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  • May 6, 2009, 01:09 PM
    speechlesstx
    The greatest first lady ever!
    I'm not sure which is worse, the left's rabid hatred of Bush or their creepy infatuation with the Obama's. We're getting such hard hitting investigative journalism as Michelle's $540 sneakers, what the Obama's had for lunch, what a fashionista Michelle is, how magnificently toned her arms are and oh those pecs on Barack. Now, a little over 100 days in and Oprha has declared Michelle the greatest first lady EVER!

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    Though the room was filled with luminaries from around the world, most were star-struck to be in First Lady's company - even old friend Oprah Winfrey, her tablemate at the event. (See more in Gatecrasher, pages, 26-27)

    "Seeing as how Michelle is the greatest First Lady we've ever known, not to take anything away from the other First Ladies, but I think its so fantastic that she's tonight's guest and leads the pack of influentials," Winfrey told the Daily News.

    "I think that we see that Michelle is someone of multi-dimensions, and that you don't have to be just one thing, you can be many things," said Diane Sawyer. "In many ways were just getting to know all that she can and will do."

    "She's very warm. She's very sane," said "The View" co-host Joy Behar. "She's not crazy like some people in politics."

    "Michelle is incredible, I think she's amazing," said designer and Beatles scion Stella McCartney, who also made Time's list. "The half-American in me wants to dress her."
    Step aside Eleanor Roosevelt, Dolly Madison, Ladybird and Jackie-O, Michelle is in the house. Can we get a towel here so these folks can wipe the drool from their faces?
  • May 6, 2009, 01:23 PM
    spitvenom

    Speech I didn't know you are an Oprah fan.
  • May 6, 2009, 01:29 PM
    Sunflowers

    I take it you are not a fan.
  • May 6, 2009, 01:31 PM
    spitvenom

    I really don't relate to Oprah.
  • May 6, 2009, 01:32 PM
    Sunflowers

    No not Oprah, Michelle Obama
  • May 6, 2009, 01:36 PM
    Tokugawa
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    She's very sane

    Such a refreshing change after all the very insane first ladies there have been down the years:rolleyes:.
  • May 6, 2009, 01:37 PM
    spitvenom

    Oh no I think Michelle is great. A little to early to call her the greatest first lady ever. She seems nice, sweet, and genuine. I just like messing with speech. He is a cool guy.
  • May 6, 2009, 01:37 PM
    speechlesstx
    No, I'm not a fan of either. I find the worship of both ladies a little disturbing.
  • May 6, 2009, 01:40 PM
    spitvenom
    Come on speech you know you have the O magazine with Michelle on the cover framed hanging next to you right now.:D
  • May 6, 2009, 01:47 PM
    speechlesstx
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    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Come on speech you know you have the O magazine with Michelle on the cover framed hanging next to you right now.:D

    What, and take down my framed Bush-Cheney poster?
  • May 6, 2009, 01:49 PM
    tomder55
    I'll nominate Abigail Adams... both a 1st lady and mother of a President . Born today she would've achieved a greatness that none of the contemporary 1st ladies could match. She was John Adams closest political and moral advisor while he served as President . He called her his "fellow labourer and Mrs. President ."

    Her letters to both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson are must reads to understand the time of the founding .She held her own intellectually with both.
  • May 6, 2009, 01:49 PM
    spitvenom

    One on the wall one on the mantle. See we are hitting that elusive middle ground the left and right are always looking for.
  • May 6, 2009, 01:53 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I'll nominate Abigail Adams....both a 1st lady and mother of a President . Born today she would've achieved a greatness that none of the contemporary 1st ladies could match. She was John Adams closest political and moral advisor while he served as President . He called her his "fellow labourer and Mrs. President ."

    Her letters to both John Adams and Thomas Jefferson are must reads to understand the time of the founding .She held her own intellectually with both.

