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  • Oct 6, 2009, 05:10 AM
    excon
    Death Penalty
    Hello:

    Ohio is looking into backup procedures in case the standard execution techniques fail, as they did on Sept. 15, when technicians at the state prison in Lucasville tried for over two hours to maintain an intravenous connection in order to inject Romell Broom with lethal drugs for the abduction, rape and murder of a teenage girl in 1984.

    The governor has stopped further executions while they go back to the drawing board.

    If we're going to execute people, how do you think we should do it? Vote for as many items as you wish.

    excon

    PS> (edited) I'm reminded that I forgot stoning, the firing squad and tarring and feathering.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 05:19 AM
    mudweiser

    If the person is a child molester can we mutilate them as well.

    ::shrugs::

    Sarah
  • Oct 6, 2009, 05:32 AM
    shazamataz

    I put "Other" as for me it deopends on the crime...

    If they raped a child then they themselves get raped repeatedly before being killed...

    If they bashed their spouse to death, then perhaps a public stoning would be good.

    If they tortured an animal let them be attacked by animals... (ok, OK not death penalty worthy but I would sure enjoy it)

    You get my idea anyway...
  • Oct 6, 2009, 05:33 AM
    NeedKarma
    But WWJD?
  • Oct 6, 2009, 05:45 AM
    jmjoseph
    What I don't understand is why does it take so long to execute someone after they have been condemned? I work with someone who had to wait THIRTY YEARS to see justice done after 6 members of her family were brutally killed.

    I read somewhere that it takes about 1 million dollars, on average, to try, hold, retry, hold some more, and to finally execute a death row prisoner.

    In California, it takes more money and time.

    Will Scott Peterson ever be executed?

    I think capital punishment is a necessary deterrant, but the process is not without flaws.

    Have we ever executed an innocent person? I think the answer is indeed yes.

    I would rather be put to death by mistake, than to do away with the death penalty.

    Like Shaz said, there should be penalty equal to the crime committed.

    Child molesters, and child killers, would be subject to the harshest of punishment.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 06:29 AM
    ETWolverine

    Let the punishment fit the crime.

    If someone shoots his victims, let him go before the firing squad.

    If he strangles his victims, let him be hung.

    If he bashes their skulls in, let him have his skull bashed in.

    If he's a serial rapist, let him be raped first and then cut his _________ off and let him bleed to death.

    Or...

    We could just go with the Biblical forms of execution, as explained in the talmud:

    Skilla - stoning (dropped off a cliff and then stoned)
    Srefa - burning (forced to drink molten lead)
    Hereg - stabbing (run through with a sword or pike)
    Chenek - strangulation (a rope is wrapped around the criminal's neck and both ends of the rope are pulled by two different people)

    That works for me too.

    Elliot
  • Oct 6, 2009, 06:39 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    But WWJD?

    He would take my punishment for me.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 06:43 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    He would take my punishment for me.

    So is that what you would do? Take the punishment for someone else?
  • Oct 6, 2009, 06:54 AM
    tomder55

    Starvations is reserved for granny and Terri Schiavo.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:24 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    So is that what you would do? Take the punishment for someone else?

    I'm not Jesus, but feel free to jump in and take the hit for someone.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:28 AM
    NeedKarma
    Ok, I was wondering how that all played out.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:41 AM
    spitvenom

    I agree with everything ET has said. But since I am a little twisted I think we should take it a step further then public hangings. Lets make it a Pay Per View event like boxing, wrestling, or MMA. There is a lot of money to be made here. A large portion of the money would go to the victims families and the rest to pay for expenses.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:42 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I agree with everything ET has said. But since I am a little twisted I think we should take it a step further then public hangings. Lets make it a Pay Per View event like boxing, wrestling, or MMA. There is a lot of money to be made here. A large portion of the money would go to the victims families and the rest to pay for expenses.

    I LIKE it!!

