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  • Nov 3, 2010, 06:11 AM
    excon
    Post election prognistication
    Hello:

    What?? No gloating?? Go ahead - gloat. You got 24 hours... Ok, I know why you're not gloating - because the right wing didn't get hired. The left just got fired... And, how about that Sharron Angle? I guess she can use her Second Amendment remedies, now... She didn't get her way...

    Speaker Orange looked like Glenn Beck when he cried... I actually LIKED it, though. He's human, and I'm going to give him a break for two years...

    And, what about that crazy California?? The zillions spent by Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorino didn't matter. They elected Governor Moonbeam, but they defeated the legalization of pot... What's up with that?

    So, tell me what all this means...

    excon
  • Nov 3, 2010, 06:42 AM
    smoothy

    Sore loser... don't tell me you like most Democrats never saw this coming. You didn't actually believe most people actually Liked or wanted what Obama and the Dems were trying to stuff down our throats?

    What this means is simply... the people duped by the Con Artists at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue are wise to the game this election and it shifted back to sanity rather than Socialism the left wants.

    Simple as that.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 06:59 AM
    tomder55

    I was up late and have not had a chance to digest all that happened.
    The House went as I expected . It would've been nice to pick off West Va. Because I think Reid is going to do some crazy things in the lame duck session and an extra Republican block would've been helpful. If there is a silver lining in his win it's that Schumer won't be majority leader .

    The Tea party had some great success and some set backs. What this tells me is that they haven't learned how to manage a national campaign yet and will continue to need the Republican machine. The Republicans in turn need the Tea party . It is only their enthusiasm that made the results yesterday possible.

    Angle is a case in point. She did not have the Reid 'get out the vote' machine.

    Rubio... he is Tea Party ,but also a protégé of Jeb Bush. He has a great future. The Clintoon visit to Fla to throw Meek under the bus proved the biggest mistake of the cycle. The African-Americans did not show up and many districts the Dems could've won in the State went Red . With the Governor-elect being Republican ;and this being a redistricting year , the President may have thrown a huge monkey wrench in his reelection plans (if he has any).

    To me the Governor results is the under reported story . I for one wish NY went Republican because I live in possibly the most rediculously gerrymandered district in the nation.

    The strategery was always a 2 election cycle plan. It would've been extremely difficult to take the Senate because most of the seats in contention were Republican hold . The 2012 cycle has many more Dem seats up for grabs.

    California... what can I say ? Talk about voting against their own best interest! Brown and Boxer are a joke.

    I note that in AZ there was a Governor contest... yes there really was. The national media was very silent on that because they knew Brewer would romp and the main reason she did was because she defends the right of the state to make and enforce laws that defends the state.

    Re the speaker... we now have a person of color in both the Presidency and the Speaker of the House positions. He's got to stay out of the tanning booths... it must be bombarding him with estrogen.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 07:24 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Re the speaker ....... we now have a person of color in both the Presidency and the Speaker of the House positions.

    Hello tom:

    That is POSITIVELY funny. I didn't know you had it in you. Must be the giddiness..

    I think your assessment is pretty accurate. However, given that Angle's election wouldn't have given the senate to the Republicans, I think Reid should have lost for two reasons: in the first place, it would be great FUN to have Sharron Angle around for the next six years. In the second place, if I believe one of the Democrats MAJOR problems was communication, and I DO, then Shumer would be an ideal leader. No matter what you think of him, he can articulate the message without making me fall asleep.

    excon
  • Nov 3, 2010, 07:43 AM
    speechlesstx

    I'm pleased but I'm not going to gloat. And speaking of color, I think it's great that a fine Hispanic man in Marco Rubio defeated another overly tanned guy for the Senate, along with David Rivera and Allen West in the House from Florida.

    Oh, and that pathetic man Alan Grayson is gone. That's not gloating is it?
  • Nov 3, 2010, 07:55 AM
    smoothy

    I'll Gloat that Princess Nancy Pelosi isn't going to be the speaker of the house any longer very soon... She was arguably the most arrogant self righteous and pompous female in politics today.

    And Air Pelosi won't be bleeding the taxpays dry any longer.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 07:59 AM
    tomder55

    I think Grayson has a fine future when he replaced Ed on MSNBC .

