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  • Apr 21, 2013, 03:35 PM
    excon
    Ed Asner
    Hello:

    Hollywood legend Ed Asner has outraged Republicans over this animated short.. I can't imagine why. Can you?

    excon
  • Apr 21, 2013, 04:02 PM
    JudyKayTee
    I can't imagine why anyone cares what Ed Asner thinks/says about anything. Well, he's getting lots of air time so maybe his career will be rejuvenated.
  • Apr 21, 2013, 04:17 PM
    tomder55
    Is that the type of propaganda the California Federation of Teachers produce to indoctrinate California students? And they used the self proclaimed commie and 1%er Ed Asner... hmmm. I wonder if the California Dept Education thinks it's appropriate to have their teachers producing videos that depict people urinating on other people. I kind of doubt they do. But they are probably powerless to do something against the all powerful CFT .
  • Apr 21, 2013, 05:19 PM
    paraclete
    Hi Ex I would like to respond but I can't open the link
  • Apr 21, 2013, 05:48 PM
    excon
    Hi clete:

    I can't help you.

    excon
  • Apr 21, 2013, 06:01 PM
    paraclete
    It's OK, Ex, I know, there is some sort of zoning that stops me accessing some internet content
  • Apr 21, 2013, 06:05 PM
    talaniman
    Volunteer-Submitted Content | MoveOn VET

    It's the same thing I have been saying for years right down to the peeing on our heads and calling it trickle down economics.
  • Apr 21, 2013, 07:12 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    It's ok, Ex, I know, there is some sort of zoning that stops me accessing some internet content

    It doesn't work for me either. I think its because they want you to log on. When I clicked the YouTube link it said it was a private video.

    Maybe ex is "up" to more then we want to know about.
  • Apr 22, 2013, 03:13 AM
    tomder55
    The links are all over the web. Look up key words... Ed Asner... moonbat... Ed Asner propaganda video

    Here is one to try...

    Ed Asner Narrates Tax The Rich Propaganda Cartoon For California Teachers Union | The Lonely Conservative

    Tal it's fine for you to make that comparison. It's quite another for a Teacher's Union to use it in a propaganda... ooops I mean "educational" cartoon for their students... narrarated by Ed Asner;a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

    We haven't even addressed the lies in the video like the 1% virtually paid virtually no taxes,even though over 70% of the tax receipts come from the top percent of taxpayers . The video claims that public schools have been defunded which is far from the truth . Public expenditures for public education has skyrocketted over the years. It's the return on the investment that should be challenged . Of course then it would demand accountability from the CFT .
  • Apr 22, 2013, 04:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    I just love it when rich Hollywood moonbats whine about rich people.
  • Apr 22, 2013, 04:58 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    the links are all over the web. look up key words ...Ed Asner ...moonbat ... Ed Asner propaganda video

    Here is one to try ...

    Ed Asner Narrates Tax The Rich Propaganda Cartoon For California Teachers Union | The Lonely Conservative

    Tal it's fine for you to make that comparison. It's quite another for a Teacher's Union to use it in a propaganda .....ooops I mean "educational" cartoon for their students...narrarated by Ed Asner;a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

    We haven't even addressed the lies in the video like the 1% virtually paid virtually no taxes,even though over 70% of the tax receipts come from the top percent of taxpayers . The video claims that public schools have been defunded which is far from the truth . Public expenditures for public education has skyrocketted over the years. It's the return on the investment that should be challenged . Of course then it would demand accountability from the CFT .

    Thanks tom but it still comes up private
  • Apr 22, 2013, 06:19 AM
    tomder55
    Take one of Tal's diatribes ;put it in a calm cartoonish narrative tone with simplistic illustrations and you get the idea. It's a 'the rich screw up everything' video.
  • Apr 22, 2013, 06:52 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    Thanks tom but it still comes up private

    Try this one. I got the same thing as you.

    Yahoo! Video Detail for Tax the Rich: An animated fairy tale
  • Apr 22, 2013, 04:42 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cdad View Post
    Try this one. I got the same thing as you.

    Yahoo! Video Detail for Tax the Rich: An animated fairy tale

    I like it but there are some who wouldn't, it cuts a little close to the bone but of course there are always those who want to shoot the messenger
  • Apr 23, 2013, 03:27 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    I like it but there are some who wouldn't, it cuts a little close to the bone but of course there are always those who want to shoot the messenger
    Agreed. Well said.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 06:30 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    I like it but there are some who wouldn't, it cuts a little close to the bone but of course there are always those who want to shoot the messenger

    If Asner weren't a rich hypocrite you might have a point.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 06:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Agreed. Well said.

    Learn from it.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 06:42 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Learn from it.

    Greedy rich guys don't care about anyone but their money. Lesson learned.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 06:48 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve

    Quote:

    If Asner weren't a rich hypocrite you might have a point.
    Here's your problem.. You think Al Gore shouldn't drive. You think Obama should VOLUNTEER to pay more taxes.. You think because Ed Asner is RICH, he shouldn't have an opinion on the poor..

    Right wingers, of course, CAN have an opinion on the poor...

    Excon
  • Apr 23, 2013, 07:59 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Greedy rich guys don't care about anyone but their money. Lesson learned.

    I bet many of those same greedy rich guys and gals have given away more money then your going to see in your lifetime. They also can afford to invest and take a loss on research and other areas that are speculation. Can you afford that?
  • Apr 23, 2013, 08:01 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve

    Here's your problem.. You think Al Gore shouldn't drive. You think Obama should VOLUNTEER to pay more taxes.. You think because Ed Asner is RICH, he shouldn't have an opinion on the poor..