    Great choice, tom. Unfortunately she didn't wear $540 sneakers.
  • May 6, 2009, 01:53 PM
    N0help4u

    Yeah when I heard that I said typical do as I say not as I do. Like when Teresa Heinz went through Etna to see the Ivan damage
    She said, "I wish there was something I could do" as she watched the workers hauling the damaged things out of the houses and stores.
    They said she could have at least bought them a case of Iron City and a case of Heinz Ketchup and some hot dogs.

    Michelle O has figuratively put her foot in her mouth a few times just like Obama and I doubt it will be the last.
  • May 6, 2009, 01:54 PM
    speechlesstx
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    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    one on the wall one on the mantle. see we are hitting that elusive middle ground the left and right are always looking for.

    Can I still keep my dog Molly as my desktop wallpaper?
  • May 6, 2009, 01:56 PM
    spitvenom

    Hey good thing McCain didn't get elected His wife's outfits cost thousands upon thousands of dollars. So you would be saying the same thing about how much her sneakers cost Right Speech.
  • May 6, 2009, 01:56 PM
    spitvenom
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    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Can I still keep my dog Molly as my desktop wallpaper?

    Yeah you can keep Molly!
  • May 6, 2009, 02:17 PM
    speechlesstx
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    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Hey good thing McCain didn't get elected His wifes outfits cost thousands upon thousands of dollars. So you would be saying the same thing about how much her sneakers cost Right Speech.

    Actually I don't know that Cindy wears sneakers. She can afford to wear whatever she wants but I she would not have gotten near the adulation in the media. Heck, I thought Laura Bush was a great first lady - smart, pretty, always well dressed, pleasant and articulate.
  • May 6, 2009, 02:41 PM
    tomder55
    Also would like to give kudos to Edith Wilson . One of the closest advisors to President Woodrow Wilson ,she was in fact for all practical purposes the acting President after he had a stroke from Sept. 1919 until the end of Wilson's term .During that time she took over many of the duties and details of government .She did not initiate programs .She delegated much of the decision making to his cabinet.But ,effectively the chief of staff, she read all papers and documents, made priorities over policy; and decided which issues would go to the president ,and which people would see the president.
  • May 6, 2009, 03:18 PM
    Sunflowers

    I wonder if anyone knows who the worse first lady was?
  • May 6, 2009, 03:59 PM
    galveston
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    Originally Posted by Sunflowers View Post
    I wonder if anyone knows who the worse first lady was?

    Not yet.

    Did she wear the sneakers to a State dinner?
  • May 6, 2009, 05:29 PM
    speechlesstx
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    Originally Posted by Sunflowers View Post
    I wonder if anyone knows who the worse first lady was?

    My instinct would to be to nominate the current Secretary of State but that may not be fair.
  • May 7, 2009, 02:36 AM
    tomder55

    I'd have to go with either Mary Todd Lincoln or Florence Kling Harding... Probably Harding because there were suspicions that she had her husband killed (not that I blame her .He was a cad philanderer worse then Slick Willie) .

    Mary Todd Lincoln ? The 1st thing she did entering the White House during the nations worse crisis was to redecorate . She also is the model for Michelle Obama's fashion sense. She frequently made trips to NY to lavishly shop. Shopping was an addiction or a remedy for her many mental health issues.
  • May 7, 2009, 06:33 AM
    spitvenom

    Gal I think she wore them on the today show or some show like that.
  • May 7, 2009, 06:46 AM
    speechlesstx
    Supposedly she wears them to walk the dog, 'they're just shoes' she said. She was caught sporting them while volunteering at the DC food bank to help feed the poor.
  • May 7, 2009, 08:04 AM
    spitvenom

    I agree they are just shoes. I have a pair $250 and $125 pair of sneakers from a company called undrcrwn. I say if you have the money where whatever you want. Oh and here is a preemptive answer to the well she was wearing them to a food bank comment. So what!
  • May 7, 2009, 08:06 AM
    tomder55

    That would have course be our answer... wear what you please.