    Guv Big Hair did very well. Do you think he's going to make a run at the White House ?

    More on Nevada. The Angle killer was the line item on their ballot for "none of the above".. . that ,the Casino union workers hired for day to drive voters to the polls ,and the SEIU poll watchers.

    I hate to beat a dead horse ,but there was some poll mischief by the NBP in Houston . This is becoming habitual .
  • Nov 3, 2010, 08:01 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Oh, and that pathetic man Alan Grayson is gone. That's not gloating is it?

    Hello again, Steve:

    Yes. Bummer for you. But, I've still got Louie Gohmert to kick around. Is THAT gloating?

    excon
  • Nov 3, 2010, 08:30 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Guv Big Hair did very well. Do you think he's going to make a run at the White House ?

    The Gov. Goodhair vote was merely a choice between the lesser of two evils. I hope he doesn't run for president, he's never lost an election.

    Quote:

    I hate to beat a dead horse ,but there was some poll mischief by the NBP in Houston . This is becoming habitual .
    In Texas, there is no electioneering within 100 feet if the door to the polling place, but apparently here and in Philly you can patrol the door with clubs.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 08:46 AM
    tomder55

    I think Perry will make a run. 3rd terms aren't usually successful . I don't think he'll fare well on the national stage despite his convenient embrace of the Tea Party and his campaign coffers.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 09:28 AM
    spitvenom

    What this means is simple in 4 years when NOTHING happens then the Repubs will be voted out the Dems will be voted back in and they will do nothing and so on and so on. Time for the Rise of the Rent is to damn high party :p
  • Nov 3, 2010, 09:48 AM
    tomder55

    Here is the NY Guv breakdown

    Andrew Cuomo, Dem 2,532,447 - 62 per cent

    Carl Paladino, Rep 1,399,235 - 34 per cent

    Howie Hawkins, Grn 56,868 - 1 per cent

    Jimmy McMillan,Rent TDH 39,850 - 1 per cent

    Warren Redlich, Lib 44,696 - 1 per cent

    Kristin Davis, Oth 22,775 - 1 per cent

    Charles Barron, Fre 20,717 - 1 per cent

    ...
    I considered voting for him until I heard him on a radio interview state his position was to bring the Obama agenda to the local level. That was an immediate DQ in my book.

    The Admiral almost pulled it off in the Keystone State. Had the President's Philly mobilization worked he would've .

    One thing that concerned me is that he closed the gap by charging Toomey is a 'free trader' with China . That was a similar charge that worked for the HindenBoxer in Ca.

    Shumer is openly threatening trade war with China so I see this as a growing sentiment .
  • Nov 3, 2010, 09:55 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Shumer is openly threatening trade war with China so I see this as a growing sentiment .

    Hello again, tom:

    Hmm. Our JOBS are going to China... This election was about JOBS. China's trade policy encourages the importation of MORE of our JOBS. Shumer is doing something about the loss of our JOBS. He's trying to keep some of our JOBS here by confronting the Chinese.

    But, you'd rather give a tax break to the rich, as though you think that'll help us keep the jobs that are left... Who, by the way, do you think are the ones who're shipping our JOBS off to China?? They're the rich, who you want to give a tax break to and add it to the deficit so my grandchildren have to pay for it... Dude.

    excon
  • Nov 3, 2010, 09:56 AM
    spitvenom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Here is the NY Guv breakdown

    Andrew Cuomo, Dem 2,532,447 - 62 per cent

    Carl Paladino, Rep 1,399,235 - 34 per cent

    Howie Hawkins, Grn 56,868 - 1 per cent

    Jimmy McMillan,Rent TDH 39,850 - 1 per cent

    Warren Redlich, Lib 44,696 - 1 per cent

    Kristin Davis, Oth 22,775 - 1 per cent

    Charles Barron, Fre 20,717 - 1 per cent

    ..............................
    I considered voting for him until I heard him on a radio interview state his position was to bring the Obama agenda to the local level. That was an immediate DQ in my book.

    The Admiral almost pulled it off in the Keystone State. Had the President's Philly mobilization worked he would've .

    One thing that concerned me is that he closed the gap by charging Toomey is a 'free trader' with China . That was a simular charge that worked for the HindenBoxer in Ca.

    Shumer is openly threatening trade war with China so I see this as a growing sentiment .

