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  • Oct 11, 2008, 10:01 AM
    Choux
    John McCain Scolds Radical Right Wing Supporter
    Last night, John McCain *scolded* a radical right wing woman who accused Obama of being an Arab and "scaring her".

    McCain and Palin are drawing audiences who are predominately from the radical right wing haters, not regular independents and republicans. They are an angry mob and nothing more. They come to be riled up and shout obsenities from the audience to the speaker's hatemongering... HE'S A TERRORIST, KILL HIM, and other terrible comments.

    Well, McCain's and Palin's hatemongering is scaring me. America is a country with a history of assassination and we have millions of right wing haters just waiting for the green light to act on their evil feelings.
  • Oct 11, 2008, 10:23 AM
    Galveston1
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Choux View Post
    Last night, John McCain *scolded* a radical right wing woman who accused Obama of being an Arab and "scaring her".

    McCain and Palin are drawing audiences who are predominately from the radical right wing haters, not regular independents and republicans. They come to be riled up and shout obsenities from the audience to the speaker's hatemongering....HE'S A TERRORIST, KILL HIM, and other terrible comments.

    Well, McCain's and Palin's hatemongering is scaring me. America is a country with a history of assassination and we have millions of right wing haters just waiting for the green light to act on their evil feelings.

    Where are you coming up with this mis-information?
  • Oct 11, 2008, 10:27 AM
    Choux

    I watch it happening LIVE on cable television.
  • Oct 11, 2008, 10:35 AM
    excon
    Hello Choux:

    Well, he didn't SCOLD her when she said Obama was an Arab. He politely corrected her. Gal, you should be happy that he showed some character.

    I guess his smear tactics were working too good. Plus, the town hall structure was BOUND to bring this question to him, and it did. To his credit, McCain stood up, and in the process, hoisted himself up on his own petard..

    Poor John.

    excon
  • Oct 11, 2008, 10:47 AM
    Choux

    Ex I, too, was so glad to see him show some of his former self as a guy with character... but he has fallen so far in his screwy Presidential Campaign. Fallen to a rable rouser for radical right wing haters.

    Maybe he can redeem himself after the election by helping Obama in the banking crisis and the stock market crash.
  • Oct 13, 2008, 07:18 AM
    tomder55

    For years the left has been ranting and railing against the right, threatening to "take to the streets", and actually taking it to the streets in angry protests .No one was very much concerned about their rhetoric or tone. There were more than one play or movie as an example that had a central theme as the assassination of President Bush .More than one comparison of President Bush to terrorists or Hitler etc.

    Now the right started to get angry and the left now thinks anger is bad? Lol McCain did the right thing perhaps but do you think Obama and the Obots will force their followers to tone it down also ? I kind of doubt it. For every attendee at a McCain rally that goes over the top I can find hundreds of over the top comments almost daily just on the Daily Kooks blog.

    And how about actual acts of violence or destruction ?

    Quote:

    At 1:43am on Saturday morning, Portland Fire & Rescue's Investigators arrested two people. They burned a campaign sign of McCain using Molotov cocktails, located at 7956 SE 17th Ave. causing only minimal damage. After a thorough interview and investigation of the case, they were both charged for:

    Manufacturing of a destructive device
    Possession of a destructive device

    Both were charged with four counts for each felony offense, for a total of eight charges for each, and one was charged with reckless burning.
    Internet Information Network=

    Quote:

    Vandals spray-painted the words “Republican means slavery” on the door of the York County GOP campaign headquarters overnight Friday.
    Party volunteers called police after discovering the message when they arrived at the office on Rock Hill's Oakland Avenue. The vandals also stole about 45 candidate signs from the front yard and spray-painted over a banner that carried a picture of Republican presidential nominee John McCain. Their messages included lettering and symbols sometimes used by gangs.
    The Herald | HeraldOnline.com - Vandals strike York County GOP headquarters - Rock Hill, SC

    Or will Obama tone down his rhetoric ?

    "I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors," ..."I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face."

