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  • Feb 15, 2009, 08:28 PM
    galveston
    What if?
    Obama's approval rating looks like it's already starting to slide.
    What if those ratings drop sharply?
    Do you think that some of those people responsible for his meteoric rise would rather have a martyr than a failed president? If so, they would attempt to blame it on the conservatives.
    Now lest some of you think I secretly hope for his early and violent demise, let me assure you that is not so. I would rather see him voted out in 4 years and be done with him than to have him become a martyr that we would never hear the last of.

    Just wondering what you think.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 05:03 AM
    excon

    Hello gal:

    Are you asking whether Obama supporters would rather see him DEAD than fail? That's a pretty bizarre question. What kind of email did you get?

    And, if somebody does do him in, you DON'T think it would be a conservative?? Really.

    Plus, you bring up his death out of the blue, and try then to convince us that you don't want him dead...

    I think you need to go to church and ask for forgiveness.

    excon
  • Feb 16, 2009, 05:39 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    I think you need to go to church and ask for forgiveness.

    I agree. The question is borderline creepy and seems to want to ste the idea in people's heads.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 03:02 PM
    Skell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Now lest some of you think I secretly hope for his early and violent demise, let me assure you that is not so. I would rather see him voted out in 4 years and be done with him than to have him become a martyr that we would never hear the last of.

    So what you're really saying is that the only reason you can come up with that you hope he doesn't get killed is because you would get sick of hearing about him? Not because a man is dead, but because his death would cause inconvenience to you by way of having to hear about him forever and a day.

    Weird!!
  • Feb 16, 2009, 04:41 PM
    galveston

    Hey, Ex. Don't you recognize a hypothetical question when you see it? I thought you were supposed to be smart.
    By the way, Christians do not deal in assaination. Communists DO.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 04:45 PM
    kp2171
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Hey, Ex. Don't you recognize a hypothetical question when you see it? I thought you were supposed to be smart.
    By the way, Christians do not deal in assaination. Communists DO.

    Wow.

    Speechless.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 06:14 PM
    twinkiedooter

    Galveston - Yes, I was wondering something along the same lines as your hypothetical question as well not too long ago.

    I do think that if he was assassinated by a handgun then all handguns and guns of any kind would be banned totally in America. Now, if he were the unfortunate victim of say a bombing, I don't think they're going to ban bombs.

    When a politician outlives their usefulness, they are just cast aside like so much litter as history has shown us.

    It would not surprise me one bit if there was an assassination and he was declared "dead" when in fact he was not dead at all but had a double endure this assassination while the real O had his face surgically altered and he flees this country to go live elsewhere in extravagant luxury.

    He would have fulfilled his "role" of bringing America to its knees finanancially and successfully sidestepped any attempt at having to reveal his true identity, where he was born, what his real name is, etc. Very convenient not having to prove anything and becoming a martyr at the same time. Genius.

    Your hypothetical question is very interesting and probably more real than you can imagine.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 06:31 PM
    NeedKarma
    ^^

    These people scare me. Thank god I'm not in the same country.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 07:47 PM
    twinkiedooter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    ^^

    These people scare me. Thank god I'm not in the same country.

    You Canadians scare me. I stay out of Canada.
  • Feb 16, 2009, 09:44 PM
    cozyk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Hey, Ex. Don't you recognize a hypothetical question when you see it? I thought you were supposed to be smart.
    By the way, Christians do not deal in assaination. Communists DO.

    You are a christian?? I bet all the other christians are cringing. The other conservatives too!:eek:
  • Feb 16, 2009, 09:47 PM
    cozyk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    Galveston - Yes, I was wondering something along the same lines as your hypothetical question as well not too long ago.

    I do think that if he was assasinated by a handgun then all handguns and guns of any kind would be banned totally in America. Now, if he were the unfortunate victim of say a bombing, I don't think they're going to ban bombs.

    When a politician outlives their usefulness, they are just cast aside like so much litter as history has shown us.

