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Hello:
Bill O'Reilly goes after lenient judges in this country who give passes to child molesters... Did he send a crew to the Vatican to ambush the Pope? Did he call for the Pop's resignation? I wonder if that has anything to do with him being a Catholic and stuff? Nahhh.. He's not a hypocrite.
Bwa, ha ha ha ha.
excon
I don't speak for O'Reilley ,but my take has not changed since the revelations in the US . Any priest involved is a criminal who should be handed over to the authorities . Any senior member of the hierarchy involved in a coverup is equally a criminal .
Hello tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Well, I can see that you're NOT Catholic.
excon
Been Catholic all my life
I like how the Pope is calling the accusations "Petty Gossip". Yeah that's real nice Buddy. A priest in Wisconsin molested over 200 deaf boys and they knew and what did they do NOTHING! It doesn't get much lower then that.
I will not even try to defend the indefensible.
On the occasions I have seen O'Reilly I haven't seen him shy away from taking on anyone. In fact, just for you I've dug up a transcript where he took the subject on in 2002. How did he become your target in this?
Because he broadcasts on FOX .Quote:
how did he become your target in this?
You're right, tom, I forget. Actually, I just don't think that way, I see no need to project the blame for something as hideous as pedophilia onto someone else.
Did you even read the transcript? All he wants is for the priests caught molesting children and the cardinals protecting them to resign - that's it!Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
NK, once and for all you can safely assume I've read what I'm posting. This is the relevant portion to my answer:Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
As for your complaint, it requires the context:Quote:
O’REILLY: Second of all, even if it's molesting a 14- or 15-year-old, it's a heinous crime...
MCGOWAN: Absolutely.
O’REILLY:... it's a heinous crime
MCGOWAN: Absolutely.
O’REILLY: So you can cut, you know, split hairs, pedophilia, pederasts, you can do all of that stuff. The bottom line is that this scandal would never have come to the light if not for The Boston Globe and then subsequent follow-ups from people like me. Wouldn't you agree?
MCGOWAN: I agree, and I think you guys should be applauded for that...
O’REILLY: Well, we're not being applauded...
MCGOWAN: ... I think it's...
O’REILLY: ... we're being condemned...
Sounds to me like he's complaining that they're getting away with the cover-up legally and on top of that don't even have the moral fortitude to resign. He deserves credit for this, not ridicule.Quote:
O’REILLY: The big story here is that cardinals, all right, with tremendous power have been able to circumvent the law in this country and have prosecutors cowers before them, senators cower before them. And these cardinals, supposed to be pillars of morality, are so arrogant they won't resign after they allow the pedophiles, the Geoghans, the Shanleys, to run around, still won't resign. That's the big story here.
How come he has done no follow-ups? The problem never went away.
You assume too much. I don't have time to find every instance of O'Reilly addressing this, that's why the single post showing he has taken this on from the beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Why hasn't Katie Couric taken this up as a cause? If she can peel herself away from her Obama blow up doll long enough. Or does CBS not care about Child molestors... or PBS... or NBC... or ABC. Because none of them are making it an issue.
Perhaps Obama condones it as well, because we haven't heard him speak up about it... he does need to be on TV every single day to satisfy his obsession... surely he could have found time to say something if he cared.
CBS is too busy doing hard hitting interviews of Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
They must be working really hard on the editing... because none of them have aired yet. THe only thing I've seen on CBS so far is ever continuing Obama campaign propaganda... didn't anyone inform them the election is over yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by speechlesstx
Hey don't you guys go to church? Why aren't you doing something about it. Smoothy you have made it quite clear you don't need any help from anyone so get off your tea bag and do something.
And were are the investigations of the boy scouts and the molesting issues there, now that their "secret files" have been brought to light
I'm not catholic... and while I don't support clild abuse... American abuse by the left is a far more pressing cause to focus on.
Way to spin it Smoothy. So you are Rabble but no action got it. Fr Chuck I have always had my suspicions boy scouts that's why I joined the basketball team and not the scouts.
THey are trying to shift focus from the contents of the Health care bill they forced down out throats that was so secret when it was being written until AFTER they used cheats lies and trickery to pass it under reconciliation which does not apply to it at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
Fact is they are actively screwing the working half the population and trying to convince that thinking half the public that its somehow good for them they are getting anally raped... without the courtesy of a reacharound.
THAT is a far bigger deal than a few kids getting molested.
Like them pointing fingers at the store to distract the guards saying look, that kids stealing candy, while they are hauling Big screen TV's out of the store while the guard is distracted.
Smoothy why don't you ask one of the 200 deaf boys Rev. Lawrence Murphy molested from 1957-1975 what they think the bigger deal is.