    Or perhaps tell officials who support him that the Alien and Sedition Act is long ago defunct .
    In September, St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce warned citizens that they would bring criminal libel prosecutions against anyone who made statements against Obama that were "false."
  • Oct 13, 2008, 07:46 AM
    NeedKarma
    The McCain / Palin mob:



  • Oct 13, 2008, 07:56 AM
    tomder55

    YouTube - Liberal Outrage: A Pro-McCain March In Manhattan
  • Oct 13, 2008, 07:59 AM
    tomder55
    Speaking of ugly politics

    Politics in Canada turn ugly - and dangerous - International Herald Tribune
  • Oct 13, 2008, 08:06 AM
    excon
    Hello tom:

    I don't know. I musta missed the Obama supporter calling for McCain to be killed. I didn't hear 'em calling McCain any inflamitory names, either. Oh, there was booing... but booing and calling for his death ain't the same. To bad it IS to YOU, tom.

    excon
  • Oct 13, 2008, 08:19 AM
    tomder55

    Clearly you did not read the 1st paragraph I wrote. I guess it is OK to say those things about a sitting President ?
  • Oct 13, 2008, 10:47 AM
    tomder55
    From the great Victor Davis Hanson

    Quote:

    A couple of thoughts: the George Bush, Sr. / Willie Horton campaign was far tougher; so were the Bush 2000/2004 efforts. If anything, McCain's campaign is subdued in comparison to what we've seen on both sides in past years.


    Obama and his surrogates have repeatedly engaged in racial politics (as Bill Clinton lamented when in fury he denounced the "race card"). When there was never evidence that McCain was using race as a wedge issue, it was clear Obama most surely was--preemptively, on at least two occasions--warning Americans he would soon be the victim of opposition racial stereotyping.
    His surrogates like Biden and those in the Senate continue to link legitimate worries about Obama's past with racism. Second, for about 3 months all we've heard are references to McCain's age, with adjectives and phrases like confused, can't remember any more, disturbed, lost his bearings, etc.
    Moreover, so far, McCain supporters have not broken into Biden's email, or accused Biden of being a Nazi, or accused anyone of not bearing one of their own children, or photo-shopped grotesque pictures of Obama on the Internet (as in the Atlantic magazine case). I don't think deranged McCain supporters in Hollywood or television almost daily are quoted as damning Obama in unusually crude terms. Nor are white racist ministers calling McCain a 'messiah' or McCain operatives fraudulently swarming voter registration centers. And on and on.


    Obama, as I have said ad nauseam, has brilliantly prepped the battlefield to such a degree that a Farrakhan endorsement or surrogates calling Palin a quasi-Nazi or a bimbo, or smearing McCain as near senile is irrelevant; yet one screamer in a crowd of tens of thousands is proof of McCain's and Palin's racism and hatred.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...ping_ship.html
  • Oct 13, 2008, 01:30 PM
    speechlesstx
    Hanson is right. The hypocrisy is completely lost on the left, it's the crowd that can complain about this alleged threat to kill Obama with a suggestion to lynch the guy, "This man should NOT be prosecuted...He should be grabbed and dropped in the middle of Compton at hign noon with a sign around his neck explaining what he said."

    Ex, these are the people that can respond to "boos" from the crowd with "it reminded me of - the scene from "Oh, Brother, Where Art Thou?". The scene was a KKK rally in which they were ready to hang a black man."

    These are the same people that complain of "messages filled with hate," fear-mongering, race baiting, bigotry, "a cancer, so reminiscent of the 60's race wars," and yet celebrate the unhinged Sandra Bernhard's message as "in the end, oddly and subtly... positive."

    Quote:

    In fact, the play wears its politically VERY correct heart on its sleeve with its indictment of America as "A Man’s World, It’s a White Man’s World, It’s a F–ked Up White Man’s Racist World" and can only be suggested to be racist in its content if one is hell-bent on protecting White Folk for Sandra’s blistering indictment. When Sandra warns Sarah Palin not to come into Manhattan lest she get gang-raped by some of Sandra’s big black brothers, she’s being provocative, combative, humorous, and yes, let’s allow, disgusting.
    This is the same crowd that can call Madonna "amazing" for showing "images of destruction, global warming, Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler, Zimbabwe's authoritarian President Robert Mugabe - and the presumptive Republican presidential nominee" at a concert...while of course showing a sequence with "slain Beatle John Lennon, climate activist Al Gore, Mahatma Gandhi and finally Barack Obama" as the crowd goes wild.

    This selective outrage is appalling.
  • Oct 13, 2008, 04:43 PM
    Galveston1

    Can anyone say for SURE that those isolated idiots screaming are NOT Obama plants?? That would be typical of the Democrat play book.

