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  • Feb 8, 2013, 08:53 AM
    smoothy
    California Cop on Murder Rampage.
    So when are the lefties going to be calling for Banning Police as a result of this lunatics actions? After All cop kills people... therefore we need to ban cops... like their recent foaming at the mouth fever to ban guns because some lunatic shot some kids.

    ...

    Transcript
    RAY SUAREZ: Thousands of police across Southern California, Arizona, Nevada, even in Mexico are conducting a manhunt tonight for a one-time police officer wanted in a shooting rampage.

    The suspect is Christopher Dorner, a 33-year-old former Los Angeles police officer fired in 2009. Dorner allegedly shot an officer in Corona, Calif. overnight; 20 minutes later, police said, he pulled up to a police car in nearby Riverside and opened fire on two other officers, killing one.



    Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck said today that Dorner's experience makes him much more dangerous.

    CHARLIE BECK, Los Angeles Police Chief: Of course he knows what he's doing. We trained him. He was also a member of the armed forces. It is extremely worrisome and scary, especially to the police officers involved. The Riverside officers were cowardly ambushed. They had no opportunity to fight back, no pre-warning. Imagine, imagine going about your workday having to worry about that threat.
  • Feb 8, 2013, 08:57 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    some lunatic shot some kids
    It happens with some regularity.
  • Feb 8, 2013, 11:01 AM
    tomder55
    Here is his manifesto in it's entirety (not the redacted version the compliant press released ) .
    Christopher Dorner's Manifesto, In Full [Content Graphic and Disturbing] [UPDATED]: LAist
  • Feb 8, 2013, 11:09 AM
    smoothy
    Cops going Rogue... we got to keep the guns out of the hands of cops... or are the left just being hypocrites again.

    THey really don't NEED guns anyway... England doesn't have all their cops running around armed like they are invading a foreign country.
  • Feb 8, 2013, 01:39 PM
    MikeBear
    As the old saying goes, "Guns don't kill people....people do".
    There is no amount of laws that will stop a crazy/insane person from killing someone or many... either using knives, bows, guns, or whatever.
    Politics will hinder anything, anytime, anywhere, given enough time. It's insane. I do wish both Senate and House would have to re-elect everyone at least every 6 years!
    The American people (at least over half) will buy anything, as long as Obama stands in front of a crowd and lies about it...
  • Feb 8, 2013, 03:09 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Now that the Obama rant has been said, let's get back to guns.

    Chilling news story, even more chilling because his employment (from what I read) ended 5 years ago, and he's been plotting/planning ever since.

    I have no idea what the solution is, no idea at all.

    Would I want to be in law enforcement today? No.

    And I feel the same about this news story as I do about all the others - nobody saw this coming? No family member, no friend? No one thought this guy was, at best, off to the left?
  • Feb 8, 2013, 04:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MikeBear View Post
    There is no amount of laws that will stop a crazy/insane person from killing someone or many....either using knives, bows, guns, or whatever.

    So what would you have used -- for this one and for the next one?
  • Feb 8, 2013, 04:22 PM
    excon
    Hello smoothy:

    Quote:

    therefore we need to ban cops..
    Okee doakee.

    http://tinyurl.com/b48mq4w

    I rest my case.

    Excon
  • Feb 8, 2013, 04:33 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JudyKayTee View Post
    No the same about this news story as I do about all the others - nobody saw this coming? No family member, no friend? No one thought this guy was, at best, off to the left?

    Now why do you thing he should be off to the left maybe he is off to the right, whatever, he is definitely off
  • Feb 8, 2013, 04:53 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post

    Oh so you agree, this is no different... because it's a cop with mental problems rather than a Autistic kid with mental problems.

    Since most cops have access to fully automatic weapons at their armory that Joe Civilian doesn't. Cops pose a much greater danger to the public.
  • Feb 8, 2013, 04:56 PM
    mr.yet
    What about the 71 year old woman they cops shot in the back, because the trk looked like Dormer's. They are going to shot first and ask question later.
  • Feb 8, 2013, 04:58 PM
    excon
    Hello again, smoothy:

    Quote:

    Oh THIS is different...
    Nahh, this is no different. I think ALL gangs should be destroyed.

