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Will Republicans RETAKE the Senate?

Hello:

It LOOKED like they would until recent primary's. Having lost 2 elections, Republicans decided it was because they weren't conservative enough. So, they started the Tea Party, and the Tea Party has been winning primary's.

That's been both good and bad for them. Senator Harry Reid in Nevada was headed for certain defeat, but has been revived by the extreme right wing views of his opponent, Sharron Angle... And, what was a certain Republican victory in Delaware for Joe Biden's Senate seat, now looks like a winner for the Democrat for the same reasons - the extreme right wing views of his opponent, Christine O'Donnell.

Those two seats are pivotal in the Republicans quest to retake the Senate. Did they shoot themselves in the foot?

excon

I posted what could be my reply moments ago.

Hello tom:

Yes, you did. So you think they'll WIN. They sure could.

excon

Ex the GOP should be concerned about their very existence as a viable party.

I would remind them that they were not around at the founding . They formed under a single issue and began to draw membership from both existing parties.

They eventually ,and swiftly drew enough membership from the Whigs that the Whigs ceased to exist.
That could be the price the Republicans pay if they don't rapidly adopt and absorb the issues of the Tea Party.

I rightly question their relevance if they refuse to do so. Without the issues the Tea Party runs on ,the Republicans become nothing more than Democrat-lite.

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Without the issues the Tea Party runs on ,the Republicans become nothing more than Democrat-lite.

Hello again, tom:

We're on the same page. If the right wing of the Republican party wins, I believe there'll be a commensurate move to the left for the Democrats. They'll probably shed Republidems like Ben Nelson, Max Baucus, and that guy Lieberman.

Then, the parties will actually offer different solutions... You'll either see a roll back of Obamacare / Wall Street reform, and the like, or a rollback of the Bush/Cheney surveillance / Gitmo / torture / looking forward and not backward policy that Obama FULLY embraced.

I LIKE those choices. I'll bet you do too.

excon

Yup... it's open season on DINO's and RINO's

Best line of the night... Paladino called Andrew Cuomo "status Cuomo"

I can't explain Angle and I know little about O'Donnell, but what exactly are her extreme right-wing views, that she wants to make vibrators and masturbation illegal? That's what they're saying about her at Huffpo and I don't believe there's a grain of truth to it. The left is already in full combat mode to destroy this woman's character and that's what she's up against.

As much as you think Republicans have shot themselves in the foot the left is doing the same with their behavior, which I believe America is fed up with.

Hello Steve:

I wasn't SAYING that Republicans shot themselves in the foot. I was asking. It may work out for them.

Of course, I don't know if O'Donnell plans to outlaw dildos or not. I know she's against whacking off - PERIOD. I think that's a pretty extreme view. You? Come on, Steve. You can tell me. You've touched yourself, haven't you?

excon

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Of course, I don't know if O'Donnell plans to outlaw dildos or not.

That's my question, what is so 'politically' extreme about her, is she going to get a fair shake? No, she won't. She said some things about her religious views as a Catholic in 1998. So she actually sees her marriage as sacred and adheres to her Catholic faith as opposed to Pelosi, so what?

If she says that masturbation is a sin ,she is stating well established Christian belief . I see nothing in her rhetoric to suggest she would introduce legislation to outlaw it . Any suggestion to the contrary is over the top distortion.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

If she says that masturbation is a sin

Hello again, tom:

She's saying MORE than it's a sin. Lots of Christians SAY it's a sin, and whack off that night. SHE doesn't, and she doesn't want you too either... In her prior life she worked for an organization that promoted NOT touching yourself...

Do I think she might attempt to make whacking off ILLEGAL? I don't know. What?? You think she WOULDN'T?? Neither of us know. All I know is she doesn't LIKE it, and in short order, she might have an opportunity to DO something about it.

