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Last night Comedy Central would not let South Park say the name Mohammed or show him. If you ask me the Terrorists won. But July 2001 there was episode 504 the Super Best Friends They "showed" Mohammed!! So what do you say did the terrorist take away our free speech? I know SP is an offensive show but to me they represent free speech in America.
YouTube - South Park Mohammed
They were just scared, But yes, that means the terrorist won
When Salman Rushdie got the fatwa in 1988 for writing about Mohammed the libs all rallied in support of him. Many took the bold step of reading it publicly out loud in symbolic support.
These days you can in the name of art do the most vile things to Christian images. You can even get state funding for it. But Mohmammed depicted in any way seen unfavorable provokes a violent reaction by jihadistan.
The popular culture cowers at such a reaction and appeases . Menawhile the Pope makes a controversial quote from the past about Mohammed and is condemned even though by all appearances it is accurate.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached" (Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologus )
This condemnation of the Pope came even though in the next paragraph he completes the quote (the part the dinosaur media left out )
God is not pleased by blood, and not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death....
Comedy Central is spineless. They apparently pick low hanging fruit and cower when confronted .
Yep, I mentioned yesterday that Comedy Central caved. I guess they're not as edgy as they thought they were, the spineless twits.
So what is edgy to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
The Southpark creators issued a statement:
Kudos to Matt Stone and Trey Parker for calling out the network. Meanwhile, Glenn Reynolds has the ultimate commentary on the situation:Quote:
In the 14 years we’ve been doing South Park we have never done a show that we couldn’t stand behind. We delivered our version of the show to Comedy Central and they made a determination to alter the episode. It wasn’t some meta-joke on our part. Comedy Central added the bleeps. In fact, Kyle’s customary final speech was about intimidation and fear. It didn’t mention Muhammad at all but it got bleeped too. We’ll be back next week with a whole new show about something completely different and we’ll see what happens to it.
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Obviously, Christians — and Sarah Palin fans, and lovers of My Mother The Car — should take heed of this incentive system our modern media is creating. Don’t want things you treasure satirized? Just issue a “prediction” and — voilà! Meanwhile, note how entirely real radical Muslim threats and violence are treated as just part of the weather — something you have to adapt to — while nonexistent Tea Party violence is an existential threat to the Republic.
But here’s a warning of my own: Those who have no backbone will do the bidding of those who do.
It's easy to be edgy when you're a stand-up comedian and you are your own business. It's different when you are under the banner of a corporation that has shareholders. However Tim & Eric are pretty out there. :) and Robot Chicken does some wild satire
How ironic that the conservative is slamming the corporation while you defend it.
How did I defend it? They make a business decision, that's all. If you don't like it unsubscribe from the channel. Adding a bleep made no difference to my life, did it to yours?
Don't let the terrorists win!
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Yep, really dissapointed that they bleeped out all the mohammed refferences.
Didn't this already happen with the episode that made fun of Family Guy? Mohammad in a salmon helmet.
Yes, this is the second time Comedy Central caved to the Jihadists.
Hello:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
When, in response to 9/11, your own president attacks the Constitution taking away the freedoms he said the attackers hate us for, THAT is when the terrorists won.
Comedy Central ain't doing nothing YOU right wingers didn't do.
excon
If that is so, why aren't you joining us in saying no more instead of just whining about Bush?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Because with Comedy central you can just change the channel or no longer carry the channel. Not so with a political party in power.Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
So, in the last few years, you didn't hear me saying no more to torture, indefinite detention, extraordinary rendition, illegal spying, or military tribunals?? I guess not.
excon
That Lego cartoon was hilarious.
The South Park issue reminds me of the murder of Theo Van Gogh in the Netherlands. He was a filmmaker who allegedly defamed Islam, funny how telling the truth about radical Islam is offensive to Muslims. The West has to stop caving in to Muslims or they will think they can rule our society. Political correctness is destroying the West, look how bad England has become. Read Mark Steyn's article in this week's Maclean's.
So because Democrats are in power excon can't protest government policies? That makes a lot of sense... but totally in line with the view that dissent is good under Bush, bad under Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Sure, but what does that have to do with saying no MORE taking away our freedoms?Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello again, Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
You have a short memory. I deplore Obama's continuation of the Bush detention policies, his illegal spying policies, his war in Afghanistan, his killing by drone, his targeting of Americans, and his weak health care law. I didn't hesitate to post about it either.
I guess you were on vacation when all that was going on.
excon
"In support of Matt Stone and Trey Parker and in opposition to religious thuggery," I give you the First Annual Everybody Draw Mohammad Day.
