Hello:

We got Dog on roof guy, or Man on dog guy.. I can't decide.

excon

What?

You mean dog on man guy?

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wtf?

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Hello NK:

Well, you ARE a Canadian...

Mitt Romney strapped his dog to his car roof while the family made a cross country trip... Rick Santorum believes that if gay people are allowed to marry, we'll be on our way to "man on dog" marriages...

excon

Oh.. thanks. Carry on.

Neither are looking very good to me at this time. Romney stepped into it big time with the campaign finance disclosures. He seems hell bent to play his Thurston Howell, III image for all it's worth .
Luxury Hotels Of The Romney Campaign

By the way... he did not "strap his dog to the roof". He put the dog carrier on the roof and the dog travelled in relative comfort in the carrier (until it got the runs) . I imagine the dog had a better ride than those frequent cases where dogs are sedated and put in the cargo hold of airplanes.

Santorum needs to know when to make a political answer . He says too much in his replies . He isn't wrong .But ,as the President might say , sometimes his answers could be more "artful" .

I don't know about any man on dog issues, but this appears to be a real story.

Dog on Santorum

He has a single tale of being peed on by a dog ? That's happened to me too often to remember . Sounds like he handled it well.

Hello:

"April 20, 2003, Santorum stated that he believed mutually consenting adults do not have a constitutional right to privacy with respect to sexual acts. Santorum described the ability to regulate consensual homosexual acts as comparable to the states' ability to regulate other consensual and non-consensual sexual behavior, such as adultery, polygamy, child molestation, incest, and bestiality, whose decriminalization he believed would threaten society and the family, as they are not monogamous and heterosexual."

Isn't bestiality man on dog??

excon

The complete unedited interview segment is here
Raw Data: Excerpts of Santorum's AP Interview | Fox News

He's right you know .If the so called 'right to privacy 'is absolute ,then the state has no business making restrictions on that behavior so long as it's consentual. But states have always had the right to define the parameters of what is marriage ;and what is approved behavior in private . He just didn't say it "artfully" .

Here is the real key part of this interview :


Would a President Santorum eliminate a right to privacy — you don't agree with it?


SANTORUM: I've been very clear about that. The right to privacy is a right that was created in a law that set forth a (ban on) rights to limit individual passions. And I don't agree with that. So I would make the argument that with President, or Senator or Congressman or whoever Santorum, I would put it back to where it is, the democratic process. If New York doesn't want sodomy laws, if the people of New York want abortion, fine. I mean, I wouldn't agree with it, but that's their right. But I don't agree with the Supreme Court coming in.

The only man on dog issues I have is if I see that dane in my yard again it is a stake right thought him

Romney may have taken the dog on trips on the roof of his car, but at least he didn't eat him.

Obama as a Boy Ate Dog Meat

Jim Treacher's response? "I know the Secret Service has a lot to deal with right now, but are they protecting Bo? From Obama, I mean."

I'm only concerned about Bo's private jet rides.
Was Obama dog Bo flown back from Hawaii holiday to Washington for photo op? | Mail Online

Well, Romney is toast. Obama campaign staffers saw the Obama logo in a glass of beer. Personally I think it looks more like a snail.

Was it a staffer or someone from his Secret Service Advance Team ?

Good question, maybe his advance team was also working on the campaign so they could continue their sweet gig next year.

Maybe this will help you decide, Romney's apparently a bad neighbor. Although one neighbor says, “If this were Obama" she'd "probably be fine with it.”

Damn, that NYT is sure doing some bang-up investigative journalism these days. What next, his haircuts cost more than John Edwards' dos did?

Wow ! They are really probing and digging up that dirt!! Good job NY Slimes! Can't wait to read their 5,000 page expose on Obama's membership in the radical socialist 3rd Party in the 1990s ;the 'New Party'.

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Can't wait to read their 5,000 page expose on Obama's membership in the radical socialist 3rd Party in the 1990s ;the 'New Party'.

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Hello again, tom:

More Brietbart stuff... Snicker.. Snicker... You're willing to buy ANYTHING negative about Obama, aren't you?

I WISH he were a socialist... Then we'd have single payer heath care - not a bunch of insurance companies making a FORTUNE off us like we do.. Somehow, THAT stuff goes right past you.

excon

Come on Ex, you know Tom and the right worship free markets, and hate unions and poor people. The whole world should be corporate controlled, and governed. Remember the New World Order. Slaves and rich people. That's why they love Scot Walker, the darling of the union busters, and Mitt Romney, the corporate king.

Tal what Ex is referring to is the Obaama Adm's secret emails where they struck a deal with the so called "BIG PHARMA " to concede on the issue that the President campaigned on... buying cheap imported drugs under Obamacare. Since sell out is a hallmark of national socialists(and international socialists for that matter ) I'm surprised anyone would be surprised.

Tom the issues here are to tax or not to tax, anything else is small cheese

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tal what Ex is referring to is the Obaama Adm's secret emails where they struck a deal with the so called "BIG PHARMA " to concede on the issue that the President campaigned on ...... buying cheap imported drugs under Obamacare. Since sell out is a hallmark of national socialists(and international socialists for that matter ) I'm suprised anyone would be suprised.

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I think he was referring to how you guys wouldn't consider single payer, because it was socialism. You guys have issues, you see socialism every where.

Look under your own bed.

I only see socialism where there is one.. . as in a President who strong arms insurance companies to go along with his plan or sets up a system that will force the rest to go out of business... or practices state socialism with the combination of threat and reward to the pharmaceutical companies .The reward being renaging on a campaign promise to allow cheaper imported drugs as an option

Then uses mandates to get the rest of us on board. The combination of which effectively takes over a huge section of the economy...

