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Save time, Use the Patch

Something I received in an e-mail. It describes a really good way to save time in the Emergency Room at most hospitals in the USA.

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The other day, I needed to go to the emergency room.

Not wanting to sit there for 4 hours, I put on my old Army fatigues and stuck a patch onto the front of my shirt that I had downloaded off the Internet.

When I went into the E.R. I noticed that 3/4 of the people got up and left. I guess they decided that they weren't that sick after all. Cut at least 3 hours off my waiting time.

Here's the patch. Feel free to use it the next time you're in need of quicker emergency service.

http://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik....1&disp=emb&zw

It also works at DMV and the Laundromat.

Don't try it at McDonald's, the whole crew will exit and you'll never get your order.

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Cats, just for you...

File:USA - Border Patrol.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Elliot

Hello El:

I'll STOP asking you to notice the racism that's all around you... It would be an impossible task since you can't even see it in yourself...

Does it bother you when people make jokes about Jews being tight or having big noses? Would you complain to a moderator if someone did it here?? I'll bet you would... You, who fight for Jewish causes, should be the FIRST to understand the vileness you spew... But, you don't...

excon

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

Cats, just for you...

File:USA - Border Patrol.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Elliot

Thanks,

Ex makes note that you follow Abraham, if you're Orthodox let me say Happy New Year. I don't have the Hebrew to say it.

Ex--is it REALLY racism?

He never MENTIONS a race.

There are a LOT of people in this country that are here illegally--and not all of them are from the place you think is being referenced. Here in MN, Border Patrol deals with CANADIANS (those sneaky Canucks!) and people from OTHER countries in the world that try to sneak in across the border.

While we all know that the MAJORITY of illegal aliens are here from a specific country---I'm of the opinion that I shouldn't have to pay the hospital bill they can't afford from my taxes when they aren't even making an EFFORT to become legalized in most cases, REGARDLESS which country they're coming from.

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Originally Posted by Synnen

Ex--is it REALLY racism?

He never MENTIONS a race.

Hello Synn:

Of course, its racism, Synn... The worst kind, because it's subtle, it's nuanced, and it's defensible - just like you're defending it.

It's like the lady who posted a picture of the White House with watermelons growing in the front yard. After all, they're ONLY watermelons. She doesn't SAY anything racist. She could just not know about stuff like that. She COULD be completely innocent of racism, couldn't she??

In a PIGS EYE!!

excon

Spectral evidence is great isn't it ?

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Originally Posted by tomder55

spectral evidence is great aint it ?

Hello tom:

So, if someone, for example, wore a white sheet to an Obama town hall, my suggestion that he too might be a racist, would be met with the same comment?

I don't know. I'm still getting the feeling that you righty's deny that there's racism within our ranks... You SAY you don't do that, but apparently the term racist is reserved for those who use the N word.

Is that right, or is there any OTHER form of communication, short of the spoken or written word, that could exhibit racism?

Is Pat Buchanan a racist? I've never heard him use a racial slur, yet he's the most racist guy around.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello Synn:

Of course, its racism, Synn... The worst kind, because it's subtle, it's nuanced, and it's defensible - just like you're defending it.

It's like the lady who posted a picture of the White House with watermelons growing in the front yard. After all, they're ONLY watermelons. She doesn't SAY anything racist. She could just not know about stuff like that. She COULD be completely innocent of racism, couldn't she???

In a PIGS EYE!!!

excon

Honest to goodness, Exy---it took me a full minute to figure out your example---because I was trying to figure out how liking big melons (though I have no idea whether our new president likes big melons or not) had to do with racism.

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Originally Posted by Synnen

Honest to goodness, Exy---it took me a full minute to figure out your example---because I was trying to figure out how liking big melons (though I have no idea whether or not our new president likes big melons or not) had to do with racism.

Hello again, Synn:

There's lots of people who don't know stuff like that. I don't know how you missed it, and I don't know where the fault lies for that lapse.

Nonetheless, in our recent history black people have been characterised as especially liking watermelons and fried chicken. They've been characterized as monkeys too.

So, when you see references to Obama that include fried chicken, watermelons or having to do with monkeys, they're either RACIST, or they're from people like you who actually have no idea of those connections...

But, you MUST admit, given those characterizations, it would be a NATURAL response to think they're racist... I mean, how many people are there who really don't know that stuff?? It IS American history, for crying out loud.. So, some of these people who claim ignorance, aren't telling the truth now, are they?

excon

Speaking about Buchanan... what does he and Jimmy C have in common ?

Wearing white sheets would be overt in your face racism.

