It seems this year we might have reason to beware the Ides of March
;A new Pope
;NK on the prod
;new highs in the DOW
;the impact of the Sequester in the US
;fresh incidents in the Israel/ Palastinian conflict
;cannibals in New York
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It seems this year we might have reason to beware the Ides of March
;A new Pope
;NK on the prod
;new highs in the DOW
;the impact of the Sequester in the US
;fresh incidents in the Israel/ Palastinian conflict
;cannibals in New York
The last one may be the most disturbing . The guy was convicted ;not for cannibalism.. but for expressing his cannibal fantasies on the internet .
New York Cop Convicted in Cannibalism Plot - ABC NewsQuote:
Defense lawyers say everyone using the Internet should worry that their online words can end up in federal court after a jury concluded that a New York police officer's plans to kidnap, kill and eat young women he knew was more than Internet chatter.
At the end of one of the most unusual federal trials ever, a jury agreed Tuesday with the government that 28-year-old Gilberto Valle wasn't just fantasizing when he conversed online with others he had never met about killing and cooking his wife and others in a cannibalism plot.
"Yes, they should be cautioned," Valle defense lawyer Robert Baum said outside court of people everywhere. "It sets a dangerous precedent."
The larger principle at stake in the trial was that "people can be prosecuted for their thoughts," Baum said, pausing before adding: "And convicted, which is even sadder to think about."
Oh for the want of finger food . Two cannibals standing in front of a campfire, one says to the other "I hate my mother-in-law" and the other cannibal says "That's okay; just eat the rice."
I'm sorry... I love tasteless cannibal jokes.
Appaently white smoke was seen coming ftom the Sistine Chapel.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/14/wo...pope.html?_r=0
Vive Papa . I am not that familiar with Jorge Mario Bergoglio; but I did have a feeling that the next Pope was going to come from either Latin America or Africa.
I hear he's an excellent choice. He's already got TMZ's feathers ruffled...
As someone else said, apparently TMZ is surprised to hear the new Pope is Catholic.Quote:
Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio
Anti Abortion, Same-Sex Marriage
Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio has been elected the new Pope. He has chosen the papal name Pope Francis I.
Here are the facts:
-- He staunchly opposes gay marriage and abortion
-- He's from Argentina
-- He's 76 years old
-- He's the son of Italian immigrants
-- He's the first Latin-American pope... and the first from the Americas
-- He's known for his advocacy on behalf of the poor, primarily in his home country
He was appointed by JPII .That tells me he's likely conservative ;perhaps on the evangelical side.
Another good sign... my inner alarm went off when I heard he was Jesuit . That is the branch of priests that liberation theology came from. But apparently he steered clear of that .
Man of the people, reformer, evangelical, a holy man - those were the words I heard earlier
Perhaps a new beginning but putting the sinners among the priesthood on notice
A new Pope and the Higgs Boson (which should be renamed the Boson Higgs) all on the same day.
Higgs-Boson Discovery All but Confirmed at LHC | Video | Space.com
Onward, upward, into the unknown, I told you to beware the Ides of March, what catastrophy will that unleash on the world
Gives me even MORE reason to like him even though I'm a Protestant.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You never know the Pope might be too, I hear he is an evangelical
Switching to the impacts of the sequester... The White House hinted it might cancel the annual Easter Egg Roll on the White House lawn. But Jay Carney would not answer questions related to the President's lavish leasure time travels and plans.
Related to this is the fact that some libs are beginning to get it.. This is Bill Mahrer commenting on his taxes .
"“You know what? Rich people – I'm sure you'd agree with this – actually do pay the freight in this country.....” ...“I just saw these statistics,”...“I mean, something like 70 percent. And here in California, I just want to say liberals – you could actually lose me. It's outrageous what we're paying – over 50 percent. I'm willing to pay my share, but yeah, it's ridiculous.”