    But in her case it appears to be just another hypocrisy.
  • May 7, 2009, 08:15 AM
    spitvenom

    Why is it Hypocrisy? I missed what she said
  • May 7, 2009, 08:24 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Why is it Hypocricy? I missed what she said

    Personally I think it's a little insensitive to wear $540 sneakers to feed the poor, but then the "poor" in America is often a misnomer. The hypocrisy is in her celebrated "cost conscious" approach to fashion which was widely trumpeted in the media while they were slamming Sarah Palin's expensive wardrobe. Now it appears to be spare no expense.
  • May 7, 2009, 08:33 AM
    spitvenom

    I am confused did she say she was cost conscious or did the media label her as cost conscious.
  • May 7, 2009, 08:43 AM
    tomder55

    She's a hypocrite because she and hubby have touted the class warfare garbage to rise to power. She reminds me of 'Raibow High' in Evita.

    I came from the people
    They need to adore me
    So Christian Dior me
    From my head to my toes
    I need to be dazzling
    I want to be Rainbow High!
    They must have excitement
    And so must I


    I'm their savior!
    That's what they call me
    So Lauren Bacall me
    Anything goes
    To make me fantastic
    I have to be Rainbow High
    In magical colors--

    You're not decorating a girl for a night on the town!
    And I'm not a second-rate queen getting kicks with a crown!


    This is a women who goes to make an address at universities blasting conspicuous consumption and argued that graduates should resist the temptation for big buck industries and instead look for careers in public service that would require the foreswearing of material gain.

    "We left corporate America, which is a lot of what we're asking young people to do" "Don't go into corporate America. You know, become teachers. Work for the community. Be social workers. Be a nurse. Those are the careers that we need, and we're encouraging our young people to do that."
  • May 7, 2009, 08:52 AM
    spitvenom

    Yeah those J crew and H&M outfits really Lauren Becall her. You guys are really R E A C H I N G on this one
  • May 7, 2009, 09:15 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Yeah those J crew and H&M outfits really Lauren Becall her. you guys are really R E A C H I N G on this one

    It's no reach Spit, it's old news. The left gets obsessed with decrying excesses of rich Republicans but doesn't blink at their own excesses. But the shoes were just part of the larger point of this thread, a) how in God's name can anyone declare Michelle Obama to be "the greatest First Lady we've ever known" 3 months into the administration, and b) where the hell is the adversarial media? We're getting puff pieces on the kind of crap I mentioned and things like Joe and O went to have a hamburger.

    I used to wonder if the left had lost their minds over their obsession with hating Bush. After watching all the drooling over the Obama's I think I can safely say they that's no longer in doubt.
  • May 7, 2009, 09:25 AM
    tomder55

    http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/9...ea8496a8b8.jpg

    Uhh mr president... that's not your teleprompter .
  • May 7, 2009, 09:28 AM
    spitvenom

    I already agreed with you that no one can claim she is the greatest first lady ever since she hasn't even been there a year.

    Oh I agree about the hamburger piece. But if it wasn't that puff piece then it would have been a different puff piece. That is why I don't watch the news. In philly the news usually starts with someone getting shot, Then a corruption story about some philly cop then puff story, then another puff story, then A is something in your home killing you story, then sports, then weather then more puff.

    I just hate it so much
  • May 7, 2009, 09:32 AM
    spitvenom
    You guys are just mad because Obama knows what a teleprompter is. And Bush kept asking where his cartoons were every time they turned the teleprompter on. (sorry I couldn't resist)
  • May 7, 2009, 09:35 AM
    tomder55

    Imagine the outrage and media feeding frenzy if President Bush had eaten at this restaurant under this sexploitation movie poster ?
    http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7...e354c84bc3.jpg
  • May 7, 2009, 09:37 AM
    tomder55
    http://d.yimg.com/a/p/rids/20090505/...BbzGeH8ZlrXg--

    You want me to put some chump change in the tip jar ? Might as well... you'll be paying it back in taxes anyway!!
  • May 7, 2009, 09:38 AM
    tomder55
    Joe Biden asked for a Nuevo Texican Whopper
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_4OYGjUrdll...an-whopper.jpg
  • May 7, 2009, 09:43 AM
    spitvenom

    Tom come on no claims tip jar money on their taxes!

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