I'm not worrying about small issues while there are far bigger and more important things to worry about.Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
Worrying about what ONE person has or hasn't said while the entire drive by media pays no attention to the topic EXACTLY WHILE the biggest theft to Americans who work and a threat to Americans fredom and income is what spin is.
In short... At least he said something... Why aren't Obamas Propagandists at CBS, CNN, NBC, PBS and ABC saying anything at all?. and even more, why is THAT not bothering the left? Maybe because there is an agenda behind it lead by the Aetheists in the party?
Smoothy You do you care about money more then you care about about people?
I don't watch any of the so called news stations you have listed above so I don't know why they haven't said anything about it. I can only control me and I actually did something about the molesting I formally left the church years ago and wrote a scathing letter to the Archdioceses. You on the other hand just b*tch on a website.
Its MY money, I earned it... you are damn tootin. Let them spend their own. They AREN'T entitled to mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
They have money to club.. they have money for cell phones for everyone... they have money to eat out, then they have money to get insurance.
I'm NOT the original poster... thats who was bellyaching about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
I've never been a Catholic... I've never subscribed to the Catholic way of doing things. I've always been a Protestant.
Do you even watch the news at all? Because I basically named 99% of the news you will see on TV, in the USA anyway.
It strange smoothy cause you and I pretty much took the same road to get to where we are today. I have been working since I was 12 years old. My family was poor we never went on vacations (maybe a day trip to the Jersey shore). I worked all through out high school (and sold candy out of my back pack) and college I got accepted into Penn and I had to work even harder to make it through there. My parents helped out as much as they could but it was me doing my school work and working 3 different jobs.
I feel like I am in a position to help people. If that means take a little more out of my pay check that is cool with me. Cause you know what next week I'll get another check. I hate my lazy brother in law (wifes brother) but I love his kids and if they need help I help them. Even though his punk@$$ doesn't do ish all day his kids don't deserve to suffer cause he is a lazy @$$hole.
Spit ;re your question about what I as a Catholic have done :
I can't speak for anyone else but I am a member of the laity organization called 'Voice of the Faithful',and have been a member since they first formed .
I really do not support all their initiatives for the American Catholic church ;but they have been at the forefront in dealing with this issue from the parishioner perspective.
Here is their resolution about the Catholic Bishops
Voice Of the Faithful
NO I don't not watch network news there is no point. I don't need to be spoon fed "news" they want me to know. I research independently get the facts from both sides then I make a decision. Apparently you let them spoon feed you even if it makes you sick.
Well since they have been giving people SSI that never paid into the system... ever... giving it to illegals who never paid in... giving it to people who may have worked a couple years then collect...Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
Its unlikely to be around when I hit retirement age. Don't really know your age differential from me... but I'm trying all I can to put money away so I won't have to work until I die just to have a roof over my head and a hot meal. And I am not able to do it fast enough to meet projections of what I need at that point. I've had arthritis for the last 10 years... And unless they find a cure for that.(which WON'T happen under Obamacare) .its only going to get worse.
THere certainly isn't any extra to be taken to give to a high school dropout that never finished anything in their life... much less understands what sacrifice is, or to live within their means.
Screw them... because nobody has done squat to help me the last 48 years except my parents. THey chose their path... they need to be happy with it. They aren't entitled to MY earnings too. I need them.
If that sounds cold... then so be it.
Nobody else has helped me... why do THEY feel they are entitled to it. Who is going to make sure I have what I need then? The deadbeats who would receive that certainly won't.
Don't know but a few people who have sworn off TV... guess that list increased by one.
I understand your point and I respect it. I guess we just focus on different things you focus on all the @$$holes who don't deserve the help and I agree they shouldn't be helped out. But they also have kids that didn't ask to be here or have parents who are @$$holes. Or the single father who's wife died who has done everything right in life but just got dealt a bum hand who needs the help. I guess it is just a glass half full half empty mentality
Well, THEY had the kids... THEY have to work two jobs if that's what it takes to support them. I have my own bills, my own obligations that I have to pay for. I can't afford someone else's obligations or mistakes. My responsibility #1 being is to provide for my own retirement after meeting my other bills... seeing as the Government made it conducive for businesses to get rid of pensions we no longer have a choice. And they wasted SSI money on NON-SSI things for decades so now what was paid to it isn't there for SSI which is what it was paid for in the first place. 14% of out income that ammounts to MORE than most people can afford to put aside for their future, considering they bankrupted it... just like they bankrupted Medicare and Medicaid.Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
Nobody starves to death for lack of food in the USA. But they aren't entitled to restaurant meals at the establishment of their choice.