    It would not surprise me one bit if there was an assassination and he was declared "dead" when in fact he was not dead at all but had a double endure this assassination while the real O had his face surgically altered and he flees this country to go live elsewhere in extravagant luxury.

    He would have fulfilled his "role" of bringing America to its knees finanancially and successfully sidestepped any attempt at having to reveal his true identity, where he was born, what his real name is, etc. Very convenient not having to prove anything and becoming a martyr at the same time. Genius.

    Your hypothetical question is very interesting and probably more real than you can imagine.

    OMG:eek: Am I on Candid Camera? :eek:Please say yes... someone///anyone?
  • Feb 16, 2009, 09:51 PM
    cozyk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    ^^

    These people scare me. Thank god I'm not in the same country.

    My daughter and son-in-law live in Canada. I may have to join them. These people scare the bejesus out of me.:eek:
  • Feb 16, 2009, 10:44 PM
    Skell
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    Galveston - Yes, I was wondering something along the same lines as your hypothetical question as well not too long ago.

    I do think that if he was assasinated by a handgun then all handguns and guns of any kind would be banned totally in America. Now, if he were the unfortunate victim of say a bombing, I don't think they're going to ban bombs.

    When a politician outlives their usefulness, they are just cast aside like so much litter as history has shown us.

    It would not surprise me one bit if there was an assassination and he was declared "dead" when in fact he was not dead at all but had a double endure this assassination while the real O had his face surgically altered and he flees this country to go live elsewhere in extravagant luxury.

    He would have fulfilled his "role" of bringing America to its knees finanancially and successfully sidestepped any attempt at having to reveal his true identity, where he was born, what his real name is, etc. Very convenient not having to prove anything and becoming a martyr at the same time. Genius.

    Your hypothetical question is very interesting and probably more real than you can imagine.

    Any credibility you had, if indeed you had any at all, has completely gone with that post!

    Fake deaths, identity changes, martyrs... You watch too much TV.

    Hahahaha. Too funny!!
  • Feb 17, 2009, 04:34 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    I stay out of Canada.

    From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 05:31 AM
    tomder55
    Although I share everyone's abhorrence about the topic, I find the outrage selective .

    Death of a President (2006)
  • Feb 17, 2009, 05:35 AM
    NeedKarma
    A movie no one's heard of or saw? You feel there wasn't enough outrage about that movie here? No one saw it or ever heard about it! Meanwhile we are commenting on a topic posted by one of the members here. Your logic is faulty.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 05:55 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    A movie no one's heard of or saw? You feel there wasn't enough outrage about that movie here? No one saw it or ever heard about it! Meanwhile we are commenting on a topic posted by one of the members here. Your logic is faulty.

    It would be a good thing were it a movie no one saw, but it's certainly NOT "a movie no one's heard of." It's release and the controversy surrounding it was in all the papers and probably every cable and network news show, where were you? Thankfully, two of our biggest cinema chains refused to show it.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 05:59 AM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Thankfully, two of our biggest cinema chains refused to show it

    Hello Steve:

    I'm sure for the very reasons we're NOT discussing the post, but the poster.

    excon
  • Feb 17, 2009, 06:00 AM
    NeedKarma
    Here's the box office receipts: Death of a President (2006) - Box office / business
    The film went nowhere. I'm not surprised it made the news in Texas. :rolleyes:
  • Feb 17, 2009, 06:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I'm not surprised it made the news in Texas. :rolleyes:

    Right, as if the NY Times, FNC, LA Times, USA Today, NPR and the Guardian have a special Texas edition. Those were the prominent hits on the search I linked. Better luck next time.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 06:32 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Steve:

    I'm sure for the very reasons we're NOT discussing the post, but the poster.

    Agreed, but tom does have a point.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 06:37 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Agreed, but tom does have a point.

    Feel free to post as many indie films as you want that no one has or will ever see. In the meanwhile we are responding to what we see now - this topic.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 06:59 AM
    tomder55

    Also consider that this subject was brought up before by Excon during the campaign and it was considered a valid topic for conversation

    https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/curren...ed-273403.html
  • Feb 17, 2009, 07:15 AM
    spitvenom

    Add me to the list of people who have never heard of that movie until today.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 07:17 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Feel free to post as many indie films as you want that no one has or will ever see. In the meanwhile we are responding to what we see now - this topic.

