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GOP presidential victory in 2016?

I think if the Republicans can convince the NM governor Susana Martinez to run, the GOP might have a chance in 2016. She is pretty and smart and clever and has an interesting ancestor and knows law enforcement and is in tune with immigration and is politically experienced and has been on both sides of the aisle and is a Latina and has thought out her very reasonable and acceptable positions according to the Wikipedia article about her.

Now, if the aged male Republicans can give way to the younger ones under 50 and also accept that there are benefits to the Internet and electronics and social media in campaigning and be energetic to put boots on the ground and find banner-wavers in thousands of neighborhoods across the U.S. like Obama's team has done, their chances improve even more.

I agree with you completely. However, this gov has a LOT of exposure to get, because I watch the National News every night, and watch Fox News Channel every morning for awhile, and I have never heard of her! I am sorry to say that, but it's the truth.
The GOP, of which I am one, had better shape up, stop bowing down to Obama, and his Democrat friends, or there will be another Dem in 2016 winninng that election. If that happens, goodby America. We now owe more than ever can be paid, and have 47 million Americans on foodstamps. What more could Obama want? He wants all to be dependent on the Fed Gov't, and he is getting his way.

Instead of muttering over what they consider all of Obama's sins and shortcomings and failures, why not get proactive and actually DO something to improve their own lot and chances for the future? The Republicans sound like a bunch of naggy and discontented fishwives! Get off your butt, you guys! And now is the time to start working toward what you consider a better future. Lots can be done now -- boots on the ground in towns and cities to educate and inform and tutor and support and retrain and help people rethink about what is important and help them recapture the societal values Repubs think have been lost.

And if Hillary runs in 2016, Susana would be the perfect counterpoint!

I have followed her for years .She's but one of the very deep bench of potential GOP hopefuls. As long as morons like Karl Rove don't try to be king makers ;and the grass roots select the nominee ,I think the GOP has a solid chance.

But let's not put the cart before the horse (or if I was continuing puns from another OP "let's not put the ala-carte before the horse ) . There are state elections to contend this year ;and the mid-term elections next.

I know you live in hope, Tom, and it seems the women are becoming the hope of the side, It might be interesting to see an all girl battle, the dynamics might change a little or maybe the claws would be out

I consider Martinez one of the top 3 or 4 potential candidates. But it is way too early to speculate . Heck if the determining factor was female ,then we would also do well with Kelly Ayotte,Nikki Haley ,Condi Rice .If it's minorities we have Bobby Jindal ,and Marco Rubio .

My favorite is still Mitch Daniels .
If clowns like Rove screw things up we might have Jeb Bush ,or Chris Christie. I completely agree that a grass roots effort is needed .

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But it is way too early to speculate.

It may be too early to speculate on candidates, but the Republicans had better get their act together very soon and move ahead with full steam, or they will lose again in 2016.

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It may be too early to speculate on candidates, but the Republicans had better get their act together very soon and move ahead with full steam, or they will lose again in 2016.

Oh dear four years of electioneering and nothing done

I will remind everyone that Obama was not considered a serious candidate until 2008 .Evita was the crowned Princess in waiting .

Oh goody, another election, so we can watch the right recite the same "values" mantra and eat each other as they run to the right, and don't dare try to sneak back to the center. Younger faces, same campaign. Same principle of uncompromise, but with each other.

Same results.

I have no current plans to speculate on 2016 until about 2015.

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I have no current plans to speculate on 2016 until about 2015.

If the rest of the Republicans wait that long too, they will already have lost the race.

Let them sweat the details. I'm sure potential candidates are already getting a lay of the land ;and putting their campaign boots on the ground. But 3 years is more than a lifetime in politics.

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If the rest of the Republicans wait that long too, they will already have lost the race.

You know as well as I do the race has already begun, but refraining from speculating doesn't necessarily equal passivity.

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You know as well as I do the race has already begun, but refraining from speculating doesn't necessarily equal passivity.

So where is the Republicans' ground game happening or their Internet/social media connections getting connected? All the mailings and calls I am getting are the same old-same old.

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So where is the Republicans' ground game happening or their Internet/social media connections getting connected? All the mailings and calls I am getting are the same old-same old.

