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  • Sep 23, 2009, 09:17 PM
    N0help4u
    Nobody wanted to believe me
    I have been saying this for years and now it is going to be happening but of course those who didn't believe me STILL will not believe the significance or that I have been saying for years that this would happen.

    Swine flu vaccine recipients could be tracked with RFID bracelets using Big Brother medical technology by Mike Adams the Health Ranger

    Are you all ready for the Swine flu shot and the RFID chip?
  • Sep 23, 2009, 09:23 PM
    Wondergirl

    Good grief! Where is it happening? Someone is quite a SF writer.
  • Sep 23, 2009, 09:33 PM
    paraclete
    Ha Ha
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    I have been saying this for years and now it is going to be happening but of course those who didn't believe me STILL will not believe the significance or that I have been saying for years that this would happen.

    Swine flu vaccine recipients could be tracked with RFID bracelets using Big Brother medical technology by Mike Adams the Health Ranger

    Are you all ready for the Swine flu shot and the RFID chip?

    Wonderful conspiracy theory:D
  • Sep 23, 2009, 09:58 PM
    N0help4u

    Tell me I am wrong when they do make the shots mandatory and the RFID bracelets to go with it!
  • Sep 24, 2009, 03:39 AM
    tomder55

    Radio frequency has a very short range. The RFID readers now on the market have a maximum range of about 30 feet .We have a number of transmitters just to cover the space of our warehouses. You would have to build a whole infrastructure blanketting the country with receivers to make it possible to track people.
  • Sep 24, 2009, 04:19 AM
    NeedKarma
    Oh my, that is quite a fictional story. Tell me, would you wear a tracking bracelet or a flu shot? I wouldn't. Plus tom's technical aspects are correct. That story was a load of BS.
  • Sep 24, 2009, 06:28 AM
    ETWolverine
    Hey... maybe they're putting something in the vaccine itself in order to track us... and the RFID bracelets are just a red herring...

    http://seoblackhat.com/upimage/tinfoilhat.jpg
  • Sep 24, 2009, 10:19 AM
    tomder55
    If you strip away the conspiracy theory behind the story you find that what will be "implanted " is a medical devise designed for virus detection . It is to help alert the patient of a possible presence of a pathogen . It is not a bracelet .

    UPDATE 1-VeriChip shares jump after H1N1 patent license win | Industries | Technology, Media & Telecommunications | Reuters

    Verichip has a patent on the device that yes... does use rf technology to detect swine flu and other viruses. Their stock tripled this week after the company said it had been granted an exclusive license to two patents, which will help it to develop implantable virus-detection systems in humans.
  • Sep 24, 2009, 10:40 AM
    ETWolverine

    Tom,

    "Develop", as in "it doesn't exist yet"?

    Elliot
  • Sep 24, 2009, 11:08 AM
    tomder55
    Yup .

    I see a benefit for a device like this for patients who want their medical information available to first responders and EMT /Paramedics. The key is the voluntary application .

    Pet owners and livestock owners already use similar devices as a sort of 21st century "brand" . It is not for arbitrary tracking and is not designed as such .
  • Sep 24, 2009, 11:29 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    yup .

    I see a benefit for a device like this for patients who want their medical information available to first responders and EMT /Paramedics. The key is the voluntary application .

    Pet owners and livestock owners already use simular devices as a sorta 21st century "brand" . It is not for arbitary tracking and is not designed as such .

    I think it has been (is going to be?) used on Alzheimer's patients.

    When one is ill and rocking from side to side in a fast-moving ambulance (as I was a few weeks ago), the last thing one is able to do is spit out one's medical history.
  • Sep 24, 2009, 11:36 AM
    tomder55

    Quote:

    When one is ill and rocking from side to side in a fast-moving ambulance (as I was a few weeks ago), the last thing one is able to do is spit out one's medical history.
    Hope all is well.
  • Sep 24, 2009, 11:57 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    hope all is well.

    Thanks for asking, tomder. When I didn't even want to turn on my computer to check AMHD, I knew I was really sick! Things are improving now that I'm home again and can actually sleep and eat homemade food. The ER was somewhat fun (street-drugged young woman in the next cubicle kept "escaping" and running down the hallway with her unsecured gown wildly flapping around her, so Security moved in). I was amazed at the large numbers of male nurses and fat staff workers.
  • Sep 24, 2009, 03:49 PM
    N0help4u

    If the RFID chip can only track 30 feet why do they chip pets so they don't get lost? Why/how does UPS, Wal Mart and others use them to track packages?

    And like another reply said YET...
    With the way technology is nowadays it is only a matter of a short time.
  • Sep 24, 2009, 04:06 PM
    Sariss
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    If the RFID chip can only track 30 feet why do they chip pets so they don't get lost? Why/how does UPS, Wal Mart and others use them to track packages?.