    I thought Sestak would pull it off but he didn't oh well. I can't believe McMillan even got 1%. How do you think Big Jon Runyan will do?
  • Nov 3, 2010, 10:04 AM
    tomder55

    Latest in Washington Senate contest... 65% counted... still too close to call. There are still 500,000 mail in votes that have not made it in from the postal system yet. (deadline for mailing was midnight )
  • Nov 3, 2010, 10:10 AM
    tomder55

    Runyan they pulled a nice trick on . The Dems ran a phony 'tea party' candidate in the race .This time I'm on Runyan's side .He's not trying to block Strahan.

    Ex. My only concern is that trade wars devolve rapidly into shooting wars. Other than that I have no problem taking aim at China .They have been blocking sale of rare earth minerals to us and to Japan. Given the national security implications ,that can't go unanswered . But Admiral Sestak's charge against Toomey was a cheap baseless attack.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 10:38 AM
    spitvenom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Runyan they pulled a nice trick on . The Dems ran a phony 'tea party' candidate in the race .This time I'm on Runyan's side .He's not trying to block Strahan.

    Trying is the key word!! Strahan owned Runyan.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 10:52 AM
    smoothy

    If they tried to make a TV in California they would have to charge $10,000 for each one after all the Environmental charges... taxes... free benefits to non-workers etc.

    No wonder the work is going overseas. Who is going to pay to go to college to work for minimum wage building TV's, DVRs, Radios etc...

    And even at minimum wage you would have to pay a LOT more to buy something... just for them to break even.

    I know a lot about this... I have an Electronics Engineering Degree and have worked for two manufacturers in the past here on the East Coast that I quit over wages.

    And that has nothing to do with someone Rich... hogging the money.


    How about Hollywood cutting the wages of actors... nobody actually needs to make Millions pretending to be somebody else...

    Who can afford to take the family to see a movie these days with just $10 a head for tickets alone.

    Or Go to a Concert or Sports event at $75 or higher each just for the bad seats...
  • Nov 3, 2010, 11:22 AM
    spitvenom

    Is that how much it is to go to the movies? I only go to the movies on a Wednesday night (5 bucks all day plus free popcorn) and Sunday mornings before 11 again 5 bucks and the place is empty. I go to a ton of Phillies and sixers games and not once have I ever paid over 35.00 for a ticket and they are great seats. As far as concerts go I am really into indie hiphop so tickets to those concerts range from $15.00 to $25.00.

    I work for a manufacturer in NJ I make a great salary and our fuel management system are very affordable. Why does everything need to be made in CA?
  • Nov 3, 2010, 11:40 AM
    speechlesstx

    I have found I like to usher at events. Not only do we get to see the show for free, we raise money for the kiddos at church to go to camp and such. Saw The Temptations on Sunday, it was a blast.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 11:56 AM
    spitvenom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I have found I like to usher at events. Not only do we get to see the show for free, we raise money for the kiddos at church to go to camp and such. Saw The Temptations on Sunday, it was a blast.

    Very cool Speech. Hey why do you have a picture of an Ain'ts fan OH WAIT sorry HAHAHAHAHAHAHA GO EAGLES!!
  • Nov 3, 2010, 12:39 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Very cool Speech. Hey why do you have a picture of of an Ain'ts fan OH WAIT sorry HAHAHAHAHAHAHA GO EAGLES!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yeah, that's right... Cowboys fans are now wearing bags over their heads. Good thing I'm a Colts fan now.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 12:51 PM
    spitvenom

    You should jump on the Raiders Bandwagon they have always been my AFC team. Thank you very much Bo Jackson and Rap music!
  • Nov 3, 2010, 12:56 PM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Is that how much it is to go to the movies? I only go to the movies on a Wednesday night (5 bucks all day plus free popcorn) and Sunday mornings before 11 again 5 bucks and the place is empty. I go to a ton of Phillies and sixers games and not once have I ever paid over 35.00 for a ticket and they are great seats. As far as concerts go I am really into indie hiphop so tickets to those concerts range from $15.00 to $25.00.

    I work for a manufacturer in NJ I make a great salary and our fuel management system are very affordable. Why does everything need to be made in CA?