    Excon
  • Feb 8, 2013, 05:00 PM
    JudyKayTee
    Paraclete, I meant left of center, not left politically - but that's a good point. Whichever way he's off - he's off!
  • Feb 8, 2013, 05:02 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mr.yet View Post
    What about the 71 year old woman they cops shot in the back, because the trk looked like Dommer's. They are going to shot first and ask question later.

    There was a Cop recently in Cullpepper VA that got sentences for shooting an unarmed woman to death because he was upset with her... then lied about it...

    And the SOB gets only 3 years in jail for it...

    Daniel Harmon-Wright should serve 3 years, jury recommends | WJLA.com

    If anyone else did that they would get 5 years EXTRA for using a gun in a crime... they slapped this SOB on the wrist... she is still dead... if Karma exists he will get gang raped in prison for most of those 3 years..
  • Feb 9, 2013, 01:59 AM
    paraclete
    What can I say kill the mad dog
  • Feb 9, 2013, 02:11 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    now why do you thing he should be off to the left maybe he is off to the right, whatever, he is definately off

    Read the manifesto... yeah he was off to the left big time.
  • Feb 9, 2013, 02:13 AM
    tomder55
    And yet the gun control crowd says the sheeple should rely on the police force for their safety .
  • Feb 9, 2013, 05:23 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    According to Hannity, the guy is a committed liberal, and THAT'S why he's a killer.
    Quote:

    It turns out that the gunman, Christopher Jordan Dorner, is a vocal supporter of President Obama, Hillary Clinton, Diane Feinstein and other top Democrats. Oddly enough, he vehemently opposes the NRA and viciously attacked that organization's CEO in his letter.
    Oddly enough, Hannity left out Dorner's support for Republican Chris Christie (“You're America's no s*** taking uncle. … Your leadership is greatly needed.”), how Dorner said that the only presidential candidate he supported in 2012 was Republican Jon Huntsman, and how George H.W. Bush was “always one of my favorite presidents.”

    Or, maybe it's not so odd.

    Excon
  • Feb 9, 2013, 05:40 AM
    tomder55
    I'm not one who is enamored with Christe .But he's about as conservative as we get here in the North East. Bottom line on him is that he is a big government Republic .

    Dorner's manifesto is rambling at best and poor justification for his murders .
  • Feb 9, 2013, 09:39 AM
    talaniman
    Here we go arguing politics instead of actions. Who cares who a loony bird mad dog voted for, or who he worked for? I don't!

    Hunt him and put him down like the dog he is. Then we can get back to the politics nonsense. Hell at the rate we are going with the fools coming out of the woodwork, maybe we should test newborns and keep a close eye on everybody at birth.

    Just sayin'
  • Feb 9, 2013, 09:50 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Dorner's manifesto is rambling at best and poor justification for his murders .

    I'm with him, though, on Dave Brubeck's "Take Five"!!
  • Feb 9, 2013, 06:42 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Oh so you agree, this is no different...because its a cop with mental problems rather than a Autistic kid with mental problems.

    Since most cops have access to fully automatic weapons at their armory that Joe Civilian doesn't. Cops pose a much greater danger to the public.

    Police Shoot Newspaper Delivery Women Mistaken For Christopher Dorner During Manhunt [UPDATED]: LAist
  • Feb 9, 2013, 09:31 PM
    smoothy
    Exactly... the cops wouldn't go after someone where killed mere average citizens with the gusto they go after someone who kill one of their private club.

    Yes... I know the kind of crooked behavior so many cops are guilty of (and yes there are good ones but one bad one can make up for 10 good ones).

    Over 90 Washington DC police have been arrested for criminal behavior in recent years... I was a target of some of some crooked cops myself when I was in Maryland... and it helps that I actually had a few cops over the years I could call a personal friend.. one was an ex California State Cop from LA... heard about the raids they pulled without announcing they were police before kicking the doors down... and then charging people for pulling legal weapons out for what they believed was a home invasion. Yeah... that was common... that's why he quit and moved to the east coast. But three are lots of crooked cops here too... I grew up just up the street from one that was notorious in the area... and I lived near another... who apparently screwed with the wrong person who put a brick through his car window one afternoon... (nope, I thought about it but I was 30 miles away at work when it happened).
  • Feb 14, 2013, 08:10 AM
    speechlesstx
    Seems they got the guy, and apparently not only are the police are the bad guys but this liberal wacko that killed 4 people is a hero. I won't go into his Twitter admiration, just one commentator, Marc Lamont HIll on CNN...

