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News Corp may be at risk for U.S. probe over bribery - Yahoo! News

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Rupert Murdoch's News Corp could face probes by U.S. authorities for possibly violating bribery laws, compounding the media mogul's problems after a phone-hacking scandal in Britain.
British media outlets reported that News of the World reporters bought phone details for the royal family from a security officer. The Daily Mirror newspaper reported, citing an unidentified source, that News of the World reporters had also offered to pay a New York police officer to retrieve the private phone records of victims of the September 11 attacks.
Another possible headache for Murdoch's empire is that a bribery inquiry that started in one country could go global and such investigations can drag on for years and cost tens of millions of dollars.

Maybe next they'll go after the Obama administration for bribing the media.

That should be looked into as well. You can start your own thread.

I wonder if News Corp will reach CBS levels of fabricating the news.

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I wonder if News Corp will reach CBS levels of fabricating the news.

LOL! News Corp owns Fox News! So yes.

This kind of lit the fire: BBC News - Q&A: News of the World phone-hacking scandal

Here's how the mighty empire stacks up: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14030051

The stock has been fairly stable through all this:
News Corporation Share Price Chart | NWS - Yahoo! UK & Ireland Finance though it is starting to dip in the last week.

It's one to watch though.

Hello NK:

If you believe the problem Murdock is having in the UK was limited to that one newspaper, then he'll skate here... But, if you believe that HE sanctioned it, then he DOES have a problem here...

But, if I'm not mistaken, when the scandal first broke years ago, the newspaper said that it was the work of ONE LONE ROGUE reporter, and he was FIRED... Of course, that's not true at all. We now find out that this kind of behavior was rife throughout that newspaper...

Why would anyone think it's not happening here?? Because he SAYS so?? Bwa, ha ha ha.

excon

This is too funny... and sad:

As I've said before, the only FNC show watch is Fox and Friends and I know they've been covering the story and saying that Newscorp is their parent company. It's also covered on their website, so what's the problem? Someone upset that it isn't their lead story every half hour? I thought we were supposed to be more concerned with the debt ceiling.

If News corp goes down there will be another organization to run a ratings winner like FOX .

The Brit tabloids have always been a bit rogue. They chased Lady Di to her death. You think the left leaners in their press corp is immune from these tactics in the pursuit of the sensational ?

This story is a liberal's wet dream. You got Boxer and Rockefeller trying to get Senate Hearings. This will distract the country from their poor performance... They think the country needs the distraction now that the Clemens case went belly up.

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This story is a liberal's wet dream.

Other than your awkward obsession with ejaculation no one has brought this up as a political issue, it's a business issue, isn't it? Why must you demonize people who don't share your brand of politics?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

If News corp goes down there will be another organization to run a ratings winner like FOX .

This story is a liberal's wet dream.

Hello again, tom:

Yes, there will ALWAYS be a market for the swill FOX spews... But, they won't have the latitude they do now. As a matter of fact, I'm CERTAIN of it.

Wet dream?? Did I enjoy Nixon's downfall?? Only in that it exposed corruption at the core of government, as this one might. We ALL benefit when corruption is rooted out, don't we?

excon

It was an overzealous company ,who's parent organization is NewsCorp ,doing something illegal to discover the sensational tabloid stories in England .

Where were the Senate hearings when CBS's Dan Rather and his group forged documents in an attempt to influence an American election ?

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Where were the Senate hearings when CBS's Dan Rather and his group forged documents in an attempt to influence an American election ?

Hello again, tom:

When CBS said that it was the work of a LONE reporter, it was the truth.

When Murdock's newspaper said it was the work of a LONE reporter, they were LYING through their teeth.

excon

And of course everyone took CBS at their word . Again... where was the Senate Hearings ? Why didn't the FCC slap them down ? They got in more trouble for a costume malfunction.

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and of course everyone took CBS at their word . Again

Hello again, tom:

They took Murdock at his word too, for many years, until they couldn't deny what was right in front of them... The difference is??

I'll be happy to support senate hearings into CBS when you can show me they're acting like Murdock is.

excon

Hello again,

I earlier compared Murdock's decline to Nixon. Now, I think it's more like Joe McCarthy. Nobody was willing to confront McCarthy because they were afraid that he would DESTROY them, and he WOULD.

Then the first one asked, "Have you no sense of decency?", and then everybody piled on. It was the END of McCarthy, and this may spell the end of Murdock.

excon

McCarthy was right .The problem is that the legend has him wrong ,and the historic proof has not supplanted the legend. But in truth ;the NSA intercepted communications between the Soviets and their infiltrators for years that confirmed the charges McCarthy was making .
We did not get that evidence public until the Venona intercepts went public in 1995 .
But there has been enough time past to correct the fallacy and smear against Sen McCarthy . If he had been a Democrat lib you know the media and academia would've made it a priority .

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McCarthy was right .

No he wasn't. He perpetrated the biggest knee jerk reaction ever.

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We did not get that evidence public until the Venona intercepts went public in 1995 .

This: Venona project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In no way should ever have led to this: McCarthyism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Blindly toeing the party line has never been more evident.

I know what the left has defined as 'McCarthyism'. I say his charge that the Soviets had penetrated the US Government ,espcially the State Dept was right on as the evidence has shown.It was not done " without proper regard for evidence".

Meanwhile at Fox News the shenanigans continue:
The Most Incredible Thing Fox News Has Ever Done - James Fallows - National - The Atlantic

They have no shame.

