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Philadelphia student says teacher mocked her for wearing Romney shirt - Philly.com
Guess it is only OK, if it is the Democratic view point talked about in schools.
I guess by controlling the teachers union you teach the kids only what you want them to know, so they will be your future voting block.
Makes me glad that we don't do public schools.
Yes, your entire school system sucks. We're happy with ours. Good luck.
Hello Padre:
I can't speak for that teacher, but she doesn't represent a liberal viewpoint. A true liberal invites ALL views.
excon
One teacher can't represent all teachers. There are loonies on both sides.
In order to have a fair and balanced education system, you need to have an education system, not a work place ruled by teachers
This is an insane situation and that teacher should have been removed right away pending further review.
So we should let the kids run the class room?Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Agreed!!Quote:
Originally Posted by califdadof3
Tal why would my comment elicit a ridiculous comment from you. No, the kids don't run the classrooms, that is the problem now, they know too much about their rights and not enough about anything else. The system needs to go back to teaching useful stuff equiping kids for the work force. What you have now is a workplace ruled by teachers, but this doesn't benefit the kids. Teachers need to be held accountable, fired if needs be, and certainly not allowed to display ridiculous or political attitudes
Yeah right.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
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Liberals Admit to Discriminating Against Conservative Academicians
Ronald Bailey|Oct. 3, 2012 9:46 am
When social psychologist Jonathan Haidt famously polled his fellow academics for their political leanings at the 2011 convention of the Society for Personality and Social Psychology, only 3 hands out of a thousand were raised in response to his query about conservative leanings. Just three. As the New York Times reported:
“This is a statistically impossible lack of diversity," Dr. Haidt concluded.... "Anywhere in the world that social psychologists see women or minorities underrepresented by a factor of two or three, our minds jump to discrimination as the explanation,” said Dr. Haidt, who called himself a longtime liberal turned centrist. “But when we find out that conservatives are underrepresented among us by a factor of more than 100, suddenly everyone finds it quite easy to generate alternate explanations.”
Harvard University psychologist Daniel Gilbert very open-mindedly generated one such alternate explanation for the paucity of conservative social psychologists:
[L]iberals may be more interested in new ideas, more willing to work for peanuts, or just more intelligent, all of which may push them to pursue the academic life while deterring their conservative peers.
Well, yes that is one possibility. However, a new study, "Political Diversity in Social and Personality Psychology," by Dutch psychologists finds that overt discrimination against conservatives [PDF] likely plays a role. The researchers surveyed several hundred social psychologists, most of them American, and found that 6 percent identified as "overall conservative" - certainly better than 3 in a 1,000 but nowhere near being representative of the larger population. The researchers then ask:
Why, then, did Haidt have such difficulty finding more than a handful of conservative colleagues? The current results suggest one answer: Members of the conservative minority are reluctant to express their political beliefs publicly. Survey 2 shows why: Hostility toward and willingness to discriminate against conservatives is widespread. One in six respondents said that she or he would be somewhat (or more) inclined to discriminate against conservatives in inviting them for symposia or reviewing their work. One in four would discriminate in reviewing their grant applications. More than one in three would discriminate against them when making hiring decisions. Thus, willingness to discriminate is not limited to small decisions. In fact, it is strongest when it comes to the most important decisions, such as grant applications and hiring.Conservatives stay quiet (or stay out of academic psychology altogether) because they don't want the thundering herd of independent minds to stampede their careers into the dust.
This hostile climate offers a simple explanation of why conservatives hide their political opinions from colleagues. Given that all academics depend on the opinions of their colleagues—who judge their papers, grants, and job applications—and given that such judgments are typically made by multiple reviewers (most of whom are liberal), this means that outspoken conservatives face a very serious problem. Hence, the more conservative respondents are, the more they hide their political opinions.
Ah yes, the persecution complex again.
Hello again, Steve:
You guys don't know what liberal means, so it's not surprising that others don't either... I stand by my answer... A TRUE liberal is open to ALL viewpoints... Plus, we're extremely good dancers.
excon
Ex made a claim, I countered with research. That's not a persecution complex, it's a facts-based response. Try and keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Dear excon:Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
All librarians in the world are true liberals, even the ones constrained by community voices to the contrary.
With great feeling,
WG
In the US do students go around screaming out their political affiliations? Because I have no idea what was political affiliation of any of my university friends.
Yep, here's some amazing liberal dancers.
The kid wore a T-shirt. Try and keep up.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
That's one kid. Easy with the condescending comments please.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
LOL, getting under your skin?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
So who's screaming?
Hello again, Steve:
Since you're painting with a broad brush, I suppose I could say ALL conservatives are science deniers like the two congressmen serving on the congressional science committee.
But, I wouldn't do that, because it would be STUPID.
excon
You painted the broad brush, true libs are "open to ALL viewpoints" (not so much according to the research) and "extremely good dancers." Maybe it's just the vagina costumes.
That would explain why conservatives cannot make any changes to the educational system, it's because their distrust of science and anything that's under Liberal Arts means that very few of them attend higher education. I guess when you believe that all you need to know comes from the bible and your priest then that's the results you get. Of course it doesn't stop from whining about persecution in the school system.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:
Try as you might to equate US with the underhanded and misguided techniques your side employs, just ain't going to work.. We're better people than conservatives are, and that's just so.
excon
PS> (edited) As an example, on the other site I work on, in response to a question about the twin towers, one respondent said, "kill all muslims".
Liberals don't say sh1t like that. Now, I'm sure you're going to fire up your Google and find one who does, but it won't change what is.