    NK, I'm always thankful that we have you as board monitor. What would we do if you weren't around to tell us all what's relevant, what isn't and what's worth discussing? We'd just be lost around here :rolleyes:
  • Feb 17, 2009, 07:26 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    NK, I'm always thankful that we have you as board monitor.

    You're welcome. Now behave.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 08:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    You're welcome. Now behave.

    Never! ;)
  • Feb 17, 2009, 10:35 AM
    galveston

    Well, well, well!!
    Looks like I hit a nerve!
  • Feb 17, 2009, 11:27 AM
    twinkiedooter

    So does everyone think that Kenneth Lay actually died in Aspen?

    It's amazing how easily someone can fake their death, get a little plastic surgery to alter their mug, and retire to where ever they wish in this world with no one looking over their shoulder at them.

    Big money talks and can buy virtually any one, anytime.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 11:30 AM
    twinkiedooter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Well, well, well!!!
    Looks like I hit a nerve!

    Galveston - apparently you did and they don't like it. They can't think outside the box. It's amazing that only the people living outside USA are really upset. Australia and Canada. Two countries that have practically no rights left. And no, I don't want to be like them either.

    And just who are they to say we are wrong?
  • Feb 17, 2009, 11:32 AM
    twinkiedooter
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Never! ;)

    Me neither!! :D:D
  • Feb 17, 2009, 11:32 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    Australia and Canada. Two countries that have practically no rights left.

    Spoken from true ignorance.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 02:08 PM
    cozyk
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twinkiedooter View Post
    Galveston - apparently you did and they don't like it. They can't think outside the box. It's amazing that only the people living outside USA are really upset. Australia and Canada. Two countries that have practically no rights left. And no, I don't want to be like them either.

    And just who are they to say we are wrong?

    Where do you get that? I'm upset with your craziness and I'm in the US? You are not thinking outside the box. Don't flatter yourself. You are just having evil thoughts.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 03:48 PM
    galveston

    I can't be too far off! I'm getting hate mail from some who haven't even posted here.
    Come on out of the closet and let everyone know what you think.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 03:58 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by galveston View Post
    Come on out of the closet ...

    I think you just did. :)
  • Feb 17, 2009, 04:05 PM
    galveston
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I think you just did. :)

    Nice try, NK, but I'm not the one sending private messages. I did notice that you smiled when you said that though.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 04:05 PM
    excon

    Hello gal:

    Maybe this is evidence of the disconnect between sides...

    I don't know what you think you're not far off from. What I know, is that the people you're disconnected from, think what you said is very, very bizarre.

    When I mentioned it, I did so because I was afraid it could happen.

    Your mention of it, has to do with a political ploy the left might try to pull on you, should this terrible event come to pass.

    Your post is off the wall. It's macabre.

    I don't, however, believe you had any malice before you posted it.

    I do find it interesting that the only people who don't think your post is weird, are the wingers on YOUR side.

    Tom said I mentioned it first, so I guess all posts regarding the death of Obama are now fair game. He's bonkers.

    excon
  • Feb 17, 2009, 04:08 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    I don't, however, believe you had any malice before you posted it.

    I think it does show malice, it follows a pattern of threads started from the same poster.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 04:12 PM
    galveston

    Do any of you REALLY think Communists or other similar persuasions WOULDN'T kill one of their own to further their agenda?
    I felt the need to add the disclaimer because some would imply that I was calling for a political murder.
    It looks like some did so in spite of that disclaimer.
  • Feb 17, 2009, 04:13 PM
    tomder55

    I'm bonkers! Lol .

    Kennedy was slain by a lone gunman and for 45 years I've heard everyone from the a cabal of the CIA and the military ;the mafia, Castro ,and LBJ blamed .

    Your conspiracy theory was no more valid speculation then gals regardless of how genuinely you felt it .

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