And mind you... this is but a preliminary step towards utopia... that single payer system you desire. What he didn't anticipate (or maybe he did) was the impending striking down of the law as completely unconstitutional .

And what leaverage did he have to strong arm and impose his will on these corporations??

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I only see socialism where there is one .. ...as in a President who strong arms insurance companies to go along with his plan or sets up a system that will force the rest to go out of business ...or practices state socialism with the combination of threat and reward to the pharmaceutical companies .The reward being renaging on a campaign promise to allow cheaper imported drugs as an option

Then uses mandates to get the rest of us on board. The combination of which effectively takes over a huge section of the economy ....

and mind you ...this is but a preliminary step towards utopia ...that single payer system you desire. What he didn't anticipate (or maybe he did) was the impending striking down of the law as completely unconstitutional .

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You still haven't let go of the fact your side lost, a single payer system isn't utopia but it can be fairer with only one criteria for eligability, you can still have your doctor, but you can also have a private insurer if you want

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I only see socialism where there is one .. ...as in a President who strong arms insurance companies to go along with his plan or sets up a system that will force the rest to go out of business ...or practices state socialism with the combination of threat and reward to the pharmaceutical companies .The reward being renaging on a campaign promise to allow cheaper imported drugs as an option

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And this is some how different to corporate oligarchies? You know, the ability of corporations with sufficient market power to influence the price, output and investment. The same ability to exercise a monopoly of power thus limiting the ability of new competition to enter the industry.

Sounds exactly the same system to me.

Tut

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And this is some how different to corporate oligarchies? You know, the ability of corporations with sufficient market power to influence the price, output and investment. The same ability to exercise a monopoly of power thus limiting the ability of new competition to enter the industry.

Sounds exactly the same system to me.

Tut

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Such as?

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And this is some how different to corporate oligarchies? You know, the ability of corporations with sufficient market power to influence the price, output and investment. The same ability to exercise a monopoly of power thus limiting the ability of new competition to enter the industry.

Sounds exactly the same system to me.

Tut

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The government has the power of force behind what it does.

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Oil
Energy
Drugs
Insurance
Banks
Farming
Investment Banking/ who has a candidate for president.
Manufacturing
Retail
Hi Tech

To name a few big ones.

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The government has the power of force behind what it does.

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The government is bought paid for, an dictated to. Because they have the money. Going price for the presidency, ONE billion dollars, and that's for republicans, an doesn't count Romney. He has his own loot.

Socialism cannot exist in a free market society. Hell, it barely is 10 percent of China!!

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Oil
Energy
Drugs
Insurance
Banks
Farming
Investment Banking/ who has a candidate for president.
Manufacturing
Retail
Hi Tech

To name a few big ones.

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So stop driving, go holistic, drop your insurance, bury your money in a can, grow your own food, make your own stuff and ditch the computers and cell phones.

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The government is bought paid for, an dictated to.

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So you believe. The logical solution to that is term limits .

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Going price for the presidency, ONE billion dollars

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Based on the claim that the President said he'd raise. When he decided in 2008 to ditch public funding in favor of his own fund raising ,he showed how serious the Dems are about this whole issue of money in politics . I'm frankly bored with that argument . This year the Dems say don't trust the Massachusetts rich guy. In 2004 ? Not so much .

I guess you fell for the marketing and made rich guys job creators. No truth in that, and as a free market guy you should KNOW better. You shouldn't trust the rich guy from Mass. Either, unless you have off shore interest and swiss accounts worth a few hundred million, and he is unemployed.

Hey maybe you are loaded Tom, but you will never share a ceegar and brandy with the Mitt. Hell between Trump and Romney, you will need food stamps to supplement your minimum wage job. Unless your DADDY was a rich guy and you have a silver spoon or a golden parachute. Which one of these things were you blessed with?

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So stop driving, go holistic, drop your insurance, bury your money in a can, grow your own food, make your own stuff and ditch the computers and cell phones.

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You forgot about the water, and you pry the computer and cell phone from my dead cold fingers!!

With the heat index 108, I will pay for the air to run, and the water to flow... COLD. How deep should I bury the empty can??

And you'll never have Pâté de Foie Gras and arugula with Barack and the The Devil Wears Prada lady. What's your point?

Speaking of the Massachusetts rich guy, the left seems to be compensating for the huge bummer Obama turned out to be by going all in for Fauxcahontas.

Exit question, were some Democrats disenfranchised because they couldn't get into the convention to vote for Marisa DeFranco without a valid photo ID?

I wouldn't hob nob with those stiffs if I had the chance;and I don't practice 'class envy' either .The only use they are to me is the jobs they create ;and their philanthropy.

I don't envy the wealthy either, but they are far from the job creators that you paint them to be, and the motives behind their philantropy is suspect, and a great way to shelter wealth, and pick winners, and losers.

Philanthropy and the estate tax - CSMonitor.com

Tax Shelters and Charity

Tax Charities And Tax Shelters: Old Wine In New Bottles?

So if a guy gives millions to help others for a tax break he should stop giving? Oh wait, you think the Fed could better distribute those millions to the needy. Bwa ha ha ha!!

Yeah there is always nefarious reasons behind good works . That's why the libs think the government should be the sole source of charity. Or is it only the rich that have bad intent when they support causes like...
Celebrity Fight Night Foundation,Children with AIDS,David Foster Foundation,DoSomething.org,Friends of Scotland,Jimmy Fund,Make A Child Smile Appeal,Make-A-Wish Foundation,Mississippi Animal Rescue League,Muhammad Ali Parkinson Center,Neurofibromatosis, Inc. Operation Smile,Paralyzed Veterans of America,Pediatric Epilepsy Project,Raising MalawiReef Relief,Smile Train,St. Francis Food Pantries and Shelters,The Doe Fund,UNICEF,Wounded Warrior Project (all Trump supported organizations )