    Works for me.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:45 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    I agree with everything ET has said. But since I am a little twisted I think we should take it a step further then public hangings. Lets make it a Pay Per View

    Hello spit:

    I think it should be FREE. What? Poor people shouldn't be allowed to see justice met out? Make it prime time too, and in Hi Def - don't want to leave the kiddies out.

    excon
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:47 AM
    tomder55

    Off subject... Philly's best move of the year. Ibanez in Burrell out. But what to do about relief ?

    Back to op

    Does 'other' include vacumming out of womb?
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:50 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello spit:

    I think it should be FREE. What? Poor people shouldn't be allowed to see justice met out? Make it prime time too, and in Hi Def - don't wanna leave the kiddies out.

    excon

    You think EVERYTHING should be free for poor people, regardless of cost. Health care, food, clothing, shelter, cars, TV, gas, electric, cell phones, computers... it should all be free for everyone... and the rich should be taxed to pay for it all... whee.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:51 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Does 'other' include vacumming out of womb?

    How about the crushing of skulls with foreceps?
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:52 AM
    NeedKarma
    make those god damned poor people pay to use the roads, and while we're at it they should pay for firemen to put out their fires - bugger freeloaders!
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:54 AM
    adam_89

    I think they should do away with prisons all together. They should have jails for petty crimes. Otherwise, put a bullet in their head and let that be the end of it. Don't hold them in a cell and feed them every day. Screw that. They committed a crime so they deserve to be punished. I think people would think twice about raping someone if they knew it meant a bullet in the head or if they stole something and we chopped their hands off. It is only fair. You obey the law or be punished. Is it that hard to understand?
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:55 AM
    spitvenom

    You are right Ex poor people shouldn't be left out. Then how about pay like 5 bucks and watch it at a movie theater. If you want to watch it at home 20 bucks in Standard Def 25 bucks for HD then if you have a TiVo, DVR, or VCR you can record it for the kiddies to watch. It's a Win Win.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:56 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    I think they should do away with prisons all together. They should have jails for petty crimes. Otherwise, put a bullet in their head and let that be the end of it. Don't hold them in a cell and feed them every day. Screw that. They committed a crime so they deserve to be punished. I think people would think twice about raping someone if they knew it meant a bullet in the head or if they stole something and we chopped their hands off. It is only fair. You obey the law or be punished. Is it that hard to understand?

    You sound like a devout muslim.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:56 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    make those god damned poor people pay to use the roads, and while we're at it they should pay for firemen to put out their fires - bugger freeloaders!

    Make the rich pay for EVERYONE to use the roads and the firemen... in the process making the rich poor... leaving nobody to pay for the roads anymore. Socialism in action.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 07:57 AM
    spitvenom
    RAUUUUUUUL turned out to be a Genius move. I love Pat the Bat but he can't run or field at all. The AL playing DH is where he belongs!
  • Oct 6, 2009, 08:01 AM
    excon

    Hello:

    Maybe a civil war IS what we need. The blues against the reds... Do you mind being called reds? Ironic, isn't it?

    excon
  • Oct 6, 2009, 08:07 AM
    spitvenom

    I have to say I have always been Red when it comes to the death penalty. Other then that I am Blue.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 08:13 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello:

    Maybe a civil war IS what we need. The blues against the reds... Do you mind being called reds? Ironic, isn't it?

    excon

    Don't mind at all, and the blues aren't so bad sometimes, especially that hot thing that was dancing with Tom DeLay last night.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 08:38 AM
    excon

    Hello again:

    If, in fact, our wishes came true, and we could see ourselves butcher another human being on TV, the death penalty would be history.

    You are NOT as brutal as you pretend you are, my friends...

    Ok, maybe the Wolverine is.

    excon
  • Oct 6, 2009, 08:40 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    You are NOT as brutal as you pretend you are, my friends...