Hello, again:

I suppose since FOX has news shows where they tell the truth AND opinion shows where they don't, this must be one of their opinion shows.

Nonetheless, if FOX wants to keep up the pretenses of journalism, they'll have to STOP this kind of crap EVEN on its opinion shows. It IS kind of incredulous that they would spin it this way. It looks like the last gasps of a drowning man.

excon

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Meanwhile at Fox News the shenanigans continue:
The Most Incredible Thing Fox News Has Ever Done - James Fallows - National - The Atlantic

They have no shame.

Hi Kama,

Murdoch has no shame so why would Fox? When you are dealing news from the level of the gutter shame is the least of your worries.

Hello again:

If there IS such a thing as a "culture of corruption" (a favorite right wing expression), Murdock's empire exemplifies it.

Why would ANYONE think that culture isn't prevalent right here in our midst?

excon

Oh I know it is ; I see it in the power of GE and their conglomerate media empire.

You telling me that big media empires should be broken up ;I'll agree. Despite attempts trying to associate my views to the power of the Murdoch empire ,it just isn't so.
There are a few shows on FOX news I watch ;and I tune in to the local FOX network because they air NFL games. Other than that ,I don't think FOX advances our culture with their course and crude choices they air on their entertainment programs.

If FOX News goes there will be someone else to pick up the mantle . The viewership is there which means there is a market for what they air.

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You telling me that big media empires should be broken up ;I'll agree.

Hello again, tom:

No problem here with that! The media we have now are nothing but public relations firms - FOX included.

excon

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Meanwhile at Fox News the shenanigans continue:
The Most Incredible Thing Fox News Has Ever Done - James Fallows - National - The Atlantic

They have no shame.

That's "the most incredible thing Fox News has ever done"? Bwa ha haaa! Much worse than creating fake service documents on the president.

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That's "the most incredible thing Fox News has ever done"? Bwa ha haaa!

You're right, there are plenty of others but this one related to the original topic.

No, if this is "the MOST INCREDIBLE THING Fox News has EVER done," The Atlantic, WaPo, News Hounds and Media Matters (among others) need to find a new hobby. Like, covering something important.

Well things may have taken a nastier turn:

News of the World phone-hacking whistleblower found dead

Deep doo indeed, was that doo doo Rupert was hit with?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Well things may have taken a nastier turn:

News of the World phone-hacking whistleblower found dead

Nice of them to mention that Sean Hoare had been ill for years .

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deep doo indeed, was that doo doo Rupert was hit with?

A whip cream pie. See his wife try to punch out the puke that tried it ?

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nice of them to mention that Sean Hoare had been ill for years .

a whip cream pie. See his wife try to punch out the puke that tried it ?

How do you get a can of whip cream into Parliament? Yes good try on the part of the wife but she missed.

You are not suggesting the British press are being even handed, they must be on their best behaviour, still it is not the first time a brit in a scandal has been found dead.

I think Rupert's defense is appalling, but they are really asking the wrong person, his role in the company is hardly day to day operational, he would be contemplating the next takeover not some grubby story in a grubby little nation. Still it was the most expensive story ever I wonder what the cost in billions is?

In an age when Jullian Assange antics are touted as Nobel prize material I think this story is a bit over blown.

Did the US ever have an example like this ? You betcha.

Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein at the very beginning of what was to become 'Watergate' gained access to phone records and credit card records during their investigation and used them.
They of course are now the famous journalists that all others aspire to become.

From pages 35 and 36 of All the President’s Men:
Bernstein had several sources in the Bell system. He was always reluctant to use them to get information about calls because of the ethical questions involved in breaching the confidentiality of a person’s telephone records. It was a problem he had never resolved in his mind. Why, as a reporter, was he entitled to have access to personal and financial records when such disclosure would outrage him if he were subjected to a similar inquiry by investigators?

Without dwelling on his problem, Bernstein called a telephone company source and asked for a list of Barker’s calls. That afternoon, his contact called back and confirmed that the calls listed in the Times had been made. But, he added, he could not get a fuller listing because Barker’s phone records had been subpoenaed by the Miami district attorney.

Bernstein of course now justifies his abuse with the greater good argument .
Here from his recent Snoozeweek op ed .

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When Bob Woodward and I came up against difficult ethical questions, such as whether to approach grand jurors for information (which we did, and perhaps shouldn’t have), we sought executive editor Ben Bradlee’s counsel, and he in turn called in the company lawyers, who gave the go-ahead and outlined the legal issues in full. Publisher Katharine Graham was informed. Likewise, Bradlee was aware when I obtained private telephone and credit-card records of one of the Watergate figures.

Carl Bernstein: Is Phone-Hacking Scandal Murdoch's Watergate? - Newsweek

Ah! The boss said it was OK!! Note the clever way he ties Murdoch into the Watergate tale. Of course if he told his boss about it then surely the reporters at News of the World must've told Murdoch.

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Bernstein of course now justifies his abuse with the greater good argument .
Here from his recent Snoozeweek op ed .
Carl Bernstein: Is Phone-Hacking Scandal Murdoch's Watergate? - Newsweek

Ah !! the boss said it was ok !!! Note the clever way he ties Murdoch into the Watergate tale. Of course if he told his boss about it then surely the reporters at News of the World must've told Murdoch.

Hi Tom,

Are you saying that because Bernstein and Woodward have sullied reputations the article is baseless?

We all know what fallacy that commits.

Tut