That's the kind of stuff you get when you elect unknown's. You don't know if they're going to turn into socialists, or make jerking off illegal.

excon

She'll be one of 100... give me a break ! This is Rachel Madcow trying to define her as extremist for having mainstream beliefs.Pure character assassination. I expect it from the Dems . What bothers me is when I hear it from Republicans like Rove targeting their own.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

What bothers me is when I hear it from Republicans like Rove targetting their own.

Hello again, tom:

Yeah... Whoda figured Turdblossom and Madcow would agree about her?

excon

PS> You're not saying, are you, that nobody has to worry about a rogue senator because there's a 100 of 'em?? Would you buy that if I said it?? Nahhh. You wouldn't.

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don’t stand in the doorway
Don’t block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There’s a battle outside
And it is ragin’
It’ll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin’.

Hello again, tom:

It's cool. I detect a new business opportunity, though.. I'm going to invent a whacking off test. It'll be a wipe that turns a certain color if you've been pleasuring yourself.

Going to make a fortune!

excon

Lol... pass everyone through those new improved TSA scanners.

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I can't explain Angle

Doesn't matter what she thinks .Harry Reid will campaign in NV with his fleet of SUVs and make the case for cap and tax.
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Originally Posted by excon

It's cool. I detect a new business opportunity, though..

Taking matters into your own hands are you?

Republicans are trouble now, the Democrats have a plan that promises to “excite Democrats across the country.”

They have a new logo.

http://assets.democrats.org/images/b...t-logo_tag.gif

They're all Zeroes now.

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Republicans are trouble now, the Democrats have a plan that promises to “excite Democrats across the country.”

They have a new logo.

http://assets.democrats.org/images/b...t-logo_tag.gif

They're all Zeroes now.

Ooooh, Lookie, a target.

Back to the OP. The Republicans went all out in Delaware to endorse a loyal RINO ;and he lost fair and square. Now ,just like in Fla and Alaska the candidates who thought they were entitled to the nomination are having temper tantrums.

Crist in Fla. Is mounting an independent bid ,Lisa Murkowski is considering a write in challenge ,and Mike Castle is holding his breath until he's blue ,and is not endorsing the legitimate Republican candidate.

I remind them that for years the leadership and Republican electorate held their noses while doing everything possible to get their nominees elected regardless of their ideological differences. Heck ,Repubulican voters in Pa. had to carry barf bags into the polling places to cast their ballots for ex-Specter . (come to think of it ,he was not exactly a gracious loser either).

There were suggestions immediately after the results came in that the Senate Republican Election Committee would not contribute funds for O'Donnell's campaign. Wisely they reconsidered .They want tea-partiers to go to the polls in November to support all their standard bearers . They didn't dare dismiss the Delaware campaign and risk the tea party fury.
O'Donnell is a long shot it's true. But a ripple becomes a wave ,becomes a tsunami . It is not unheard of for long shots to win. So the Republicans should redouble their efforts . They still can take the Senate.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

So the Republicans should redouble their efforts . They still can take the Senate.

Hello tom:

They could have, if Karl Rove didn't hand them a nice TV commercial to use. But, it wouldn't surprise me if she did win. She can actually put two words together, unlike Sarah Baracuda, or is it Sarah Grizzly??

excon

Her opponent has handed over a nice TV commercial to use, also.

“Chris Coons: The Making of a Bearded Marxist.”

Rove is a lot like Richard Morris. He hitched a ride on the Bush bandwagon and Morris on the Clintoon . I get the impression that they could have easily and comfortably, if the situation was different ,worked for the other side.
They both believe there are fixed constituencies and the goal is to woo the middle independent undecideds using a so called 'big tent' strategery . I prefer someone who tells everyone what they are about and tries to persuade them that they have a better way; instead of treating politics like it is a booth in a bizzaar with fundamental postions to be negotiated for the best price.

Steve , don't make fun of Harry Reid's pet.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Steve , don't make fun of Harry Reid's pet.

Is he a Chia Marxist?

