Hello:
Vote as many times as you wish.. You vote will be made public.
excon
PS> (edited) What I MEANT was that you may vote for as many SELECTIONS as you wish. You can't vote multiple times... That would be like dead people voting...
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Hello:
Vote as many times as you wish.. You vote will be made public.
excon
PS> (edited) What I MEANT was that you may vote for as many SELECTIONS as you wish. You can't vote multiple times... That would be like dead people voting...
Option 5... too close to call
http://news.yahoo.com/obama-leads-ex...-politics.htmlQuote:
The contest between them, regardless, is far closer than those prognostications would suggest. Registered voters in this survey, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates, divide by 49-44 percent between Obama and Romney, with the race a virtual tie, 49-47 percent, among those most likely to vote.
You don't have the picture Tom
OK show me the picture? All the polls show within the margin of error ;and the elections are still 6 weeks away . Their 1st of 3 head to head debates is this week ;and the President's foreign policies ;as well as his poor economic performance are now in play. His Clinton bounce from the convention... (paraphrase... "it's ok to vote for Obama because no one could've done better (except me )" ) is just about spent .
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Yes, there's a margin there.. But, every single poll shows Romney LOSING. What he has to do, is convince SOME of the NOW decided voters to SWITCH their votes. That ain't going to be easy. I believe he only has ONE debate to get it done. People are already voting. He can't just do OK.. He has to annihilate the president.. Maybe he can. We'll see.
excon
... which is another crazy practice we should cease. Election day is constitutionally mandated . It should be enforced except in the case of legitimate absentee balloting . Nov. 6, roughly a third of voters will have already cast their ballots. What good is an October surprise if a third of the ballots have already been cast ? Events can and do transpire up until election day... some of them potentially game changing .Quote:
People are already voting
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
As long as we keep the antiquated way we vote, we NEED to do early voting, because we'll be overwhelmed at the polling places... There IS a way we can avoid all that state stuff.. In fact, allowing the states to do it calls for mischief.
We DO seem to be able to handle highly secure transactions online from the privacy of our homes... Seems to me, if we trust online banking, we could trust online voting...
excon
Except when the Chinese hack into the network responsible for the nuclear football everything's fine. By the way, the polls are tightening with independents moving toward Romney.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Election Forecasts - FiveThirtyEight Blog - NYTimes.com
Nate is the man I trust.
A revolutionary idea Ex on a par with voting machines but why can't you provide more polling places? Surely it isn't difficult to divdide the population by the number of people who can reasonably vote in any polling place and provide enough places. If you were going to vote on line you would definitely have to have voter ID. Online voting might mean more people vote, perish the thought, actually finding the will of the peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by excon
Obama is nothing but a joke! People need to open there eyes this f-in country needs to be run like a business were 16 trillion dollars in debt and keep borrowing money that we don't even have, It is so easy to get food stamps now its crazy I swear every time I go to the store the person in front of me has an EBT card like come on get of your lazy a$$ and get a f-in job ohh wait Obama has not created nothing but minimum wage jobs that can't support everyone! AND OHH WE Didn't BUILD SHEIT!
Wonderful rave there. I can agree with part of it the country needs to be run like a business. If you did that you would declare bankruptcy. The question is who creates the jobs, government or business. Business! Those lousey money grubbing business men who sold the country up the creek to China. You want to blame Obama, because you need someone to blame, but seriously he inherited the problem and there is a whole world out there suffering because of those money grubbing businessmen like Romney who love asset stripping and creating unemployment while ripping off people with worthless securities.
There is a way to bring back the jobs, raise tariff barriers and insist on local content, you can do part of this yourself, don't buy foreign made, stay out of Walmart.
Maybe Obama isn't able to do it, but you can bet big tax cuts to business won't do it either, because it isn't about tax, it's about confidence. Tax only works when there is something to tax. You need to send all those illegals home so there are more jobs available even if they are low paid, get the people off the dole queues. Just because you have money doesn't mean others do. 14 million without jobs and you recon they are all lazy. Get a life!
Rasmussen... Silver used to defend Scott Rasmussen until his bosses at the NY Slimes gave him his marching orders . But just as lib media is critical of Rasmussen ;conservatives are equally critical of polling organizations the libs like.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
You wonder why I generally ignore the polls ? The only time you can trust them is the last week when their reputation for getting it accurate is in play ;then after elections ,they quibble over a couple percentage points one way or the other .
The only time you think they are accurate is when they favour Romney
Heh, people actually believe Obama is a communist, such is the ignorance of americans about politics.
I just voted for all the options in the poll.
Then you haven't been paying attention. I am generally critical of ALL polls .Polls get skewed to favor a preconceived result. They are easily manipulated with the questions asked and the methodology used. When the results matter ,they clean up their act to a degree.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
If I had access to internal polling I'd have a better idea of how the race is going .