    Right wingers, of course, CAN have an opinion on the poor...

    excon

    That's not it at all. Its more inline with those you have mentioned seem to want to tell us what to do and they don't do it or exempt themselves from it. That is where the hypocrisy comes from. Like how under examination you will see the GOP tends to give more money out of pocket to the needy where the dems want to give away other peoples money and covet their own.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 08:28 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve

    Here's your problem.. You think Al Gore shouldn't drive. You think Obama should VOLUNTEER to pay more taxes.. You think because Ed Asner is RICH, he shouldn't have an opinion on the poor..

    Right wingers, of course, CAN have an opinion on the poor...

    excon

    Here's your problem, you attempt to speak for me instead of me speaking for myself. I don't care if Al drives and I've already said no one should pay more taxes than they owe - it's YOU that whines about "handouts" you don't get - and I respect everyone's right to an opinion. Got it?

    The difference between me and Ed Asner and co. is if I were as rich as they are I wouldn't have the audacity to b*tch about rich people as I weren't one of them. If I were demanding everyone pay their "fair share" I would be the first to pitch mine in, and if were concerned about man-made climate change I'd do something besides get rich off it.

    As for the poor I lead by example, I don't take from you to give to them.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 08:30 AM
    talaniman
    We never mistook you for Robin Hood, rest assured. Admit it though the Sherriff of Nottingham is your hero.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 08:33 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    We never mistook you for Robin Hood, rest assured. Admit it though the Sherriff of Nottingham is your hero.

    Me thinks thee have bumped thy noggin.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 08:49 AM
    talaniman
    Forgot to duck when the right wing throws rocks.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 09:10 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Forgot to duck when the right wing throws rocks.

    Um, the rock throwers here are the ones that are the subject of this post. I realize you lefties think if only we'd just be docile and silent and know our place under your feet that all would be well, but we're just stubborn that way. I never quite learned that turn the other cheek thingy.

    As it was the Sheriff's job to keep the peasants from poaching the king's deer I would think he would be your hero.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 04:01 PM
    Tuttyd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    take one of Tal's diatribes ;put it in a calm cartoonish narrative tone with simplistic illustrations and you get the idea. It's a 'the rich screw up everything' video.


    Isn't it the ruling elites that screw up everything? The ruling elites by definition are rich. I thought you were on board with that.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 04:23 PM
    tomder55
    They aren't the ones the video accuse. Had he mentioned ,in his narrative ,the role of government in destroying the economy at least he would've been closer to the truth .
    Asner is a shill with an agenda.. But this video was just a pay day for him. I fault the teacher's union for commissioning this steaming pile of manure.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 04:29 PM
    Tuttyd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    they aren't the ones the video accuse. Had he mentioned ,in his narrative ,the role of government in destroying the economy at least he would've been closer to the truth .
    Asner is a shill with an agenda .. But this video was just a pay day for him. I fault the teacher's union for commissioning this steaming pile of manure.

    Good point. It attempts to promote the myth that there is some type of genuine choice when it comes to political allegiances.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 04:42 PM
    talaniman
    He did mention the role of government. He said the rich guys bought them to shill for them.
  • Apr 23, 2013, 05:46 PM
    paraclete
    Yes somewhat close to the truth
  • Apr 24, 2013, 06:46 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    He did mention the role of government. He said the rich guys bought them to shill for them.

    I hope you're including unions such as that which produced this piece of nonsense and pretty much hold Democrats by the gonads.
  • Apr 24, 2013, 07:13 AM
    NeedKarma
    Sure, pretty much anyone with money can but an american politician.
  • Apr 24, 2013, 08:26 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I hope you're including unions such as that which produced this piece of nonsense and pretty much hold Democrats by the gonads.

    If corporations are people too, then why can't unions be people too? And at least you can elect your union officials, but try that with a CEO. Let me know how that works for you!

    Hmmm? If I remember correctly, your boss pays you about what your union brothers make, or he couldn't keep good help.

    Just saying.
  • Apr 24, 2013, 09:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    So you're not including unions in that buying off politicians, or are you just OK with some folks buying them off?
  • Apr 24, 2013, 09:10 AM
    tomder55
    Unions were people before corporations were. No one was complaining about their political contributions and trying to control them ;and public unions are even worse . They contribute to the same people that they will eventually sit across the collective bargaining table from... a conflict of interest that borders on the criminal.
  • Apr 24, 2013, 09:19 AM
    talaniman
    Well hell, if the rich guys can have a voice, a seat at the table, and a say so about wages and working conditions why can' the little guys? That's not a conflict of interest and contributions are voluntary, and a matter of public record.

    Conflicts of interest that borders on criminal are the lobbyists, and former congressional aides and there bosses who end up working for the same companies that contributed to their election, and re-election campaigns.
  • Apr 24, 2013, 09:49 AM
    speechlesstx
    I take it that's definitely a yes, you're OK with rich union types buying off politicians. Hard to convince people to jump on your bandwagon when your complaint is that selective.

    And speaking of rich union types, Sally Jo Widmer was the head of the Aubirn Teachers Assn for more than 35 years. When she died last year former Auburn mayor Guy Cosentino praised her as “a true union leader who put her union first and personal niceties second.”

    But she certainly didn't put her checkbook second...

    Union leaders: former Auburn Teachers Association president used $800,000 in union funds for gambling, trips

    Of course what union chief wouldn't put their own wallet first?
  • Apr 24, 2013, 10:06 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    and contributions are voluntary, and a matter of public record.
    wrong ,unions contribute dues that are mandatory . The rank and file have no say where their money goes.
  • Apr 24, 2013, 10:06 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    you're OK with rich union types buying off politicians
    He didn't say that - he said that if corporations can do it then the system is set up the same way for the deep-pockets of unions.

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