Talk about painting with a broad brush and moving the goalpost. Prove it. Any of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Yeah, referencing actual research showing libs intentionally discriminate against conservatives is certainly underhanded.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
And so if both sides have a few wackos (or just people who like to instigate on the internet), what's your point? Kind of hard to admit I'll find a few wackos on your side while saying libs are better people because of one idiot's remark.Quote:
PS> (edited) As an example, on the other site I work on, in response to a question about the twin towers, one respondent said, "kill all muslims".
Liberals don't say sh1t like that. Now, I'm sure you're going to fire up your Google and find one who does, but it won't change what is.
Stacey Dash found out how tolerant libs are when she tweeted her support Romney...Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Yep, all viewpoints welcome... especially if you're black.Quote:
Clueless” star Stacey Dash recently tweeted her support for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, accompanied by a patriotic swimsuit picture of herself.
But now her political viewpoint has become the subject of online attacks, with many expressing crude distaste that she isn’t endorsing President Obama – and race has become a key motivator behind the digital abuse.
“You’re an unemployed black woman endorsing Mitt Romney. You’re voting against yourself thrice. You poor beautiful idiot,” one Twitter user wrote, while @Black Voice wrote, “Stacey Dash had a perm since birth. I knew I couldn’t trust her.. lol.”
Others accused the actress of “voting for white supremacy,” claiming she “is white with a dark tan,” and calling Dash a slew of offensive names.
Several other Obama supporters even went as far as to encourage “the old hag” to “kill herself.” One suicide encourager is listed as a doctor and politically active Democrat in Washington D.C., and although he reportedly has deleted the inflammatory “kill yourself” tweet, it was captured by social media news site, Twitchy.com.
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I think I said something about you rummaging around till you found a lib who you could throw in my face... You did good.
excon
No need to rummage, just current events.
It's because teacher's unions and school boards are afraid to compete with the private sector and don't want any dollars funneled from their failing schools toward something that works.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
These kids are escaping schools graded as a C or worse, from families with a household income less than 250% of the federal poverty line, but we can't have that can we? Better that students fail together than actually go to school and get an education.Quote:
Gov. Bobby Jindal's voucher program that uses tax dollars to send students to private schools was ruled unconstitutional Friday by a state judge who said it's improperly funded through the public school financing formula.
Judge Tim Kelley sided with arguments presented by teacher unions and school boards seeking to shut down the voucher program and other changes that would funnel more money away from traditional public schools.
More than 4,900 students are enrolled in 117 private schools with taxpayer dollars, in one of the largest voucher programs in the nation.
The judge said the method the Jindal administration, state education leaders and lawmakers used to pay for the voucher program violates state constitutional provisions governing the annual education funding formula, called the Minimum Foundation Program or MFP.
"The MFP was set up for students attending public elementary and secondary schools and was never meant to be diverted to private educational providers," Kelley wrote in a 39-page ruling.
Schools shouldn't compete like a business. And that's exactly what the for profit charter schools (some of them any way, and their effectiveness is still unclear) have become using students as a means to make money.
Kids are not a commodity.
I totally agree with you...Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
It's interesting to hear excon state that a true liberal listens to all points of view. Interesting given that on another thread I shared my conservative leaning (but still quite moderate) view on your political question about the great political divide of the country, and you derisively dismissed my comments as, I believe you called it, conservative "claptrap".
As a moderate conservative, I actively seek out all points of view and seriously try to consider their merit with an open and willing intention to change my mind if I should. Among the many liberals I know, none can even listen to an alternative point of view without wanting to change the subject or getting angry or calling names in response.
I left the democratic party because I found it so narrow and closed-minded.
Your Federal government doesn't fund 'private' schools??Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Tut
The world is vast place Tut and our ideas have yet to take on, like democracy it takes time
Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Yes, I guess you are right. It is obvious that no one is interested in any Aussie ideas.
Tut
Trouble is, Tut, we have given so much, the world just has to catch up, Trade Unions, Women's Suffrage, Secret Ballots, Compulsory Voting, Compulsory Education, the stump jump plow, wifi, to name a few, it's just too much for some
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ian_inventions
In our system there is no place for federal funding of school systems ,private or public. That the Federal Government has interposed itself into that doesn't make it constitutional .
These schools are not "for profit" entities so that's a straw man. They are only in existence to educate and they do it well. You're just afraid public schools CAN'T compete with private schools to continue their liberal indoctrination.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
If anyone is treating kids as commodities it's the public schools, fighting for every tax dollar they can get to continue the status quo with entrenched union teachers that you can't fire no matter how bad they are. We saw on it display in the Wisconsin when teachers were more concerned with grabbing fraudulent doctor's notes so they could protest while calling the governor Hitler than teaching the kids. But they did it for the kids, right? Bwa ha ha!
As always strings come attached to federal dollars. Why would they want to be constrained by the feds?Quote:
Originally Posted by TUT317
Hello again, Don't:
I appreciated your post. But, after all the flowery talk about being a "moderate" it WAS the same right wing claptrap I hear from the OTHER conservatives here, who DON'T flower up their posts...Quote:
and you derisively dismissed my comments as, I believe you called it, conservative "claptrap".
I meant NO disrespect. I'm sure you're a wonderful fellow, and I'll NEVER insult YOU. But, your views are fair game. I INVITE your participation... The other wingers here need all the help they can get.
Excon
PS> (edited) By the way, I've been arguing politics with these guys for YEARS, and I AM quite fond of them.
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