    Damn... I haven't seen prices for the theater like that in 20 years. Yeah the relatively unknown groups will be affordible... I was meaning the headliner groups. When I was in College they were actually affordible... and that's even factoring in the inflation adjusted prices.

    California was used as an example since its California and the liberals that cry the loudest about the jobs going overseas... yeah the right does as well, but unlike them we don't believe in massive entitlement programs for people that never earned anything of the sort like California has.

    But much the same holds true in the greater DC metro region where I have lived and worked in Both MD and DC for nearly 30 years except the years I spent overseas. Never lived or worked in NJ so can't comment there but I do know NJ has stupid high taxes from people I know who lived there.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 01:20 PM
    speechlesstx

    Now would be a good time to get on the Raiders bandwagon, they've scored what, 90 something points the last 2 weeks? I used to watch them when Kenny Stabler was the QB. Heck, I used to watch them when George Blanda played.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 01:36 PM
    spitvenom

    Smoothy Check out AMC theaters They are the ones that have the special discount tickets and free popcorn. Yeah Speech I think it was about 90 points in the last two games. I don't think they scored 90 points total last year!!
  • Nov 3, 2010, 02:08 PM
    speechlesstx
    The MS-NBC hate, whine and excuse fest has kicked in.

    2012 GOP Candidates Are "Nothing"--NOBODY Can Beat Obama--Not Even "Fat Boy" Christie!

    "Marco Rubio Perpetuates All Of The Bad Stereotypes About Cuban Americans"

    "It's All White Men"
  • Nov 3, 2010, 02:34 PM
    tomder55

    McFadden... I tried to pick him up but Lori beat me to it. Not that I think the raiders run will last... but I ride the hot hand.

    My hot hand is the law firm in NE

    I'm worried about the Gnats coming off a bye week and going into Seattle . I smell a loss.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 02:59 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    McFadden ......I tried to pick him up but Lori beat me to it. Not that I think the raiders run will last .....but I ride the hot hand.

    My hot hand is the law firm in NE

    I'm worried about the Gnats coming off a bye week and going into Seattle . I smell a loss.

    I told you Lori was the one to worry about. My hot hands were Vernon Davis and Ryan Torain... both on a bye.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 04:00 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    My hot hands were Vernon Davis and Ryan Torain...both on a bye.

    Hello again, Steve:

    I don't even play, because my nanny state decided, for my own good, that, while it's not illegal to play, if I won, I couldn't collect. I HATE the nanny state, ceptin for banning happy meals... That's a GOOD ban...

    What?? I can't choose the morals I want enforced??

    excon
  • Nov 3, 2010, 05:58 PM
    smoothy
    And the left Doesn't understand why we call that band of fools... MS-LSD. Because they are clearly tripping on something.
  • Nov 3, 2010, 06:38 PM
    twinkiedooter

    Ding dong the Witch is Gone!! Mimi Pelosi is history!! OMG I never thought it would happen!! Hip Hip Horay!

    Now we won't have to look at that old, dried up, shriveled up, self centered, self serving, spendaholic any longer gloating at us little "citizens who do her Majesty's bidding" any longer.

    I've read "rumors" that she's spearheading the Obama impeachment thingy. Wonder why? Because she's been thrown under the bus (or house that Dorothy landed in OZ and smashed her with)? Uh, no pun intended here.

    Now she'll have to "fly" coach if she has to pay for it. Ohhhhh, couldn't happen to a nicer person...
  • Nov 3, 2010, 06:41 PM
    twinkiedooter
    What about the deceased Senator in California who won the election for her reelection? That's worse than weird considering most folks from California are "dead" anyway and just don't know it.
  • Nov 4, 2010, 10:44 AM
    speechlesstx
    The talk today seems to be on Obama's conciliatory tone yesterday... I say it was a head fake. The man has made a political career out of saying one thing and doing the opposite.

    In his victory speech the partisan divide was over, a few weeks ago Republicans could "come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back." He wanted them "just to get out of the way" and "don't do a lot of talking." "Enemies" (American voters) had to be "punished." Transparency? Not going to happen.

    Remember back when Scott Brown was elected? He warned Democrats not to "jam" Obamacare through and what did he do? He doubled down and jammed it through. So for the last 24 hours the media has discussed "compromise" and told us his signature energy goal was dead, cap and trade.