Yes I do know many people whining about not having money... but they have three cars in the household... Cable TV, everyone has their own cell phone... and they have a game console and games... ever see what people buy for food using food stamps? Seriously look the first couple days of the month... more junk food than I could afford to buy... if I ate that much junk food. 90% of the problems that group has are caused by their own behaviour. I grew up in PA around a LOT of welfare recipients... I've seen this with my own eyes. And yeah... I knew a lot of them too. Part of the reason I left that state.
A LOT of the poor are poor due to poor life choices they make... but yeah... a few just have bad luck. But handouts never help anyone... otherwise nobody would be on welfare long... much less for generations.
Like the saying goes... give a man a fish, he eats today... teach a man to fish, he can feed himself.
Throwing money at a problem never fixes the problem.
Thought you might enjoy this, ex, it appeared in my paper today:
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The Catholic Quandary
By Bill O'Reilly
Thursday, April 1, 2010
Over the years, I have occasionally written about being a practicing Roman Catholic, a fact that sometimes leads to incredulous statements like "YOU go to church?" Somehow, I don't believe the question is a compliment.
This is a tough Holy Week for Catholics, as once again the terrible specter of child molestation is in the air. Driven by a series of articles by the New York Times, the church now faces questions about whether Pope Benedict XVI ignored some past abuse cases when he was a cardinal. The evidence is scant, but damning anyway, because of the previous priest-pedophilia scandals.
A number of Catholics have left the church because of the priestly sins, but not me. From the beginning, in Sister Claudia's first grade class, I understood that the Catholic Church was about Jesus, not Father Flannery. Believe me, I saw so many loons in my Catholic school days that I should be a Buddhist. But it is the theology, not church leadership, that keeps me in the fold.
You may remember that I was a driving force in bringing down the villainous Cardinal Law in Boston, a man who allowed child molesting priests to run wild. When Law was forced to resign, I was happy. But then the late Pope John Paul II gave him a cushy job in Rome, where he remains today. If it were up to me, the cardinal would be in prison.
Even though I respected Pope John Paul's holiness, I was deeply disappointed that he did not meet with molestation victims when he visited the United States in 1999. The pope should have done that simply to show devastated American Catholics, and the victims themselves, that he cared and understood their pain. When I publicly criticized Pope John Paul for avoiding the issue, the Catholic League scorched me. And that's fine. They are entitled to their opinion.
Throughout it all, however, I stayed with the church. If you cut through all the bull, the doctrines of treating others as you want to be treated, forgiveness and redemption, and charity for all stand the test of time. Even if the atheists are right and there is no God, the philosophy of Jesus is full-force positive. Live the way he lived, and the world will be a better place.
The actions of others must be considered, of course. But I like this analogy: We've had some pretty bad leaders in America, right? Do they make you want to renounce your citizenship? The United States is not the people who lead it. It is all of us.
Same thing with the Catholic Church. It's not corrupt priests or apathetic leaders in Rome. It's Jesus and his followers, the folks who sit in the pews on Sunday. And that's good enough for me.
I feel sorry for you smoothy. Life isn't all about money.
Really... so send me some of yours. I have a lot of bills to pay. And they really don't care about hearing ," sorry, I don't have it this month".Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
Don't like THAT idea? So how is that different from what YOU support. Except they are taking it from me via threats abnd intimidation, in total disregard if I NEED that to pay my own bills and obligations.
Now hypothetically... how is that different than a mugger on the street taking it?
And why are you not entitled to send me part of your paycheck? Other than the Democrats belief that their money is theirs, and your money is theirs... their money isn't yours however.
I'm curious... HOW much of your hard earned income would you personally consider too much? Knowing its going to people that will not get a job and feel entitled to free money?
But this really has swayed off topic... from a couple of pedophile Priests in the Catholic Church, that really is pretty big. Statistically it is a tiny percentage. THere is a far high percentage of crooks in politics... and a VERY high percentage of tax cheats in the current presidential cabinet... and list of appointees. We here little outrage over.
But then... Barney Frank is still in office, so is Charels Rangal... thats really not all that much different or better.
Not saying what the priests in question did was at all justifiable ( it never is, and they should have been tossed out when it happened)... just pointing out that selectively singling out one small group to be upset about while ignoring in your face corruption makes it hard to take them seriously.
You make too much money for me to send you any. I can go up another couple of hundred and that would be cool with me.
Sooooooo how do you know I don't make less than you and need it more than you? ( no real numbers... I'm speaking hypothetically) what we each make or not is not for public consumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by spitvenom
Who should make that call, and why should they exempt themselves from the laws they force the rest of us to live with..
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