In my case they're nowhere. This is solid red state country so they don't waste many resources trying to win us over.

Like you did last election?

Why would they spend money in an area they're a lock?

The other 49 don't matter? Gives new meaning to the term "Lone Star state."

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The other 49 don't matter? Gives new meaning to the term "Lone Star state."

Good Lord, you're impossible. When you buy groceries do you replace everything or just focus on what you need?

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Good Lord, you're impossible. When you buy groceries do you replace everything or just focus on what you need?

The Republicans will need more than Texas, and Texas can lead the way.

Smh...

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Texas is the state with strong religious concerns about family and abortion and contraception, and probably has something to say about immigration and gun control. Texas used to be a leader, so why not now, heading into the 2014 and 2016 elections?

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Texas is the state with strong religious concerns about family and abortion and contraception, and probably has something to say about immigration and gun control. Texas used to be a leader, so why not now, heading into the 2014 and 2016 elections?

Still smh...

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Still smh...

Repubs will lose again. *sigh*

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The GOP is doing a lot behind the scenes and on the ground, I was just making a point that the reason some don't see much activity is they aren't battleground territories. Chicago wasn't going to vote Romney, so why waste resources there. The Texas Panhandle wasn't going to vote Obama, so why waste resources there? About the only presidential ads I saw last year were on the news or online, no one spent money where I live it was safe GOP territory.

The best thing the GOP could do would be to end the practice of open primaries. All we get is marshmallow RHINO's with that process. Close the primaries to all but registered Republicans .

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Chicago wasn't going to vote Romney

Lots of Latinos here and legal/illegal immigrants and women and students and new voters -- no interest in changing hearts and minds?

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Lots of Latinos here and legal/illegal immigrants and women and students and new voters -- no interest in changing hearts and minds?

Still smh...

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Lots of Latinos here and legal/illegal immigrants and women and students and new voters -- no interest in changing hearts and minds?

So you think we should all take Dem positions? Changing hearts and minds means convincing them that voting for positions we believe in is in their best interests. Hard to argue though against the Dem position of "freebees " .

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so you think we should all take Dem positions? Changing hearts and minds means convincing them that voting for positions we believe in is in their best interests. Hard to argue though against the Dem position of "freebees " .

No. I'm talking about what the Republicans used to be all about -- family values and God/mom/apple pie and education improvements that actually work without spending gobs of money and team spirit building a nation together. Want more?

The 2014 House and Senate campaigns already started. The Dems are already out of the starting blocks with a strategy and ground game set. The GOP is running scared (with some exceptions) with no strategy in sight and no plan to thwart voter fraud (Obama's rhetoric masking the cheating done by the Dems ) .

They cannot expect a 2010 turnout again. Back in 2009-2010 the Tea Party and other conservative groups were on the streets in rallies and protests. They mustered one million people in rallies in Washington in August 2010. These shows of real hard working Americans made the difference in 2010 mid terms. Where did they all go in 2012? Where are they now? They were no shows at the polls because the Repubics fielded a candidate the base couldn't support.
I'm pretty sure the GOP is toast as a party ;going the way of the Whigs.

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The 2014 House and Senate campaigns already started. The Dems are already out of the starting blocks with a strategy and ground game set. The GOP is running scared (with some exceptions) with no strategy in sight and no plan to thwart voter fraud (Obama's rhetoric masking the cheating done by the Dems )

I expect no objections to those voter ID laws that were so 'hastily' put in place last year, right?

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I expect no objections to those voter ID laws that were so 'hastily' put in place last year, right?

I was thinking more along the lines of building and encouraging two-parent families that sit down to at least one meal a day and actually talk with each other, play with each other, even pray with each other. I was also thinking of working with schools to help with early education and reading and learning the basics and generally one-on-one tutoring with not only peers but also caring adults. Like, you know, reestablishing Republican values in our society instead of ranting helplessly about the evil other political party. Be proactive!

Good luck with that, I said children were better off with a mom and a dad and that was considered hate speech.

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Good luck with that, I said children were better off with a mom and a dad and that was considered hate speech.

And what happens when that's not possible?

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And what happens when thats not possible?

Asking the wrong question, I'm not going down that road to strawmanville. The right question is why doesn't the left promote what is proven to work?