    Quote:

    “There’s no waste here, though. I mean, this has been an important public conversation that we’ve had about police brutality, about police corruption, about state violence. I mean, there were even talks about making him the first domestic drone target. I mean, this is serious business here. I don’t think it’s been a waste of time at all.

    And, as far as Dorner himself goes, he’s been like a real-life superhero to many people. Now, don’t get me wrong, what he did was awful, killing innocent people is bad. But when you read his manifesto, you read the message that he left, he wasn’t entirely crazy. He had a plan and a mission, here. And, many people aren’t rooting for him to kill innocent people; they’re rooting for someone who was wronged to get a kind of revenge against the system. It’s almost like watching ‘Django Unchained’ in real life. It’s kind of exciting.”
    Apparently not only do libs celebrate their perverts they still celebrate their domestic terrorists. I can't help but think if Dorner lived he would someday be a college professor.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 08:17 AM
    talaniman
    Stop listening to our loonies, and taking them seriously, we don't.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 08:21 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    I can't help but think if Dorner lived he would someday be a college professor.
    Or the next Mumia .
  • Feb 14, 2013, 08:22 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Stop listening to our loonies, and taking them seriously, we don't.

    Oh no? It's been all over Huffpo, Daily Beast and now CNN... someone is clearly listening and it ain't us.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 08:23 AM
    smoothy
    And his manifesto was prasing the most liberal of the left winger loons in the drive by media...

    Yep, this guy Dorner is another Lefty that went off the reservation.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 09:33 AM
    speechlesstx
    More on the Dorner fan club...

    Will Anonymous Retaliate for Christopher Dorner's Probable Death?


    Quote:

    Alternet: How Do We Interpret Christopher Dorner?

    Christopher Dorner was a "bad man" in the literal sense: he killed, and was the target of a massive manhunt, and one who went out, quite literally, in a blaze of gunfire and violence.

    In the literary sense, Dorner is not a badman... yet. But, that is the power of cultural memory.

    Perhaps, Christopher Dorner will be transformed through popular culture and storytelling into a figure talked about for decades and centuries to come, with multiple versions of his tales and exploits, shaped by the griots and bards for their respective audiences?

    While Dorner has many attributes that locate him firmly within Black (American) folklore, popular culture, and memory, I would argue that he is most accurately described as an Age of Obama version of The Spook Who Sat By the Door.

    Penned by Sam Greenlee, The Spook Who Sat by the Door is an underground book (and then film) classic. The story focused on the exploits of Dan Freeman an African-American CIA agent who in an epiphanic moment came to realize that he was working for a corrupt and racist government. The main character then goes rogue, just as Dorner has done, and organizes a cadre of Black Nationalist freedom fighters to "take down the man." The Spook Who Sat by the Door was later remade as a film during the blaxploitation film cycle of the 1970s.
    In my book murdering innocent people disqualifies you from folk hero status, literary or otherwise.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 10:33 AM
    smoothy
    If Barrak Obama had a son... he'd look like Christopher Dorner... Trayvon Martin was a two bit thug...
  • Feb 14, 2013, 10:37 AM
    NeedKarma
    Man, if only liberals were eliminated there would be no crime.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 10:50 AM
    smoothy
    Most of this killings ARE committed by liberals... the records prove it.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 10:59 AM
    NeedKarma
    Ok, let's see the records.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 11:04 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Ok, let's see the records.

    Google them up yourself.. they are easily accessible. Then you can't accuse me of cherry picking.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 11:11 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    man, if only liberals were eliminated there would be no crime.

    As usual the point goes right over your head and leads straight to ridiculousness.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 11:29 AM
    NeedKarma
    Well ridiculousness is the point of these threads, no?
  • Feb 14, 2013, 11:30 AM
    Wondergirl
    I'm still chewing on what smoothy's definition of liberal could be.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 11:42 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    I'm still chewing on what smoothy's definition of liberal could be.
    google it!!!!!!!! :)
  • Feb 14, 2013, 11:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    I don't know, but if he means most domestic terrorist incidents are committed by left-wingers that would be correct.
  • Feb 14, 2013, 11:46 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    google it!!!!!!!! :)

    Is smoothy's definition Googleable?

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