I have no problem with on-line voting... ironically the issue of voter id becomes critical in that case... going to the polls ? Not so much I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Hello tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I suppose the polls CAN be stacked... But, speaking as a businessman, it's suicide to DO that. I thought right wingers UNDERSTOOD business... No, huh?
Look. If I were in the polling business, the only thing I have to SELL is an ACCURATE poll. If my polls are flawed, nobody would buy them. Elliot would understand what I'm saying..
excon
Well thank goodness we have Biden on the job, admitting that the working class has been "buried the last four years."
I noticed on other sites how this is the conservative talking point of the day. Well done!Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Biden is telling the truth of course. What's the reason for the outrage this time?
Outrage? What outrage? We're proud of Biden for telling the truth, 4 years of Obama and the middle class IS buried. Tell it like it is Joe!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
P.S. Very amusing how the guy who fell for and jumped on the discredited Romney airplane window story is mocking others for taking off with an actual Biden gaffe. Well done!
So you're saying the Obama administration enacted all the plans they wanted to enact?
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Couple things...
First off, you BLAST the administration for covering up stuff. Now, you're blasting them for admitting stuff. What's with that? But, it's not SURPRISING stuff. It's not stuff we DIDN'T know.. It's not that he revealed a SECRET. He told us stuff we already KNOW. In fact, I have a feeling that your OWN candidates are saying the same thing...
Next. It appears that you can't remember past 4 years ago... I don't know WHY. But, that's why I'M here. Let me remind you again... George W. Bush BROKE the economy SO badly, that NOBODY, could have fixed it in 4 years - NOBODY. You guys think this is just one of those run of the mill downturns that ANY president worth his salt, could have gotten us out of in very short order...
But, it wasn't.. It was the WORST downturn since the Great Depression... It does NOT surprise me that the middle class are STILL buried. The only people who are surprised about it, are people who have NO understanding of how the economy works.
excon
Thank goodness no, the middle class would be even worse off - but he had 2 years to pass anything he wanted.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I blast the administration for coverups, lies and blatant deception, should I praise them instead?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Two years was enough to fix all that? See excon's post.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Yes indeed... that is why the final poll is the important one .Their credibility is in the final results.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
But when there is an agenda behind the poll ,then that IS what the pollster is being paid to provide. That is why I mentioned the internal polling . The candidates need their own information ;not what these published polls provide. If they could believe the external polls then they would not need their own independent polling .
Man, Romney KILLED last night. Mittens made mincemeat of the messiah. I don't agree with Bill Maher much but he was right on this...
Obama got schooled and it showed.Quote:
Obama made a lot of great points tonight. Unfortunately, most of them were for Romney -- Bill Maher
Mitt was aggressive, but he didn't get specific about anything, and I can't wait for the sound bites to be aired. Obama let him lie as much as he wanted to!
Hello again,
I think he was stoned... Will it change the outcome?? I don't know.. Hispanics still hate Romney. Women too.
excon
PS> Screw the election.. I'm going skiing.
Awesome video !
Bill Mahrer said Obama forgot TOTUS . Michael Moore said that's what you get when you have John Kerry as your debate coach.
The President should come to these boards to learn his talking points .Where was 'Caymans ' or "47%" or "Bane" ? Very strange performance. Does he think it's beneath him to have to be in a debate ? Has surrounding himself for 4 years with an echo chamber affected him ? Ex is right... maybe he was doing some 'choom' before the debate .He even flubbed his early mention of his anniversary. He even flubbed the 2 minute prepared final statement . It was shocking ! How arrogant is it that he thinks he doesn't need to bring his A game to a presidential debate ?
Yeah we libs are crying in our soup at the end of ROUND1. Your guy brought his red meat, we didn't. So we don't bury Romney today, but we will.
Here's a thought... (Obama) "I love Big Bird .... I won't defund him " .
There was method in President Obama's madness. It gave Romney the opportunity to wear a smarmy smile and lie through his teeth. President Obama couldn't even look him in the face or would have broken out in hysterical laughter. Their next debate will bear watching.
You mean the President was doing a 'rope-a-dope' as he was getting pummeled against the ropes for 90 minutes ? Great call ! He should sue Axelrod for malpractice !
Remember Tom one swallow does not a summer make
Another great Maher tweet...Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Methinks you're in denial.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Hello again, clete:Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
But, if he doesn't improve his debating skills, Romney is going to eat his lunch next time too.
Look.. I'm NOT a good debater. You'd think I WOULD be because I kick right wing butt here every day... Plus, of course, I'm right.. But, I need TIME for formulate my thoughts. If I had to respond VERBALLY to these guys, I'd say stuff that wouldn't win a debate. Sometimes, even TIME doesn't muffle me.
Once you look at the UNDERLYING policy, right wingers want to take the country BACK to 1895. Do you think the debate was a game changer?
excon
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