    You are right about one thing though. There is a lot of anger out here, and it is directed against news agencies that have prostituted themselves to the liberal cause and can no longer even tell the difference between truth and fiction. There is no such thing with them as objectivity. They should be openly on the payroll of the Democrat party.
    There are a few who still give some balance but they are vastly outnumbered.
  • Oct 14, 2008, 02:15 PM
    speechlesstx
    Is the media reporting on Obama supporters wearing these shirts? Are you Obama supporters here going to have as much outrage over this as one guy at a McCain rally?

    http://worldofwonder.net/images4/wow...eesjpeg-tm.jpg

    Or how about this Halloween display portraying McCain as a klansman chasing Obama? Where's the outrage?

    http://cmsimg.stargazette.com/apps/p...W=180&Border=0
  • Oct 14, 2008, 03:01 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Is the media reporting on Obama supporters wearing these shirts? Are you Obama supporters here going to have as much outrage over this as one guy at a McCain rally?

    That word shouldn't't bother you - that's what McCain calls his own wife.
  • Oct 14, 2008, 03:47 PM
    BABRAM

    McCain finally showed some fortitude by grabbing the microphone and shutting up one his many racist supporters. That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect.
  • Oct 14, 2008, 05:01 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BABRAM View Post
    McCain finally showed some fortitude by grabbing the microphone and shutting up one his many racist supporters. That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect.

    And your proof is what?
  • Oct 14, 2008, 05:02 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    That word shouldn't't bother you - that's what McCain calls his own wife.

    Try making sense, NK.
  • Oct 14, 2008, 05:08 PM
    BABRAM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    And your proof is what?


    We just discussed the older woman that didn't like Obama because she thought he was an Arab. Pull your head out. ;)
  • Oct 15, 2008, 05:03 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BABRAM View Post
    We just discussed the older woman that didn't like Obama because she thought he was an Arab. Pull your head out. ;)

    One woman asking a stupid question proves this how?

    Quote:

    That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect.
  • Oct 15, 2008, 01:01 PM
    BABRAM
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    One woman asking a stupid question proves this how?


    Huh? I welcome you to the real United States where even this board reflects prejudice and ignorance. Wake up!!


    Former McCain Supporter: McCain Is "Unleashing the Monster of American Prejudice" | Rights and Liberties | AlterNet

    YouTube - Racist McCain Palin Supporters

    McCain, Palin turn to risky politics :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Mary Mitchell

    Racism Revealed At McCain/Palin Rallies / Queerty

    McCain camp defends the behavior? - First Read - msnbc.com

    Jeffrey Feldman: Is Palin Trying To Incite Violence Against Obama?

    Oxdown Gazette » McCain heard the man shout “Kill him!” at HIS rally..

    TPM Election Central | Talking Points Memo | Palin Supporter On Obama: "Kill Him"

    Think Progress » McCain offers no response to supporter who yells out that Obama is a 'terrorist.'

    McCain Scolds Ignorant and Racist Supporters - Topic Lexington, N.C. forums

    Obama Thanks McCain for Admonishing Supporters - The Caucus Blog - NYTimes.com

    Keith Olbermann Calls on McCain to Suspend His Campaign - Liberal Values - Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought
  • Oct 15, 2008, 01:55 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BABRAM View Post
    Huh?! I welcome you to the real United States where even this board reflects prejudice and ignorance. Wake up!!!

    Uh, repeatedly citing the same 3 incidents is hardly proof of "That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect." Add to the Obama supporters wearing “Sarah Palin is a c***” shirts, the KKK Halloween display, Sandra Bernhard’s threat of “gang rape” and Madonna’s comparing McCain to Hitler that I posted earlier:

    PDS, Harlem-Style: Rangel Calls Palin 'Disabled'

    Canadian columnist: ‘White Trash’ Palin Has ‘Porn Actress Look’

    Abort Palin graffiti in Seattle

    http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/m...09/1abortp.jpg

    Randi Rhodes: Palin can't be trusted with teen boys

    Maine TV anchor is Sarah Palin lookalike - getting "hate mail and nasty phone calls"

    The Most Offensive Palin Hit Yet

    Rep. Alcee Hastings: “anybody toting guns and stripping moose don’t care too much about what they do with Jews and blacks
  • Oct 15, 2008, 02:19 PM
    BABRAM

    Steve, you do this to yourself all the time.

    Here's a direct quote from you...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    One woman asking a stupid question proves this how?

