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  • Sep 25, 2010, 11:45 AM
    tomder55
    Ayers denied
    Obama compadre and patron ,former Weather Underground terrorist and, current professor at the Univiersity of Illinois Chicago William Ayers was denied the prestigious status of Professor Emeritus by a unanimous vote of the University Board .

    One of the overlooked Ayers books before the 2008 election was the almost forgotten "communist/terrorist manifesto " written by Ayers called Prairie Fire . In the book he brags about the bombings he planned ,his communist convictions ,and the rationale behind the Weather Underground terrorist movement (which had nothing to do with Vietnam) . Ayers dedicated the book to a rogues gallery that included Robert F Kennedy assassin Sirhan Sirhan.

    He later went on from a terrorist bomber to university professor when he realized he could do more damage to the country by controlling what American youth learn than blowing up buildings and people one bomb at a time (as evidenced in his address with ,and praise of Hugo Chavez ,in Venezuela, about radical education).

    The delicious irony is that the UIC board is led by Chris Kennedy RFK's SON!!

    In a very emotional statement Kennedy declared :

    “I intend to vote against conferring the honorific title of our university to a man whose body of work includes a book dedicated in part to the man who murdered my father, Robert F. Kennedy,” .....
    “There is nothing more antithetical to the hopes for a university that is lively and yet civil, or to the hopes of our founding fathers for their great experiment of a self-governing people, than to permanently seal off debate with one's opponents by killing them.”


    BAM!!

    Ayer's chickens coming home to roost!

    The next thing for the board to do is to expel him from the University for spreading his hatred of his country to generations of American youth . As for young Kennedy... it is all well and good that you took this action for a personal vendetta . Now let's hear your condemnation of Ayers for his past terrorist activities.
  • Sep 25, 2010, 04:55 PM
    speechlesstx

    What is it folks from that generation like to say? Karma's a b*tch?
  • Sep 25, 2010, 05:06 PM
    Wondergirl

    Ayers is denied because of personal spite?
  • Sep 25, 2010, 05:35 PM
    tomder55

    Yes dedication of his book to the terrorist who snuffed his old man was kind of hard to get over for Chris Kennedy I guess
  • Sep 25, 2010, 05:38 PM
    Wondergirl

    Doesn't seem ummmm ethical.
  • Sep 25, 2010, 07:46 PM
    tomder55

    What really isn't ethical is keeping an unrepentant scum like Ayers as a professor in the 1st place. Kennedy is right on .Too bad it takes something personal like this for the left to recognize what a piece of krap Ayers is . I liken the University even considering honoring that sub-human as the equivalent of the Palestinians naming streets after homicide bombers.

    There is nothing entitled about the emeritus status .It is an honor and a privilege... not a right. I don't think the board went far enough. Kennedy ,as chair of the board sat silent for years while the creating was a professor at the University . He had many occasions to allow investigations into Ayers past and continuous terror supporting activities. I will remind you that Ayers was this year ,deeply involved in the flotilla incident ,and giving support to Hamas

    He lived a comfortable life brainwashing American youth instead of rotting in jail where he belonged . That alone is more consideration than he deserves . That's more than police Sergeant Brian McDonnell,New York City, Judge Murtagh ,police officers, Edward O'Grady and Waverly Brown, and a Brink's guard, Peter Paige received.
  • Sep 26, 2010, 04:36 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Doesn't seem ummmm ethical.

    Really? Why?
  • Sep 26, 2010, 05:16 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Obama compadre and patron ,former Weather Underground terrorist and, current professor at the Univiersity of Illinois Chicago William Ayers

    Hello tom:

    The only reason for your interest in a 60's radical is if you believe that Obama was his "compadre". You're wrong as usual. This 60's was a long time ago... Let it go...

    excon
  • Sep 26, 2010, 06:50 AM
    tomder55

    Nope... Just can't let go of the fact that the President's patron and friend is a terror bomber . Sgt McDonnell left 2 children behind .Ayers is no different than Tim Mc Veigh .
  • Sep 26, 2010, 10:45 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Nope ...Just can't let go of the fact that the President's patron and friend is a terror bomber .

    Ayers and his wife agreed to be the host for Obama's first neighborhood "meet and greet the presidential candidate" event. They aren't friends (more like acquaintances) and Ayers kicked in -- guess how much money?
  • Sep 26, 2010, 11:31 AM
    tomder55

    OK ,deny the Annenburg and the Woods Fund connection if you like . Ignore the Obama and Bernardine Dohrn connection from their law firm Sidley and Austin days .


    The truth is that they have had a long time personal and professional relationship since 1988.
  • Sep 26, 2010, 12:04 PM
    Wondergirl

    And how many hundreds of people were also involved in those things including the law firm? They were ships passing in the night.
  • Sep 26, 2010, 03:41 PM
    tomder55

    .. ships that sailed the same cruise and docked in the same port.
    Give it up. The links are undeniable .
  • Sep 26, 2010, 04:03 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    ..ships that sailed the same cruise and docked in the same port.
    Give it up. The links are undeniable .

    "Links." *piffle* I put more money into Obama's presidential campaign than Ayers did.
  • Sep 26, 2010, 04:58 PM
    tomder55

    Patron means more than monetary support. Obama's career and it's direction was orchestrated by Ayers .

    The money was from Dr. Khalid al Mansour .
  • Sep 26, 2010, 05:02 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Patron means more than monetary support. Obama's career and it's direction was orchestrated by Ayers .