    But did anyone catch what he actually said? “There is more than one way to skin a cat.”

    And he will, he's not backing down.
  • Nov 4, 2010, 11:02 AM
    spitvenom

    Did Bush ever back down?
  • Nov 4, 2010, 11:23 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The talk today seems to be on Obama's conciliatory tone yesterday...I say it was a head fake. The man has made a political career out of saying one thing and doing the opposite.

    In his victory speech the partisan divide was over, a few weeks ago Republicans could "come for the ride, but they gotta sit in back." He wanted them "just to get out of the way" and "don't do a lot of talking." "Enemies" (American voters) had to be "punished." Transparency? Not gonna happen.

    Remember back when Scott Brown was elected? He warned Democrats not to "jam" Obamacare through and what did he do? He doubled down and jammed it through. So for the last 24 hours the media has discussed "compromise" and told us his signature energy goal was dead, cap and trade.

    But did anyone catch what he actually said? “There is more than one way to skin a cat.”

    And he will, he's not backing down.

    I saw nothing Conciliatory in what he said... I saw an arrogant horses behind that STILL doesn't grasp that the majority of the people don't like his agenda... and the pompous SOB still thinks its everyone else that has to bow to his decree because he is the Mighty Messiah... who dare demand HE of all people compromise about anything.

    More of the same old "my way or the hiway" that has come out of that whitehouse ever since he moved in and ran down the property values.
  • Nov 4, 2010, 11:52 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Did Bush ever back down?

    NCLB was a Teddy Kennedy initiative that Bush supported . Medicare Part D was also a Dem initiative. In fact... most of the major spending initiatives under the Bush years were reachout efforts with the Dems.
  • Nov 4, 2010, 12:04 PM
    spitvenom

    What I was saying is Bush was not the type to back down (not a bad thing). A reach out is not a back down. Maybe the @$$ kicking that went down on Tuesday will cause a little bit of a back down. When He said there is more then one way to skin a cat is his dopey way of saying he will reach out. Who knows.
  • Nov 4, 2010, 02:14 PM
    speechlesstx

    Well, like I said, after the Scot Brown win he took the same tone and told the Dems not to jam health care through, which is precisely what he did... and then sneered at the protests, "you would think they'd be saying thank you."

    We'll soon see what reaching out means to him once again.
  • Nov 4, 2010, 02:52 PM
    speechlesstx

    In another development, Media Matters - the George Soros funded group whose sole mission is attacking Fox News - has determined what went wrong for Democrats.

    It wasn't anti-incumbent fever.

    It wasn't a national temper-tantrum.

    It wasn't ignorance, denial, willful stupidity, and blind rage.

    It wasn't Obama not getting his message out.

    It wasn't voter racism.

    It wasn't "secret money."

    No, none of that... Fox News won the election for Republicans.

    Quote:

    During the 2010 election cycle, Fox News, its employees, and its parent company engaged in an unprecedented campaign in support of the Republican Party. The network served as the communications and fundraising wing of the GOP while fervently promoting -- and sometimes creating -- the party's candidates.
    Part of their shocking discovery was that "Fox News candidates "speak through Fox News."

    Quote:

    Fox News candidates "speak through Fox News"at least 269 times in 2010. Media Matters for America searched the Nexis database through September 18 for network and cable television appearances in 2010 by five potential 2012 Republican presidential candidates who currently have relationships with Fox News. The five potential candidates -- John Bolton, Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin, and Rick Santorum -- have appeared 269 times on Fox News and a total of six times on CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, and CBS combined.
    Yes, John Bolton (I didn't know he was in the running) has weekly scheduled appearances on Fox News as an analyst. Newt Gingrich has been a paid contributor for years. I'm sure you heard Sarah Palin had a short-lived show and Huckabee... has had his own weekly show on Fox News for over 2 years. Let's see, 52 weeks a year, a few preemptions and re-runs, plus regular contributions as a paid employee and appearances to promote his show... that's what, 150 or so appearances right there?

    Media Matters is shocked that Fox employees appear on their network? I'd like for them to do a Lexis-Nexis search on the number of Democrat appearances on Fox during that same span and report back.

    Oh yeah, Alan Grayson appeared on MSNBC 62 times... but when you only have 79 viewers it really doesn't matter.

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