Ah Tom I know you love to baste BO but think about this; those job creators who you want to protect from higher tax just might be sitting on cash reserves equal to the national debt. So here is an idea I know you will like, give them an ultimatum; either spend it in leveraging the economy or loose it ah la a Cypress contribution or hair cut. Very un american I know but somertimes others suggest solutionsQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I guess we can scrap the right to property too.
No tom you still have the just compensation clause, think of my suggestion as a subsidy, a reverse subsidy, if you do something you loose nothing, I know Tom you love to subsidise the richQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
That's EXACTLY why we have a second amendment...Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Let the government here try that... and I can all but guarantee there will be an armed uprising and someone's Presidency will very likely come to a very abrupt end..
They have already done it here, but of course we have a FED, to keep us insulated. Our Fed has moved trillions and I bet you never saw a looey.
or we have Obamacare taxing the value of the sale of our home. Yes the Fed is part of the problem... Clete's suggestion is tongue in cheek (maybe )... But maybe not . The idea of taxing inactivity or non-commerce ;or a "tax " to force someone to engage in commerce was inconceivable to me before Obamacare .Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Another of those unintended consequences of liberal/progressive policies, an underground economy?
I suspect unless we shift from direction Obama is trying to take us the underground economy is going to grow.Quote:
Something fishy is going on in consumers' wallets.
Household spending has held up surprisingly well in recent months, even though new taxes have reduced paychecks and other problems are holding back the economy. Incomes haven't risen by nearly enough to explain the entire boost in spending. Nor has the use of credit cards.
When your teenager starts wearing expensive clothes and flashing bling he couldn't possibly afford through his part-time job, you start to wonder where the money is coming from. Some economists are asking the same question about consumers who seem more flush than they ought to be. The answer may lie in the large "underground" economy that doesn't show up in official statistics.
There are always some businesses and individuals operating on a cash basis to dodge taxes, evade regulations or conceal illegal activity. Economists now speculate that the underground economy may have swelled during the last few years, given all the people who can't find full-time work at decent pay.
"Severe recessions have historically driven jobless Americans into the shadow economy," writes Bernard Baumohl of the Economic Outlook Group. "We suspect the destructive nature of the last downturn and the prolonged weak recovery pushed a record number of people into that murky world of cash transactions."
You righties can't be that dumb can you? The underground economy has been alive ,well, and growing for more than half a century, and now you find out about it, and are outraged and blame the new guy for it. Or some liberal progressive conspiracy.
What will you do when you find out about the other economy the one that the rich and uber rich live in? What haven't heard? That's been going on even longer. America is haves, have not's, and will never gets, and all have been here a long time.
You really do need to get out more. We've been tying to pull your coat in these threads but you rather throw rocks and ignore facts so hope you're woke now.
Right back at you, Tal. You think trying to make the rich pay their "fair share" is going to make them more honest when it just gives incentives to avoid the system. You'd rather expand the tax rates instead of the tax base.
You keep trying to tell us that Obamacare is no obstacle to hiring and yet the evidence that it is just keeps growing. You think more regulations is the way to prosperity and yet more people are apparently willing to risk the underground economy to avoid your regulations and penalties.
Been telling you these things for a long time there, buddy. It's one of those ways you run out of other people's money to pay for your programs.
It's not outrage on my part, it's get a clue. People protect themselves FROM government overreach. Do you blame them?
Tom my suggestion wasn't so much tongue in cheek as a way of kick starting a dormant economy. You see, Tom, when the return for business activity is less than the return you can get by leaving your money in the bank there are those who think taking the risk free rate preferable to taking risk, this is fine for mum and dad savings accounts but not for leading industries. So here's a different twist on the same thing, dormant funds in corporate bank accounts be deposited with the federal reserve with interest paid at the ruling rate which right now is zero %, a risk free investment; they may as well buy bonds.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Did you notice that Cypress has modified the levy to be more targeted so those with real money take a hair cut?