    When a pet that has a microchip gets lost, you can't whip out a device that will point you in its direction. Once it gets found, it gets scanned by a reader that will display the info.
  • Sep 24, 2009, 04:47 PM
    N0help4u

    So it can stay lost forever. What's the purpose then?
  • Sep 24, 2009, 04:49 PM
    Sariss

    To reunite found pets with their owners. So many animals come into shelters as strays that are obviously someone's pets. But maybe they slipped their collar or had no tags. If they had a microchip, the shelter could scan it and find the owner.
  • Sep 25, 2009, 02:16 AM
    tomder55

    Sariss is correct. I can tell you ,because my dog was given a chip before sold to us ,that the reason is not for tracking the dog but that the dog can be identified easy once found .
  • Sep 25, 2009, 07:43 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    So it can stay lost forever. Whats the purpose then?

    Why do dogs wear dog tags?

    Same thing... so that once it is found, the owner can be identified...

    ... and usually extorted for a reward by the lucky kid that found the dog. ;)

    Elliot
  • Sep 25, 2009, 08:08 AM
    spitvenom

    I don't get flu shots because the put mind control drugs in them that makes you want to spend money. That is why they are given around the holidays.

    (I really don't believe that it's from the simpsons but when I saw the tin foil hats I couldn't resist)
  • Sep 25, 2009, 09:04 AM
    Ren6
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    So it can stay lost forever. Whats the purpose then?

    When I found my cats abandoned in a parking lot, I took them to the vet. The first thing the vet did was scan them for micro chips. The chips would have given the name and address of the owner. Lots of times people find animals, and this is a great way for the humane society to discover their owners.
  • Sep 25, 2009, 08:40 PM
    N0help4u

    It just seems like it would be simpler with a GPS tracking type thing in case nobody did find them.

    People want to say the technology doesn't exist for this but they said that about the GPS tracking device not too many years ago.
    The one Super bowl commercial with the scarecrow was about how they are going to grid 'the infrastructure' It will be used to track people.
    Well at least I have this post so that when it happens I can remind you all that I DID say it
  • Sep 25, 2009, 09:02 PM
    artlady

    I don't know about the validity of this particular thing but I do know I do NOT TRUST BIG BROTHER.
    I also know it is out there.
    I suspect I know this more because I have been a *RECIPIENT* of the State and when you are.. watch out.
    I was burned out of my apt. bldg.years ago had to get state help.. wow
    I was waiting for the chip.
    Unless you have dealt with the welfare system,you have no clue,they rule you :)
  • Sep 25, 2009, 09:54 PM
    Gumbee

    That would see like an Idea but how many people would want to fork over the cost of these little implants especially in the states.
  • Sep 25, 2009, 10:43 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gumbee View Post
    That would see like an Idea but how many people would want to fork over the cost of these little implants especially in the states.

    The RFID chips don't cost that much to implant. If one of my parents had Alzheimer's and might run away from home, I would spare no expense to implant a GPS device. Medicare might even pay for something like that.
  • Sep 25, 2009, 11:18 PM
    artlady
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    The RFID chips don't cost that much to implant. If one of my parents had Alzheimer's and might run away from home, I would spare no expense to implant a GPS device. Medicare might even pay for something like that.

    I agree WG ,there is always a great technology that has the right idea.
    Then someone comes along and figures out a way to manipulate it ,usually for money and that is why greed and science create such a potential horror story.
    The potential for genetic engineering for GOOD is amazing but we have to stop it because of Franken doctors!
    Crock of shi#
  • Sep 26, 2009, 01:51 AM
    tomder55

    Quote:

    I don't know about the validity of this particular thing but I do know I do NOT TRUST BIG BROTHER.
    I also know it is out there.
    I suspect I know this more because I have been a *RECIPIENT* of the State and when you are.. watch out.
    I was burned out of my apt. bldg.years ago had to get state help.. wow
    I was waiting for the chip.
    Unless you have dealt with the welfare system,you have no clue,they rule you
    Which brings us back to that universal health care thingy.
  • Sep 26, 2009, 12:35 PM
    N0help4u

    Exactly they are trying to find a way to use health care to enforce big brother. One way or another I do believe that in less than 10 yrs it will be mandatory to have some tracking device.
    They are using some early census thing to get a better lay out of everything to grid everything.
  • Sep 27, 2009, 02:21 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u View Post
    Exactly they are trying to find a way to use health care to enforce big brother. One way or another I do believe that in less than 10 yrs it will be mandatory to have some tracking device.
    They are using some early census thing to get a better lay out of everything to grid everything.

    It's a scary world you live in.
  • Sep 27, 2009, 10:02 AM
    ETWolverine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    It's a scary world you live in.

    Oh, NK, you silly man... you think you are immune? You're already stuck in such a system and don't even know it. The Big Brother of the Canadian government already has you by the short-and-curlies. They already OWN you...

    Elliot
  • Sep 27, 2009, 10:25 AM
    N0help4u

    Exactly ETW BUT not immune just complacent and compliant to whatever Big Bro has to offer.

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