Whereas what I see in Elliot's "joke " is a parody that uses stereotyping . Now is all stereotyping racism ? If it is then all stereotypes dealing with gender, religion, age, weight, ethnicity, socio-economic class, disability, occupation, among many other things are also racist.

But you know they are not. You are reading into Elliot's mind and heart and divining what he meant.
Yes spectral evidence covers it.

Oh, I know it's history.

I just try, honestly, to live in a color free society, and therefore try to treat people according to their ACTIONS, not by stereotypes.

However--if you're in the US illegally, then the FIRST thing you did when you came to this country was break the law. Why SHOULD lawbreakers get privileges? There's actually TRUTH behind the fact that many ER waiting rooms have people in them that are not TRULY emergencies---but the ER is the ONLY place that HAS to treat a person regardless their legal status. So... if people get up and walk out because they see a US Border Patrol member and slink out because of it---that just tells me that they're guilty of being in this country illegally, not what color they are.

I realize that not as many people out there are as enlightened as I am, though.

EVERYONE should have thought of the sexual side of your example before the racist side of your example, in my opinion.

I think it's deplorable.

Glad Ex is here to try and explain why.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello El:

I'll STOP asking you to notice the racism that's all around you... It would be an impossible task since you can't even see it in yourself...

So... I'm a racist... because I point out when foreigners are breaking our laws.

To you pointing out illegal behavior is racism.

Now I understand why you see racism where there is none...

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Does it bother you when people make jokes about Jews being tight or having big noses? Would you complain to a moderator if someone did it here?? I'll bet you would... You, who fight for Jewish causes, should be the FIRST to understand the vileness you spew... But, you don't...

Excon

First of all, does this joke mention any specific race? Does it describe anyone in specific? Nope. So if anyone is jumping to conclusions about race, it would be YOU, not me. MY point was one about illegal behavior, not race.

But of course, YOU are a liberal racist, you see race where none is intended, none is mentioned, and none is justified.

I think you need to check the mirror, excon. Because calling someone a racist when it isn't justified is itself an act of racism.

As for people making Jewish jokes... I hate to tell you this, but I tell some of the best of them. And no, they don't upset me. Not even a little. They don't upset most of the Jews I know either. Perhaps you're a little overly sensitive...

Elliot

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Originally Posted by tomder55

If it is then all stereotypes dealing with gender, religion, age, weight, ethnicity, socio-economic class, disability, occupation, among many other things are also racist.

Hello again, tom:

Not at all, tom. It would be called gender bias, religious discrimination, age discrimination, fat content, discrimination against broke people, job discrimination...

The one you hit right was ETHNICITY. Discrimination against someone because of their ethnicity IS racism. The rest is just plain old discrimination.

RACISM, because of our past behavior in enslaving black people, is especially offensive... I've never known us to enslave fat people. If we did, then putting down fat people would be MUCH worse than it already is.

I don't know why you folks don't understand these things. So no, tom. I'm not convinced. Racists are especially ugly.

excon

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Originally Posted by Catsmine

Thanks,

Ex makes note that you follow Abraham, if you're Orthodox let me say Happy New Year. I don't have the Hebrew to say it.

The Hebrew is Shanah Tovah (Good Year). And the same to you, Cats.

Elliot

Excon,

So based on your logic, if anyone were to actually walk into an ER with such a patch on their shoulder, they would be racist, because it clearly is meant as a racial descrimination act.

What if he really was a border patrol agent?

What if he was a border patrol agent with a Mexican background?

What if he was an American civilian with a Mexican background who just happened to be sick of other people coming to his country illegally... even if it's from his family's country of origin?

Are all such people racists too?

Sorry, but this joke wasn't racist at all. It didn't mention Mexicans or Hispanics of any sort. YOU jumped to that conclusion. Perhaps that's because of stereotypes that YOU have created regarding Mexicans being the only ones who cross the border illegally. They're not, you know. My joke was about illegal aliens, not Mexicans or Hispanics. If you feel that it was a 'subtle suggestion' about Hispanics of any sort, perhaps you need to look at yourself and wonder why you are jumping to that conclusion when others do not. What is it about YOURSELF that makes you think that way. Because it wasn't anything I did.

Elliot

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

First of all, does this joke mention any specific race? Does it describe anyone in specific? Nope. So if anyone is jumping to conclusions about race, it would be YOU, not me.

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

My joke was about illegal aliens, not Mexicans or Hispanics. If you feel that it was a 'subtle suggestion' about Hispanics of any sort, perhaps you need to look at yourself and wonder why you are jumping to that conclusion when others do not. What is it about YOURSELF that makes you think that way.