To all those who speak about insurrection when a government makes a decision they are elected to make I say the second amendment was not provided for this purpose
I am proud of the people of Cyprus for calling out the government when they tried that class warfare garbage . Theft is theft ,and when a government elected by the people do it ,it's worse because that gives a bad name to democratic governance . You think the money in the bank is ill-gained ,then there are legal remedies .Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
You make it sound like it's the government's money to play with.. it's not .If the government wants businesses to invest ,then there are ways to get it done without 3rd world tin pot dictator tactics .All you are doing is a prescription for capital flight.Quote:
So here's a different twist on the same thing, dormant funds in corporate bank accounts be deposited with the federal reserve with interest paid at the ruling rate which right now is zero %, a risk free investment; they may as well buy bonds.
Yes Tom and it might fly to a country with stable government, real interest rates and industries to invest in. You don't want to use your money in the US we'll take it and make our industries hum.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
As to Cypress, yes peaceful protest is a good thing and got the government to rethink rather than letting the EU do their thinking for them. A good outcome for both sides. Who can know if money originates from criminal activity outside a nation's borders but Cypress has become a haven for Russian mafia money so who cares if they take a hair cut, it is better than losing it all in a bank collapse and this might be a model for future bailouts making investors think twice about where they put their money. However it's all academic since the plan has been rejected for the time being
Rejected yes... but now some degenerate somewhere is now rolling that idea around in their head abut how to do it and make it sound like its patriotic to get mugged and offer to bend over and spread 'em willingly.
I suspect right now the mental midgets in the Owebama administration are making such plans in their back room right now.
That's the sort of thing someone like him would pull. Probably wouldn't see a real vote either just like Obamacare.
they no doubt are making that decision now about banks in Cyprus. Doubt if the people who ran to the ATMs are likely to return any time soon.Quote:
making investors think twice about where they put their money.
As I said in another thread your leading corporations are holding sufficient cash funds to repay the national debt. No doubt this hasn't escaped the administrations attention and I could conceive they would want to give these "job creators" a Cyprus hair cut, or at least an incentive to put that money to use in internal job creation.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
What this tells me is your tax rates are too low
Yes, heaven forbid businesses - like people - protect their assets from the greedy bureaucrats in DC. What it tells me is not taxes are too low, it tells me government is too big.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I'd like to see Australia RAISE their corporate taxes to the level ours are... and see if they feel the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
In fact everyone should... ours is already the highest if not among the highest in the world.
I can hear that band playing again, the Colonel Boggie March, I think it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
It goes do dah, do dah, it's all the band could play, do dah, do dah, they played it night and day, DO Dah, DO DAH!
If you look at the effective rate not the nominal rate you will find the US effective corporate tax rate is much lower than Australia's
Report card on effective corporate tax rates - Economics - AEI
The 2009 EATR shows you at 15.9% and us at 25.9% so much for the hard done US corporation who like the rich in the US don't pay enough in effective tax
Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
You really believe those fudged numbers? How about REAL tax rates instead of fudged effective numbers...
That's just like Owebama claiming unemployment numbers are down... when the unfudged numbers prove otherwise.
Fudged numbers are subject to too much manipulation to suit someone's desired outcome.
This from the Holy Gospel of the left... the New York Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/03/bu...ates.html?_r=0
Our tax rate is 35% behind only Japan at 39.5%
smoothy haven't you ever heard of deductions? Rebates? incentives? You don't really believe the nominal rate is the actual rate paid, do you?
Haven't you ever heard of numbers being fudges by selectively leaving things out.. or inflating them to reflect your beliefs... knowing most people don't have the abilities to disprove your invented numbers? When is the last journalist or publication that had people thrown in prison for publishing false information?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
No smoothy we do not have a Department of Disinformation but obviously you do
Oh yeah ;there is no attempt to control the news in Aussie .Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
News Ltd boss attacks 'Soviet-style' media reforms - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
We have enough news services for the truth to become apparent, after all this is all any of us can hope for
Government media watchdog ? Public interest test ? Sounds like you are travelling down the road to a Department of Disinformation to me . "all the news the government deems worthy to print" .
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