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I love it!
Hello Steve:Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
I don't love it. To ME, the ones to go after are the thugs themselves, which is a particular group in NY, rather than the religion. That's just me.
excon
Ex, as a Christian I have insults thrown in my face every day in most every way imaginable. Perhaps it's time Islam learns how to "get over it."
It is exactly the response that is needed ;simular to the author's public support by reading 'Satanic Verses' out loud , after Rushdie was threatened .
How do people know that you're a christian? Do you have a tattoo on your face?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Speaking of responses to Muslim extremists, remember that Ayatollah that warned of immodest women creating earthquakes? An Indiana woman who came up with a response may have inadvertently proved him right.
Boobquake Triggers 6.5 Magnitude Quake Off Taiwan
I'm with JWF, we may need to study the evidence further. :D
Hello again, tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I don't know. You have a choice of going after the actual PEOPLE who did this, or going after their RELIGION. You choose their religion. Kind of gives credence to their claim that the US is warring against Islam.
excon
I'm on the fence about this one. It would be nice if muslims would come out and denounce these people but it rarely happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Hello NK:
One Muslim is.
excon
Kurt Westergaard ;the author of the Danish cartoons was attacked with an ax in his home by jihadists. His employer's response ? They put him on indefinite leave for security reasons . That's showing support!
No Ex . It is a statement that the West will not be intimidated by jihadists. If a Muslim is offended by that they should react the same way Catholics and other Christians react when mocked by the popular culture.Grin and bear it. They should understand that our standing in solidarity with the writers of South Park (as much as I think they are morons) is not a reaction against Islam but against jihadistan . What will they do in response ? Issue another Fatwa ? We all already live under a number of them just for not surrendering willingly to dhimmitude.
I still don't get this baloney. South Park lambastes everyone from Jesus to the Virgin Mary, the Jews, Christianity, gays, Buddists, the Pope, Scientology, Tom Cruise, Hilary Clinton, even the Special Olympics, etc. and no one gets bent out of shape and changes any episodes. But heaven forbid that someone mentions the "M" word and all hell breaks loose and everyone goes into apology mode and cowtows to these people. Is it because they are terrorists and everyone is afraid that they'll be bombed or shot or whatever? If everyone took South Park seriously then that show would be cancelled. There are some episodes I don't particularly care for but others are a real laugh. Why must we tip toe around anything Muslim? Or are they super humans or super elites?
I believe south park had it right where they thought mohammad has some sort of 'goo' that means people can't make fun of him.
Denounce which people?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
As a muslim,personally, I wouldn't watch something that insults Jesus or Muhammad (peace be upon them). And no I would not be apologetic for the ones who raise their voice against making fun of any of the Prophets.
I have heard that a singer was banned from performing in Sri Lanka, because one of his videos depict him in an insulting way in front of the Buddha. Do they have to apologise for it,of course not, if they find it insulting they can take an action against it.
I do not support violence,but there are different levels of disliking something as far as my beliefs go.
There is the choice of actually getting something done to stop the wrong that is being done either by protest or some other peaceful/legal mean, then there is the choice of raising our voices against it, the least is hating it within our hearts. I am one of those people that usually opts for the least, but there will always be those who are willing to raise their voices against anything that they deem to be wrong.
As long as they do not resort to violence I do not see the wrong in it.
Those who insult others will continue to do it,whether we raise our voices or not, for those who take back their insults, thank you, for whatever reason it is that you took it back, I as a muslim am thankful that there will one less to insult us.
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Hi firm,Quote:
Originally Posted by firmbeliever
Denounce the ones who intend to kill people for displaying an image or cartoon of a person.
NK.
Hi Nk,
The correct actions for a muslim to take in such cases is not bloodshed or destroy property and referring such matters for scholars to deal with is better than taking the law into their own hands.
Killing is not the answer or threatening to kill is not the answer.
The thing about Fatwas is that the salaf, the Sahaabah and Taabi’een (the companions of the Prophet (pbuh) and the best generation of muslims) used to regard it as makrooh(disliked act) to rush to issue fatwas.
And I for one as a muslim will not watch a program which insults Prophets,Messengers.
Each to their own, I believe everyone will receive their due when the time comes,whether one is a believer or not,so I leave those that throw insults to the Most Just.
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Firm
The problem is that it is the radical jihadists that have seized the message. That is why the rest of Islam should stand in solidarity against them in unambiguous terms .
I... I... agree! :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
See we can work together sometimes!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
2nd Casablanca quote of the day
I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship
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