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Is he a Chia Marxist?

Cha cha cha Chia!

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Rove's new line is that he is a contributing analyst and as such he has to be objective.
My observation is that tokyo Rove went a little too viral to make that claim. It made no sense for him to continue his attacks after the primary results were in unless this was more personal than he'd like to admit.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

Rove's new line is that he is a contributing analyst and as such he has to be objective.
My observation is that tokyo Rove went a little too viral to make that claim. It made no sense for him to continue his attacks after the primary results were in unless this was more personal than he'd like to admit.

One pundit on the radio was saying that Rove, like Morris, sees a danger to the profession of political consultant in all these "upstart" tea party candidates. Ironic, that, since O'donnell's been running for office for, what, 12 years now?

Yeah... Republicans have it all wrong... thats why Ted Kennedys old seat is now filled with a republican... THe NJ Governors office is now held by a Republican (both LONG time democrat seats)... and a whole lote more coming.

Actually the people of Jersey have had Republican Guvs from time to time . Tom Kean and Chris Todd Whitman were both Republicans . Chris Christe is by far the best

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Actually the people of Jersey have had Republican Guvs from time to time . Tom Kean and Chris Todd Whitman were both Republicans . Chris Christe is by far the best

Yeah.. but its been a Blue state for a while... not a red one.

Hello again,

Last night, Obama attended a $30,000 a plate dinner in Connecticut, where he further dissed his base. This is what he said:

"Democrats, just congenitally, tend to get -- to see the glass as half empty. If we get an historic health care bill passed -- oh, well, the public option wasn't there. If you get the financial reform bill passed -- then, well, I don't know about this particular derivatives rule, I'm not sure that I'm satisfied with that. And gosh, we haven't yet brought about world peace and -- I thought that was going to happen quicker. You know who you are. We have had the most productive, progressive legislative session in at least a generation."

In other words, I'm just a petulant, unreasonable, unrealistic, fringe child who doesn't appreciate the greatness and generosity he's given me. Contrary to what I may have thought, it's these flaws within myself that causes me to be dissatisfied with the administration.

You know what? I'm not excited about voting (assuming I could vote).

excon

Obama: "how can they not appreciate my greatness? "
Michelle : "That's why this job sucks"

It's stuff like that which leads me to believe he won't do a Clintoon triangulation if the Republicans gain control of Congress. Instead ,the White House is irked at the Blue Dogs because they aren't rolling over on the tax cuts like they did with Obamacare ,cash for clunkers ,and the bucket list .

The truth is that you will find no Democrat in a close election district this year bragging on their legislative achievements. The President sent them away with their banner for this election "we suck ..the Republicans are worse".

As for Ex's original comment.
You make the common mistake of many when you assume that the "tea party" (which is not a party at all) is Republican. It is not. Those in the "tea party" are made up of people who see clearly the direction that we are being shoved, and we don't like it, not a bit. We have come to the point that we realize that it does no good to elect a Republican if that candidate is not going to support what we believe in. The tactics seem clear enough to me. Take over the Republican party. We think it can be done, and we think conservative candidates can win over tax, tax and spend, spend leftists. The vote this year will have a lot of protest in it. You know, throw the bums out, anybody is better than they are.

Alan "Republicans want you to die quickly" Grayson is demonstrating the Democrats' strategy for this election. First, his opponent is a "draft dodger."

Except he's not a draft dodger, he received academic deferments while serving in the ROTC in college and was medically ineligible after college. But that ad has nothing on this one, now Grasyon's opponent is "Taliban Dan."

Grayson is a pig, and I hope the voters put him back in the sty where he belongs where he can wallow in all the mud he wants.

Maybe he and O'Donnell can have some crazy lovechild in that sty as she belongs in a mix of sty and loonybin.

O'Donnell has done nothing to deserve that attack, Grayson has.

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O'Donnell has done nothing to deserve that attack, Grayson has.

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