Hello again, El:

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Originally Posted by Synnen

while we all know that the MAJORITY of illegal aliens are here from a specific country---

excon

I haven't denied where A MAJORITY come from.

But "majority" ain't all. And you skipped part of Syn's post:

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There are a LOT of people in this country that are here illegally--and not all of them are from the place you think is being referenced. Here in MN, Border Patrol deals with CANADIANS (those sneaky Canucks!) and people from OTHER countries in the world that try to sneak in across the border.

Did you think we'd miss that?

Elliot

No EX . Would someone making an Italian or a French joke (I seem to hear them used freely here ) be a racist ? Of course not.

What you are doing is divining what is racist or not based on what you think is in the heart of the person making the joke. Or as I called it based on spectral evidence.

Edit you did not answer my question about the Jimmy C and Buchanan .

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

I haven't denied where A MAJORITY come from.

Synn said: "Here in MN, Border Patrol deals with CANADIANS (those sneaky Canucks!) and people from OTHER countries in the world that try to sneak in across the border."

Did you think we'd miss that?

Hello again, El:

So, it's going to be those sneaky illegal Canucks who're going to run out of the ER when the border cops arrive? Is that what you're saying??

Did you think I'd miss that?

excon

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Originally Posted by tomder55

No EX . Would someone making an Italian or a French joke (I seem to hear them used freely here ) be a racist ? Of course not.

You did not answer my question about the Jimmy C and Buchanan.

Hello again, tom:

I don't know if you noticed, but the Italians and the French are WHITE. So no, an Italian joke is NOT a racist joke... I don't know what's so hard to get here...

I have NO idea what connection Carter and Buchanan have.

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom:

I don't know if you noticed, but the Italians and the French are WHITE. So no, an Italian joke is NOT a racist joke... I don't know what's so hard to get here...

I have NO idea what connection Carter and Buchanan have.

I guess that all depends on if you're thinking anthropologically, or culturally and socially.

No matter, under Obama's plans no one would have to leave the room.

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President Obama said this week that his health care plan won't cover illegal immigrants, but argued that's all the more reason to legalize them and ensure they eventually do get coverage.

He also staked out a position that anyone in the country legally should be covered - a major break with the 1996 welfare reform bill, which limited most federal public assistance programs only to citizens and longtime immigrants.

"Even though I do not believe we can extend coverage to those who are here illegally, I also don't simply believe we can simply ignore the fact that our immigration system is broken," Mr. Obama said Wednesday evening in a speech to the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute. "That's why I strongly support making sure folks who are here legally have access to affordable, quality health insurance under this plan, just like everybody else.

Mr. Obama added, "If anything, this debate underscores the necessity of passing comprehensive immigration reform and resolving the issue of 12 million undocumented people living and working in this country once and for all."

Republicans said that amounts to an amnesty, calling it a backdoor effort to make sure current illegal immigrants get health care.

So, he wants amnesty so they'll all be covered regardless. Now would be a great time to tell all those racist Americans that oppose Obamacare (oops, there I go being racist) that he really does want us to pay for health care for 12 million illegals.

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I don't know if you noticed, but the Italians and the French are WHITE.

Then why is antisemetic comments offensive ? You are very inconsistent.

Btw ,the thing Buchanan and Carter have in common is their anti-semitism. Carter has a pair of coconuts to be making any comments about anyone else's prejudices .

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The word is being sprayed in all directions, creating a hall of mirrors that is draining the scarlet R of its meaning and its power, turning it into more of a spitball than a stigma.
"It gets to the point where we don't have a word that we use to call people racist who actually are," said John McWhorter, who studies race and language at the conservative Manhattan Institute.
"The more abstract and the more abusive we get in the way we use the words, then the harder it is to talk about what we originally meant by those terms," he said.

Analysis: 'Racist' claims defuse word's power - Race & ethnicity- msnbc.com

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

As for people making Jewish jokes... I hate to tell you this, but I tell some of the best of them. And no, they don't upset me. Not even a little. They don't upset most of the Jews I know either. Perhaps you're a little overly sensitive...

Hello Elliot:

Were your relatives laughing when the Nazis, who carried signs with pictures of Jews with big noses, pulled them out of their houses, sliced their babies in half for the fun of it, yanked out their teeth out for the gold, and murdered 6,000,000 more??

What did they call Jews who collaborated with Nazi's?? Kapo's?