    Obviously she is not. BTW it was her stupid prejudice statement that got her recognized, not asking a question. Now if I didn't give you a few extra sources, you'd just k'vetch that it was unreliable information. You do more good for the Obama campaign than you realize. Barack should be sending you a check for all the help you constantly provide him.
  • Oct 15, 2008, 03:18 PM
    speechlesstx
    Bobby, if you wouldn't move the goal post on every play you might be able to keep up.
  • Oct 15, 2008, 04:27 PM
    BABRAM

    Steve, do you have attention deficit disorder, or is it hypertension? Look at what just transpired:

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    One woman asking a stupid question proves this how?

    I answered with a several links in recent news. You were mistaken.

    In reply you then chose to post a few links concerning idiots against McCain/Palin that have taken it too personal. Now who moved the goal posts? How hyprocitical of you once again. If you want to skip talking about the prejudices of some McCain supporters in their ignorance against Obama, that's fine. Just let me know. I'm up for any discussion. Just say so! But don't lie and say I moved the goal posts. Stop asking people questions if you don't want to hear the facts.
  • Oct 15, 2008, 08:44 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BABRAM View Post
    Steve, do you have attention deficit disorder, or is it hypertension?

    Still with the personal attacks and avoidance of the facts which show my memory is just fine. The challenge to you was and still is to prove your outrageous claim:

    Quote:

    "That whole week the McCain campaign had surrogates setup on stops and positioned with timely outbursts to stimulate a pep rally effect."
    It's very simple Bobby, neither one woman asking a stupid question (or making a stupid statement or whatever) or repeated references to the same few morons proves your claim that McCain set up these "timely outbursts" for "that whole week" or for any time at all. You expect us to believe that McCain would purposely stage idiotic BS like that - as if it would somehow benefit him no less - in spite of the fact that he repudiated these people to the boos of some in the crowd. How gullible do you really think we are, Bobby?

    You can get your panties in a wad and take your pathetic cheap shots at me and every other conservative around all you want, it just puts you in the same category as the eleven distinctly different disturbing examples of hatred, intolerance, arrogance and bigotry from the left I've referred to here. You can have the three idiots you're complaining about, too... you all make a really nice match.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 10:06 AM
    speechlesstx
    Here's one of your claims refuted:

    Secret Service says "Kill him" allegation unfounded

    Quote:

    By Andrew M. Seder
    Staff Writer

    SCRANTON – The agent in charge of the Secret Service field office in Scranton said allegations that someone yelled “kill him” when presidential hopeful Barack Obama’s name was mentioned during Tuesday’s Sarah Palin rally are unfounded.

    The Scranton Times-Tribune first reported the alleged incident on its Web site Tuesday and then again in its print edition Wednesday. The first story, written by reporter David Singleton, appeared with allegations that while congressional candidate Chris Hackett was addressing the crowd and mentioned Obama’s name a man in the audience shouted “kill him."

    News organizations including ABC, The Associated Press, The Washington Monthly and MSNBC’s Countdown with Keith Olbermann reported the claim, with most attributing the allegations to the Times-Tribune story.

    Agent Bill Slavoski said he was in the audience, along with an undisclosed number of additional secret service agents and other law enforcement officers and not one heard the comment.

    “I was baffled,” he said after reading the report in Wednesday’s Times-Tribune.

    He said the agency conducted an investigation Wednesday, after seeing the story, and could not find one person to corroborate the allegation other than Singleton.

    Slavoski said more than 20 non-security agents were interviewed Wednesday, from news media to ordinary citizens in attendance at the rally for the Republican vice presidential candidate held at the Riverfront Sports Complex. He said Singleton was the only one to say he heard someone yell “kill him.”

    “We have yet to find someone to back up the story,” Slavoski said. “We had people all over and we have yet to find anyone who said they heard it.”

    Hackett said he did not hear the remark.

    Slavoski said Singleton was interviewed Wednesday and stood by his story but couldn’t give a description of the man because he didn’t see him he only heard him.

    When contacted Wednesday afternoon, Singleton referred questions to Times-Tribune Metro Editor Jeff Sonderman. Sonderman said, “We stand by the story. The facts reported are true and that’s really all there is.”

