Hello wingers:
The problem you have is you are either TOO liberal, or you're TOO conservative. Which direction are you going to go?
excon
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Hello wingers:
The problem you have is you are either TOO liberal, or you're TOO conservative. Which direction are you going to go?
excon
Lets hope all you liberals loose your jobs when the businesses start cutting back or doing away with full time work and going with part time to avoid the Obamacare fiasco...
You wanted it you got it... I hope every one of you chokes on it...
Expect the unemployment numbers to go even higher... expect the cost of fuel and food to go even higher... expect your quality of life to go down... expect the country to start looking more like Kenya every day...
That's what you all wanted... 16 Trillion in debt thanks to Obama expect that number to continue to skyrocket...
Hello smoothy:
So, I'll put you down in the not conservative enough camp.
excon
smoothy's funny in his over-the-top hyperbole fanaticism. LOL
As opposed to your over the top hyperbole left wing fanaticism? At least Mine is based in fact...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
NOTHING has improved the last 4 years... and nothing will the next four either... Its been all down hill and the slope has just gotten even steeper...
THe belief and expectation you can get something for nothing if you expect a minority of the people to pay the bill has never worked... and never will work.
The lowest common denominator is determined to drag EVERYTHING down to their level... because anyone with brains and the ability will shift most of their assets where they can't be touched... and yes there are lots of ways to do it... then see how the leeches pay for their free ride then.
It's like free entertainment. :D
Hello again, smoothy:
If ANYTHING you said were true, I'd agree whole heartedly. Let's just take this graph. It's not really up to date, but even YOU can see the improvement..Quote:
NOTHING has improved the last 4 years...
Or maybe not...
Excon
That chart would only have relevance if Bush started his term in 2008.
Can you explain?Quote:
that chart would only have relevance if Bush started his term in 2008.
Personally, I hope they hold Obama's feet to the fire but they won't and we'll be screwed. Now if the Senate can actually do something, like pass a budget...
Hello again, tom:
The relevance to ME, is that when Obama took office, the country was LOSING jobs on a massive scale. It shows further that Obama TURNED it around. I cannot imagine any other interpretation.
But, you guys have ANSWERED my question.. You're NOT conservative ENOUGH. But, here's a secret... There aren't enough of you white right wingers any more. You're toast. Now, you can huddle together in a corner and snivel about your country turning brown. And, you can make yourselves irrelevant like the Whigs...
excon
Cheap shot ,Why are you obsessed with race ?
Hello again, Steve:
It's NOT an obsession. It's an observation.. In fact, I believe it was campaign strategy. Now, I suppose, during the primary, Romney could have argued about a SHORTER fence, but he didn't. He COULD have been INCLUSIVE, but he would never have been nominated... You saw how governor good hair fared..Quote:
Why are you obsessed with race ?
So, I think Romney CHOSE to throw brown people overboard, and HOPE white people would be enough to push him over the top.
Why do you think that the mere MENTION of race is playing some sort of race card? You don't think, do you, that campaigns NEVER consider RACE in their strategy??
Really??
Excon
Here's the thing ex, you guys can keep trying to paint us as things you know we're not, but I'm not going to abandon my principles and I have no plans to roll over and take it in the backside while my rights get destroyed.
I've said it twice now, the trend is already there and I promise my company will follow suit and either make us part time or drop health insurance. But this is what you want now, you want everyone to have equal health care even if it's worse health care. I will not be silent about that.
I refuse to watch our first amendment be destroyed without a fight so women can have birth control pills.
I refuse to watch energy costs "necessarily skyrocket" without a fight so environmentalists can soothe their conscience. I actually care that people are able to afford gas for their car, heat in the winter and AC in the summer.
You guys say you're for helping others but government policies just drag people down instead of lifting them up. My best friend feeds the homeless every Sunday night and has been for years but now he's being hounded because he doesn't have a "certified kitchen."
Likewise, the church in its various forms does that very thing for millions of hungry, homeless, orphaned, abused, sick and suffering people every day, but if the contraception mandate holds they'll be FORCED to discriminate on who they can help. The rest will be on YOUR shoulders. Got to stick to those damn regulations you know. Got to have birth control pills you know.
Let me ask you this, how does a birth control pill fill someone's stomach? You guys feign empathy for others while we've been in the trenches taking care of those you pretend to care for. Now you want to tie our hands?
I'm not going to snivel about our country turning brown or any such nonsense because you KNOW I live in a brown neighborhood. But I will snivel about liberals wanting government to do what they should be doing themselves while pretending to care.
Steve
I'm not tom. If you were observant you'd see that is blacks who refused to vote for the white guy and not the other way around.Quote:
It's NOT an obsession. It's an observation..
Hello again, Steve/tom:
Oh, I noticed, and I don't disagree.Quote:
If you were observant you'd see that is blacks who refused to vote for the white guy and not the other way around.
But, if YOU were a black fellow, and you looked around at ALL the voter suppression efforts the Republicans perpetrated AGAINST you, would YOU vote for whitey?
Excon
I don't vote based on conspiracy theories or race so you take it from there.
Answer to you opening question.