    Hello again, tom:

    You righty's just keep making up stuff, don't you? It ain't going to work, though.

    excon
  • Sep 27, 2010, 04:18 AM
    tomder55

    Just connecting the dots... doing the job the press used to do or would've done had they taken the time to put down their pom poms
  • Sep 27, 2010, 08:43 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    pom poms

    pom pom = an automatic rapid-firing, small-calibre cannon, esp a type of anti-aircraft cannon used in World War II

    pom pon = a decorative ball of fluff, often shaken by cheerleaders

    Just wondering which you mean...
  • Sep 27, 2010, 09:16 AM
    speechlesstx
    I'm just going to come right out and ask, why do you guys defend this terrorist scumbag?
  • Sep 27, 2010, 09:30 AM
    NeedKarma
    I don't see any defending in this thread, I see people correcting you and tom on the link you are making that isn't there.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 09:51 AM
    tomder55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    pom pom = an automatic rapid-firing, small-calibre cannon, esp a type of anti-aircraft cannon used in World War II

    pom pon = a decorative ball of fluff, often shaken by cheerleaders

    Just wondering which you mean....

    I believe you know which definition I mean.

    Former Manhattan Borough President Percy Sutton confirmed that al Mansour helped Obama get into Harvard (maybe Sutton was lying too) .

    From there ,the dots connect as al Mansour has clear links to Ayers . Every other aspect of Obama's rise has an Ayers connection.
    Too many ships sailing in the same sea to be a coincidence.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 09:55 AM
    NeedKarma
    http://urbanflyventures.com/wp-conte...Conspiracy.jpg
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:00 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I don't see any defending in this thread, I see people correcting you and tom on the link you are making that isn't there.

    That's funny, I don't see me making any link so that would be you making a link that isn't there.

    If it makes you feel better I'll rephrase, why are you guys apologists for this terrorist scumbag?
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:03 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    That's funny, I don't see me making any link so that would be you making a link that isn't there.

    Well then if there is no link between Ayers and Obama this is a non-thread.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    why are you guys apologists for this terrorist scumbag

    Once again I see no one doing that in this thread.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Well then if there is no link between Ayers and Obama this is a non-thread.

    NK, the only thing irrelevant here are your contributions to this thread.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:11 AM
    NeedKarma
    If you have to post that derogatory comment then I guess I won. :)
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:19 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    If you have to post that derogatory comment then I guess I won. :)

    If it makes you feel better, OK.

    Now, why do you guys defend this terrorist scumbag?

    "Ayers is denied because of personal spite?"

    "Doesn't seem ummmm ethical."
    -Wondergirl

    That's a defense, and I'll phrase the question how I please.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:29 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    "Ayers is denied because of personal spite?"

    "Doesn't seem ummmm ethical."
    -Wondergirl

    She seems to be commenting the reason for a university to deny a promotion. Not a defense or support of a terrorist. Kind of like if you were denied a promotion because you spraypainted the company's wall when you were 18. If someone said that seemed unethical no one would scream "WHY ARE PEOPLE DEFENDING THIS NEOCON?????"
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:40 AM
    Wondergirl

    I agree that Ayers should not have been named emeritus, but the reason why it was done was all wrong. It reminded me of how we ended up in Iraq.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:45 AM
    tomder55

    Well that's a Kennedy for you. They support terrorists until one of their own get's wacked .
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:47 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Well that's a Kennedy for ya. They support terrorists until one of their own get's wacked .

    Ayers should not be named professor emeritus. Why not?
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:53 AM
    tomder55

    Because he should not be a professor . Because he is a poor representative for the University with his continued terror supporting ,and his past terrorist activities. Because his terrorist activities led to his direct and/or indirect culpability in murder .
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:54 AM
    speechlesstx

    Bombing the Capitol, the Pentagon, police stations, robbing banks and murder vs. graffiti. No I don't see how one's kind of like the other.

    The facts is, William Ayers and his wife are unrepentant terrorists who engaged in a self-declared war against their country, yet have been embraced with open arms by the left. Why?
  • Sep 27, 2010, 10:59 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    The facts is, William Ayers and his wife are unrepentant terrorists who engaged in a self-declared war against their country, yet have been embraced with open arms by the left. Why?

    Making stuff up again I see.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 11:06 AM
    tomder55

    Nothing made up in Steve's reply. Ayers bragged about his terrorism in his memoir . 'Fugitive Days'. He was interviewed by the NY Slimes about the book and his quote that he wished he'd done more bombing. The Slimes made it their front page story on 9-11-01.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 11:09 AM
    NeedKarma
    It's on the front page so you conclude the "left embraces him"? Ignorance abounds here.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 11:14 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    William Ayers and his wife are unrepentant [domestic] terrorists

    There you go! I agree. He was an arrogant rich kid caught up in the times (which I happily was slightly too old to get caught up in). But he's never repented, never said he's sorry. Even though he occasionally comes up with some good ideas about how to educate, that doesn't erase the rest of what he stands for.

    P.S. The "left" doesn't embrace him.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 11:16 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    It's on the front page so you conclude the "left embraces him"? Ignorance abounds here.

    Pay attention, NK, even Wondergirl noted how he hosted "Obama's first neighborhood "meet and greet the presidential candidate" event." I'd say hosting the future president is an embrace.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 11:18 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Pay attention, NK, even Wondergirl noted how he hosted "Obama's first neighborhood "meet and greet the presidential candidate" event." I'd say hosting the future president is an embrace.

    AND that was because they lived in the same neighborhood and not because they were best friends. Do you know all your neighbors intimately? I don't even know the people on my own block!

    If I thought one of my neighbors might have a chance to become president of the U.S. I'd kick in $200 bucks and my living room.
  • Sep 27, 2010, 11:23 AM
    tomder55

    The question is why would the President agree to it knowing the history of Ayers ? Answer Because he "owes " him.

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