    Slavoski said the agents take such threats or comments seriously and immediately opened an investigation but after due diligence “as far as we’re concerned it’s closed unless someone comes forward.” He urged anyone with knowledge of the alleged incident to call him at 346-5781. “We’ll run at all leads,” he said.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 10:24 AM
    NeedKarma
    YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
    Search results for "kill him"
  • Oct 16, 2008, 11:42 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
    Search results for "kill him"

    LOLOL, you really, really must think we're stupid. Neither the quantity of reports or angry exclamation marks above the video make it true. The first link from Democracy Now claimed it was so. The second from that moonbat Rhandi Rhodes, started with "and there is no audio of this." The third said "there have been reports." Well guess what NK, the Secret Service refuted the reports. It's really very simple.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 11:50 AM
    NeedKarma
    Well if the secret service said it never happened then I'm glad.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 11:51 AM
    speechlesstx
    The reports of vile, hate filled Obama supporters I listed here and here are true. As are these images of the "elevated political discourse" from Obama supporters at a Palin rally in California:

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3210/...603f0096_o.jpg

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/...bb7087ae_o.jpg

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3013/...3661ea79_o.jpg

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2162/...90f48df6_o.jpg

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/...3b9293ae_o.jpg

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3205/...cf727804_o.jpg
  • Oct 16, 2008, 12:21 PM
    NeedKarma
    Do we have to play the "who can post the most images" contest Steve? 'Cause I can fill this thread up with images of vile, hate filled McCain supporters.

    Geez dude, let go of your anger towards half the world.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 12:48 PM
    spitvenom

    Someone yelling out "Kill him" or "off with his head" are not along the same lines with "we need smart not pretty" or I vote with my brain not my V****.

    I have been to a few Obama rallies now going back to the primaries (matter of fact I was part of the 60,000 in Philly last weekend) and I have Never heard a single person yell out kill Palin or Off with McCain's head or anything remotely near that type of hate. And to be honest I was waiting for it since it is Philadelphia were are FAR from the nicest people in the world.

    There was even a guy Holding a McCain Palin sign and the only thing anyone said to him was Vote Obama.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 01:09 PM
    spitvenom

    Now this is real hate.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 01:29 PM
    Merris
    Spitvenom, I'm with you. I went to an Obama rally of about 20,000 in the south and there were two dudes holding McCain signs and everyone sort of pretended they were... invisible. It was great.

    I think that the greater point, though, is that history has had its share of lynch mobs and witch hunts. We have seen what happens when a largely uneducated mob gets together under the assumption that they are being "had" especially if it's by a person who looks different or whose name is different. Sarah Palin's rhetoric and false accusations are going to end up getting someone killed. All of you (Tom-- we've talked before :) who are batting for the republicans keep putting up examples of satiric art and people with signs that would normally appear at any political rally and crowds yelling Boo (scary!). What's going on at the Republican gatherings is quite a different animal because there is a growing racist sentiment by folks who think their violence is justified by God and that an act of violence would be seen as an act of patriotism not to mention that a good many of them have their own private arsenal of handguns and shotguns to carry out said violence.

    Honestly, my stomach is feeling a little nervous for Obama's safety. I see him as the only hope for the American people right now. McCain did well to repudiate the woman's statement-- even though he was booed by his own crowd. But Sarah Palin on the other hand is proving just as deplorable as she is ignorant. She is an embarrassment to our country.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 02:06 PM
    speechlesstx
    [QUOTE=NeedKarma;1324786]
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Geez dude, let go of your anger towards half the world.

    Another nice – but futile - attempt at turning the tables on me, NK. I am not the one expressing anger…it’s in the images and references I provided of Obama supporters displaying their bigotry, intolerance and hatred. I’m not the one calling Palin a c**t and frantically spreading unfounded rumors of McCain supporters shouting “kill him!!!!!”
  • Oct 16, 2008, 02:09 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post
    Someone yelling out "Kill him" or "off with his head" are not along the same lines with "we need smart not pretty" or I vote with my brain not my V****.

    Nobody said it was “along the same lines.” But my examples are fact and not fiction…just a minor difference.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 02:12 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    I’m not the one calling Palin a c**t

    As I mentioned earlied your fearless leader McCain calls his wife that and you don't "repudiate" (McCain's new big word) it.
  • Oct 16, 2008, 02:17 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by spitvenom View Post

    Which of us among you do you think would ever approve of that? I don't, it was at the least irresponsible, but reading the account you provided hardly falls under the category of "real hate." She took responsibility and apologized, what else do you want? Should I continue to hammer Jack Murtha for calling the western half of his state racist?

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