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Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize!
I posted a link, you can read more there.
The Nobel committee jumped the shark years ago awarding it to Arafat. Obama is in good company.
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tomder55
The Nobel committee jumped the shark years ago awarding it to Arafat. Obama is in good company.
LOL! Lots of people guessed correctly that that's the first thing the righties would say. You lockstep with them. Hehe.
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NeedKarma
LOL! Lots of people guessed correctly that that's the first thing the righties would say. You lockstep with them. Hehe.
Who is lots of people?
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zippit
for doing what?
For campaigning, that's about all he had accomplished at the time of the nominations.
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speechlesstx
Who is lots of people?
Obama wins 2009 Nobel Peace Prize
I knew I was nauseous this morning for a reason!!
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J_9
I knew I was nauseous this morning for a reason!!!
Because you're Party Girl and drank your face off last night?
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NeedKarma
Because you're Party Girl and drank your face off last night?
I wish that was the reason! Too busy birthin' babies to party!!
Nobama? The NPP? You have GOT to be kidding me!! :eek:
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NeedKarma
Without browsing every page I saw 2, that's lots of people? Most wondered for what? Why do you think these "lots" of people" would expect us to say that, because we have a point? Because they know Arafat and peace prize should be two mutually exclusive things?
Lots of people... being the commenters on Diggs... yup .
But this doesn't address the question raised at the presser after the announcment about the President considering increasing troops in Afghanistan and threatening tough sanctions and leaving the military option open in Iran.
The bottom line. The nominations had to be in the 1st week Feb. That meant the President was nominated roughly 2 weeks after being sworn in.
Giving the Goracle the Peace Prize for making a movie about the environment had more credibility.
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tomder55
Giving the Goracle the Peace Prize for making a movie about the environment had more credibility.
Exactly, or has giving someone an award for actual accomplishments become passé?
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speechlesstx
... because we have a point?
No because you follow party lines and will oppose anything for the sake of opposing it. It's also called "politics of spite": http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/op...05krugman.html It's part of the fractiring of the republican party that's going on. People are getting sick of the stunts, here's a list: Top 30 Stupidest Attacks on Obama - Eyes On Obama
I think it's funny Obama's two biggest Enemies are upset about this. The Taliban and the Republicans. You guys are in good company.
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NeedKarma
No because you follow party lines and will oppose anything for the sake of opposing it.
Then tell us in YOUR OWN WORDS why he deserves the NPP! Don't just direct us to links... we want to hear what you have to say.
Here is the whole argument in favor of his selection... he is not Bush
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J_9
Then tell us in YOUR OWN WORDS why he deserves the NPP! Don't just direct us to links....we want to hear what you have to say.
I mentioned it earlier, I just related the news. I won't get into your petty little never ending "discussions" which are always of the same theme.
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NeedKarma
I mentioned it earlier, I just related the news. I won't get into your petty little never ending "discussions" which are always of the exact same theme.
If you don't want to get into our discussions then why do you report?
It's a Current Event is it not? Do you question all askers when they post something and don't get into discussions or just me?
Let's see...
Obama was nominated for the Prize on February 1, 2009... just two weeks into his Presidency.
At that point, he hadn't accomplished anything except winning an election. With the exception of his inaugural address, he hadn't even made any speeches of note. (He has since made up for that lack in spades, hasn't he, but that's a topic for another thread.)
He hadn't created any legislation, hadn't put any policies in place, hadn't even appeared in an international public forum.
So, what was he nominated for?
According to the Nobel website, the prize is being awarded to Obama
"for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples".
Huh? What efforts was he responsible for as of the time of his nomination? In fact, what efforts is he responsible for up to this point?
Even the Nobel Committee has admitted that Obama's initiatives in "reducing nuclear arms, easing American conflicts with Muslim Nations and strengthening the US role in combating cclimate change" have yet to bear fruit.
So now we are offering Nobel Prizes for making a good effort, rather than for results.
Wouldn't that be kind of like granting the Mets the World Series Championship for their STRONG EFFORTS at playing baseball, rather than for actually winning games?
Back in 2002, when the Prize was awarded to Jimmy Carter "for his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development", Thorbjoern Jagland, the Nobel Committee Chairman commented that the award should be seen "as a 'kick in the leg' to the Bush administration's hard line in the buildup to the Iraq war."
Similar comments were made when Al Gore won the prize in 2007... supposedly for his work on Global Warming... but in reality it was an award for the guy who had run against Bush.
I suspect that this is just more of the same. The Prize had nothing to do with anything Obama has done. This was just one last attempt to slap Bush in the face.
The Nobel Peace Prize Committee has once again shown itself to be a politically motivated body, not a body that bases its awards on actual results. They once again have proven their irrelevence.
Elliot
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ETWolverine
The Nobel Peace Prize Committee has once again shown itself to be a politically motivated body, not a body that bases its awards on actual results. They once again have proven their irrelevence.
Elliot
Perfectly put!
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NeedKarma
It's a Current Event is it not? Do you question all askers when they post something and don't get into discussions or just me?
I have never seen anyone post something in the "Member Discussions" section and then claim that they don't want to discuss what they posted.
So, yeah, it is just you that is being questioned... because you're the only one who has done that.