    I respectfully disagree.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 08:41 AM
    adam_89

    NK, I was just posting my view on it, that is all.

    Ex, I think a civil war is already in the process and we just don't know it yet.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 08:48 AM
    rankrank55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    I think they should do away with prisons all together. They should have jails for petty crimes. Otherwise, put a bullet in their head and let that be the end of it. Don't hold them in a cell and feed them every day. Screw that. They committed a crime so they deserve to be punished. I think people would think twice about raping someone if they knew it meant a bullet in the head or if they stole something and we chopped their hands off. It is only fair. You obey the law or be punished. Is it that hard to understand?

    I'm liking this idea. People always think there's a way out of something and if the government provides NO way out then I really do believe people would think twice. I use to be against death penalty until my daughter was born; if someone were to ever do her harm I would want them to be rid of in the worst possible way. :) Lovely, huh!
  • Oct 6, 2009, 08:54 AM
    tomder55

    After careful consideration I have opted for the 4th option. Dr.Joe Guillotine got it right. It is the most humane form of execution and the terror effect is a deterent . Chalk one up for the French !
  • Oct 6, 2009, 08:58 AM
    rankrank55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    After careful consideration I have opted for the 4th option. Dr.Joe Guillotine got it right. It is the most humane form of execution and the terror effect is a deterent . Chalk one up for the French !


    So true!
  • Oct 6, 2009, 08:59 AM
    adam_89
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rankrank55 View Post
    I'm liking this idea. People always think there's a way out of something and if the government provides NO way out then I really do believe people would think twice. I use to be against death penalty until my daughter was born; if someone were to ever do her harm I would want them to be rid of in the worst possible way. :) Lovely, huh!

    I am glad you think the same way. Why waste the money to give them a place to sleep and something to eat when we could save millions if we just killed them for their crime. I keep my house secured and I am always armed. If someone breaks into my house, I will kill them because they do not deserve a chance in the world anymore.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 09:00 AM
    NeedKarma
    Perhaps the republicans should draft up a bill to legislate death by guillotine.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 09:02 AM
    spitvenom

    You can't kill people for jaywalking the punishment has to fit the crime.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 09:02 AM
    adam_89

    Did you know they did away with the guillotine because it is inhumane and you actually feel the pain for it the most. You still feel the pain after your head is cut off.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 09:05 AM
    adam_89
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    You can't kill people for jaywalking the punishment has to fit the crime.

    That is an example of a petty crime. Give them a warning or a ticket. You don't kill people like that.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 09:05 AM
    rankrank55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adam_89 View Post
    I am glad you think the same way. Why waste the money to give them a place to sleep and something to eat when we could save millions if we just killed them for their crime. I keep my house secured and I am always armed. If someone breaks into my house, I will kill them because they do not deserve a chance in the world anymore.

    Exactly! I keep an ax in my car. So if anyone ever tries to pull a number on me, they are getting whacked to death. And you are right... they just don't deserve a second chance. On another thought, I remember having this conversation with my grandfather when I was a little girl. Yes, he was an interesting man. His idea for punishment for murder and things of that nature was to strap the criminal to a chair in an ER and make them watch people go in and out and then execute them.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 09:08 AM
    adam_89
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rankrank55 View Post
    Exactly! I keep an ax in my car. So if anyone ever tries to pull a number on me, they are getting whacked to death. And you are right...they just don't deserve a second chance. On another thought, I remember having this conversation with my grandfather when I was a little girl. Yes, he was an interesting man. His idea for punishment for murder and things of that nature was to strap the criminal to a chair in an ER and make them watch people go in and out and then execute them.

    That would be an interesting idea. I like your axe idea, I like to keep a knife with me or a gun. I don't like to be messed with and people are untrustworthy today.
  • Oct 6, 2009, 09:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Perhaps the republicans should draft up a bill to legislate death by guillotine.

    Too French. Oh wait, the French are actually getting a pair while Obama castrates the country.

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