Happy New Year, Elliot.

excon

Ex

Really---in MN (and some of the other areas where Mexico is a long way away and Canada is pretty close), there is a good chance that half the people getting up in the ER would be white.

You know what perpetuates racism? Those people who are NOT racist seeing racism everywhere. Frankly, these days there is as much discrimination against whites as there is against blacks and Hispanics. Ever try to get a job in an EOE business in a place where people SCREAM racism if a more qualified white is hired over a less qualified Hispanic? I have. I've LIVED in TX, where getting a job just about REQUIRES being able to speak Spanish--who is getting preferential treatment for THOSE jobs, hmmm?

I worked in an environment where there was one co-worker who drove EVERYONE crazy. We couldn't understand her, she made constant mistakes we had to fix FOR her, and she was unhygenic on top of it. EVERY time she was called into the boss's office for a reprimand, she pulled out the race card. Because she was the only hispanic working in our department (I worked in a major university, so believe me, there were plenty of hispanics on campus), she claimed that we were ALL racist and that she'd sue the school and each of us individually if we didn't leave her alone. My point with this is that none of us were racist--while half the staff was white, the other half was black, American Indian, or of Oriental regions/descent. Bear in mind that our whole staff wasn't more than 30 people. So... the ONLY person who has ever accused me to my face of being a racist was a lazy, smelly "spic" who didn't do her job correctly, which resulted in more work for me. I didn't give a DAMN about her racial background--I just wanted her to do her JOB.

So--I refuse to be called a racist because I think that illegal aliens (of ANY race) should go home and fix their own damned countries and stop leeching off ours. I ALSO refuse to be called a racist because I expect people (of ANY race) to do the job they're being paid to do correctly--and be held to the SAME standards that I am being held.

PS--Ex, would you even KNOW my race if you hadn't seen a picture?

Ex:

http://www.jpands.org/vol10no1/cosman.pdf

Illegal immigrants don't overuse emergency room; Medi-cal patients do - Immigration Blog - OCRegister.com

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As of February 2007, 12 percent of the state's 6.6 million Medi-Cal eligible patients were considered illegal immigrants. Medi-Cal officials count as illegal immigrants people who can provide neither a Social Security number nor immigration papers.

This is a LEGAL and geographic issue, not a race issue. Are you going to ignore the LEGAL issue?

G&P

Nice Patch

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Originally Posted by ETWolverine

Something I received in an e-mail. It describes a really good way to save time in the Emergency Room at most hospitals in the USA.

Nice patch, ET, pity that it's such a local thang

Not racist

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I guess that all depends on if you're thinking anthropologically, or culturally and socially.

So, he wants amnesty so they'll all be covered regardless. Now would be a great time to tell all those racist Americans that oppose Obamacare (oops, there I go being racist) that he really does want us to pay for health care for 12 million illegals.

It's not racist to not to offer health cover to illegals after all they can pay for it if they want it. My own government doesn't offer health coverage to illegal immigrants, even though they are a minority, and we have universal health coverage. There is a point beyond which the system should not go.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello Elliot:

Were your relatives laughing when the Nazis, who carried signs with pictures of Jews with big noses, pulled them out of their houses, sliced their babies in half for the fun of it, yanked out their teeth out for the gold, and murdered 6,000,000 more????

What did they call Jews who collaborated with Nazi's??? Kapo's??

Happy New Year, Elliot.

excon

Nazis didn't "carry signs with pictures of Jews with big noses". They committed mass murder. Apparently you can't see the difference... which again is why I say you are overly sensitive. You equate humor that doesn't even point to a specific racial group with genocide of a specific group. YOU are the one with a messed up compass, excon, not me.

Elliot

LOL! Damn mexicans! LOL!

Hello again, El:

https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/member...82-sturmer.jpg

excon

What is that a picture of, Excon?

Because I don't speak German, I don't know what the newspaper says, and I don't see a single Yarmulka in the picures that would indicate that Jews are being made fun of. I have no idea what that is supposed to have said.

Now... one thing that I do recognize is a reference to "Juden", meaning Jews.

Which means that there's a WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE between the joke I posted, which referenced nobody in particular, and this newspaper, which references Jews.

Sorry, the two can't be equated.

Furthermore, I've never seen anyone killed by a newspaper story. Or a joke.

On the other hand, 6 million Jews (and a total of 13 million people) were killed by gas chambers.

You can try to equate humor with Nazi genocide as much as you want, but there ain't no simmilarity between the two. Especially when the joke wasn't about racism, but rather illegal behavior.

An illegal behavior that YOU are associating with a particular race. Which of course makes YOU the racist, not me.

Elliot