Elliot
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ETWolverine
I have never seen anyone post something in the "Member Discussions" section and then claim that they don't want to discuss what they posted.
So, yeah, it is just you that is being questioned... because you're the only one who has done that.
Elliot
I can't say it enough... perfectly put!
If you don't want to discuss it, don't bring it up. And YES, I do question my OP's when the situation warrants it, and this situation warrants it.
Why bring it up if you don't want to discuss it?
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NeedKarma
Gee, NK, I always love that you give us so much credit for being able to think for ourselves. I personally checked in with Michelle Malkin this morning before asking myself, "what for?"
Some things are so painfully and obviously ridiculous even you should be able to pick up on it, like giving Arafat a Nobel Peace Prize or to a man who at the time of the nominations had managed to make a career of political campaigning, hold a gaudy inauguration, proclaim "I won" to Eric Cantor and break his first campaign promise by announcing his intention to name a lobbyist as Deputy Defense Secretary. So tell us, what had Obama done to deserve this prize? What had he done to even be nominated, have good intentions?
Hello:
Yesterday, I won a poker tournament.. It wasn't because I'm a GOOD poker player. It was because I was lucky. The money spends the same.
Congrats Mr. Pres. Now go get a public option.
excon
It is so great that you guys agree with the Taliban. I don't think my day could have gotten off to a better start. This is classic
As far as I can tell his accomplishements to date is the increasing unemployment rate and the collapse of the dollar. His new motto 'Peace through Poverty ' .
But at least this explains why he lost the Olympic bid. All his bribe money went to Oslo instead of Copenhagen.
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excon
Hello:
Yesterday, I won a poker tournament.. It wasn't because I'm a GOOD poker player. It was because I was lucky. The money spends the same.
Congrats Mr. Pres. Now go get a public option.
excon
I want to make this clear... I'm not blaming Obama for this bit of insanity. I don't think he had anything to do with it, and he and his White House were caught off-guard... they had no comment this morning because they weren't expecting it. And yeah, he got "lucky" that a bunch of jerks wanted to slap Bush in the face, and he was in the right place at the right time to do it.
I blame the Nobel Committee for this. It is THEIR judgement and their sanity, not Obama's, that is called into question at this award.
Elliot
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spitvenom
It is so great that you guys agree with the Taliban. I don't think my day could have gotten off to a better start. This is classic
Hey Spit, what's that they say... even a broken clock is right twice a day? The Taliban should ease up on him though, the headline in my paper today was about Obama wanting to give them a role in Afghan affairs.
Or maybe the right should just be quite on this one since Obama had nothing to do with it. Well Tom thinks he bribed them. I bet if we dig a little bit deeper we will find the right and the Taliban aren't too much different. We can start with Religion if you like.
Spit : I'm sure his acceptance speech will include :" This isn't about me" .
Mary Katharine Ham at Weekly Standard dug up the names of the other nominees.
Here is the list of those who did not win the award this year:
Sima Samar, women's rights activist in Afghanistan: "With dogged persistence and at great personal risk, she kept her schools and clinics open in Afghanistan even during the most repressive days of the Taliban regime, whose laws prohibited the education of girls past the age of eight. When the Taliban fell, Samar returned to Kabul and accepted the post of Minister for Women's Affairs."
Ingrid Betancourt: French-Colombian ex-hostage held for six years.
"Dr. Denis Mukwege: Doctor, founder and head of Panzi Hospital in Bukavu, Democratic Republic of Congo. He has dedicated his life to helping Congolese women and girls who are victims of gang rape and brutal sexual violence."
Handicap International and Cluster Munition Coalition: "These organizations are recognized for their consistently serious efforts to clean up cluster bombs, also known as land mines. Innocent civilians are regularly killed worldwide because the unseen bombs explode when stepped upon."
"Hu Jia, a human rights activist and an outspoken critic of the Chinese government, who was sentenced last year to a three-and-a-half-year prison term for 'inciting subversion of state power.'"
"Wei Jingsheng, who spent 17 years in Chinese prisons for urging reforms of China's communist system. He now lives in the United States."
The Weekly Standard
I bet it was the kegger summit that put him over the top.
I think the Taliban and the GOP should file a joint complaint to the Noble people. Then next year Richard Steele or Hakimullah Mehsud can get nominated. Or maybe the Noble people will award both of them with the Peace prize for working together. Think about it!
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spitvenom
Or maybe the right should just be quite on this one since Obama had nothing to do with it. Well Tom thinks he bribed them. I bet if we dig a little bit deeper we will find the right and the Taliban aren't to much different. We can start with Religion if you like.
Yeah, I support World Vision, they support world conquest. They want to dominate Afghanistan, I want to dominate our fantasy football league :D
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speechlesstx
Yeah, I support
World Vision, they support world conquest. They want to dominate Afghanistan, I want to dominate our fantasy football league :D
No way, I am turning the season around. I got the first win finally now on to the second win. I have to get ready to face the beast from the east (Tom) in 3 weeks. I can't believe it is week 5 already.
I think Mark Sanchez should be awarded the MVP .The CHANGE he represents has brought HOPE to the long suffering NY Jets fan.
I think most Jets fans will agree with you Tom.
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