The Repubics ran moderates in the last 2 cycles against a radical lefty ;and fell short both times. I think the Republics should go truer to their base .
Hello again, tom:
Yeah... More Mourdocks, Aikens, Angles, Palins, Ryans, and a few O'Donnels thrown in, to name a VERY few...
I HOPE you do go right.
excon
More Rubios, more Ryans, more Cruz's.
More Suzanna Martinez , more Scott Walker ,more Kelly Ayotte ,more Bobby Jindal .
Hello again, tom:
What's VERY funny here, is that you think trotting out a few women, a Hispanic or two, and an Indian guy, CONSTITUTES diversity...
What you DON'T get is that you have to EMBRACE the people. Talking about electrifying the fence isn't how you do that.
excon
Truth is I don't give a damn about their gender or ethnicity . You are the one obscessed with those issues. I mentioned them because their proven leadership and competence.
Yeah, right. Coming from the side of the aisle that tells the nation's first female combat pilot to get back in the kitchen. I LOVE how the left EMBRACES diversity:
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I just see people, you guys are the only ones making it about race and gender and then you discredit and/or slander any conservative that isn't white. I think you ought to be ashamed for spreading divisiveness under the guise of diversity.
It wasn't divisive when all the minorities ran away from the GOP. It was self preservation. The white guy lost because he ignored everybody but the rich white guys. He didn't talk to them (minorities), or listen. Just like conservatives don't talk or listen to any one BUT YOURSELVES!
You got what you paid for. Now forget the supply side, trickle down stuff.
Admittedly the GOP has fumbled connecting with minorities, but you got to admit that's much harder to do when your side, with media complicity, has spent the last 6 years calling us racists for no reason other than to divide and play on their fears.
But you be sure and let us know how it's working for you when your "top down" approach leads to economic ruin. The rich you hate will still be rich you know... led by Mr. 1 percent himself.
It wasn't our side talking about the 47%, self deportation or nixing the dream act, you guys did that in public and on tape. You only have yourselves to blame. Take responsibility for your actions and do better... after a mourning period for your BS of course.
You called us racists in public, on tape in print, on Youtube, TV, in the news, on Twitter... and it was totally irresponsible and inexcusable.
I hear there is going to be some public and private blood letting over there. Personally I think it is time for generational change as well as some ideological change
But true because they actually had videos of you guys disparaging all the OTHER people. I mean damn, hard to believe a guy who has said what they would do to you. So they ran!Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You see how dumb you guys sound by saying it's the media and not yourselves.
Who would want to live in DC anyway, one of the drawbacks of the job. Some previous Presidents escaped for long periods
Hello again,
It's ARITHMETIC, stupid...
The REASON the Dems won is because they can COUNT.. They could add up the Hispanics.. They could add up the woman.. They could add up everybody who DIDN'T hate Obama. When they totaled up their list, they had enough.
You'd think that a Republican, who was going to SAVE the economy, could count.. Turns out, he can't..
Wheeewee. We just dodged a bullet.
Now, I understand you wingers are going to make it even EASIER to win next time, because you're going to run somebody like John Kasich next time, and you'll get SMASHED again.
We talked several times about you guys shooting yourselves in the foot. Now, you're going to double down and use a shotgun to shoot yourselves. You should know your party is in trouble when somebody asks you how the rape guy did, and you have to ask, which one.
excon
Yep, the Dow lost 313 points they were so happy Obama won. I can count.Quote:
We just dodged a bullet.
Hello again,
Yes, I have more to say.. How do you spell mandate?? Here's how I do...
There were 10 SWING states that were up for grabs.. Obama ran the table on 9 of 'em. He's the first president since FDR to get 50% of the popular vote.
Do the Republicans think they won? They do, don't they? Silly Republicans..
excon
The miscalculation was 2 fold:
1. The Repubics underestimated the Dem turnout
2. The base of the Repubics were NOT enthusiastic about the Romney candidacy because he is a wishy-washy center-right .
Bush got 50.73% in 2004.
The other Bush got 53.37% in 1988
Reagan got 58.77% in 1984
Reagan got 50.75% in 1980
Even Carter got 50.08% in 1976
Nixon got 60.67% in 1972
LBJ got 61.05% in 1964
Ike got 57.37% in 1956
Ike got 55.18% in 1952
I can count. Not impressed by 50.4 by Mr. Hopenchange.
The dow has many factors that determine whether it goes upor down but when its down then its people selling not buying. Rich guys make money and they needed money to recoup their losses from those super pacs against Obama!!Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
They lost BILLIONS!!
http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-11-07/markets/34960698_1_fiscal-cliff-coal-stocks-presidential-election
There you go assuming Obama is making the sky fall again!Quote:
An analysis of the market’s reaction to all presidential elections since 1900 found the Dow’s day-after reaction to be an unreliable if not misleading indicator about the market’s direction for the next four years. Read: Interpreting the market’s day-after reaction.
So you'd want your candidate to be *further* right? That would be an interesting election cycle for sure.Quote:
2. The base of the Repubics were NOT enthusiastic about the Romney candidacy because he is a wishy-washy center-right .
The right continues to believe that this is a center right country. Its not. That assumption was why they lost!
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