Ask Me Help Desk - According to ACORN .

According to ACORN .

... Voter-registration can't be totally fraud-free.

Voter-registration can't be totally fraud-free, group says - Cleveland.com

This astonishing admission comes after the FBI raid in Nevada that Steve linked to in another posting . Tony Romo ,Terrell Owens get to vote twice it seems.

Seems the country is getting wise to this voter registration fraud organization that the House Dems tried to enrich with 20% of the bail out profits.

Connecticut is opening criminal investigations against the organization.
ACORN's voter registrations questioned - The Connecticut Post Online

Missouri officials are now investigating new voter registation applications due to suspicions of fakes being submitted .
Missouri officials suspect fake voter registration - Yahoo! News

Ditto Indiana :
Fraud, discrimination claims roil huge voter registration / nwi.com

In fact ;according to the NY Post ACORN has been implicated in voter-fraud schemes in 15 states. I'm sure more are on the way now that people are wise to their scheme.

VOTE-FRAUD-A-GO-GO - New York Post

As the Post points out ;Obama brags about how he cut his teeth as a lawyer representing ACORN and that he was a director of their "Project Vote". My guess is they are lined up for a set of tire tracks right after Ayers gets his set.

Rumor is that Patrick Fitzgerald is possibly conducting a RICO investigation of the ACORN operation.

Voter Caging.

The absentee ballot thing is as much of a reach as Babram's shocker that Al Franken's buddy, G. Gordon Liddy, the guy that served his time before being pardoned by Carter, is a friend of McCain's.

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Some McCain fliers give wrong ballot mailing info

MADISON, Wis. - The Wisconsin board that oversees elections is fielding complaints that Republican presidential nominee John McCain's campaign is sending out a mailing that includes an application for an absentee ballot — but in some cases the address is wrong.

Democrat Beverly Jambois of Middleton got one of the fliers addressed to her husband Robert, a lawyer for the state Transportation Department. They're registered to vote in Middleton, but the absentee ballot application was addressed to the Madison city clerk's office.

"They're trying to knock me off the rolls," she said. "I can't tell you how upsetting it is to me. This is how you win elections? By disenfranchising other voters?"

Kyle Richmond, a spokesman for the Government Accountability Board, said there have been 10 complaints in the past two days from those who got the McCain flier. The board's staff is investigating, he said.

Absentee ballots may only be used in the locality where the person is registered to vote, he said.

Mark Jefferson, executive director of the state Republican Party, denied there was any intent to prevent people from voting. The wrong absentee ballot applications were the result of incorrect information in databases used for the mailing, he said.

"You do the best with the lists you have, and no list is perfect," Jefferson said. "There is certainly no type of suppression effort going on."

He said the mailing was directed to hundreds of thousands of voters.

Local clerks now are processing absentee voting applications. The absentee ballots aren't sent until about four weeks before the election.

Wrong info in your database is entirely different from purposely signing up pro football teams, nonexistent people and duplicates. ACORN is making a habit out of this criminal fraud and why, I thought the Messiah wouldn't need the help of voter fraud.

And why should the dead not have their vote, TN is known to have a great dead turn out each election.

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.....Voter-registration can't be totally fraud-free.

In Nevada both major parties go at each other over voting fraud, including irregularities and registration. This is an article from the past election, but you can get an idea of what kind of tit for tat carries on here in Clark County (Las Vegas). If one side wasn't blaming the other over something in the voting process, it wouldn't be normal.

Las Vegas Now | Investigation into Trashed Voter Registrations

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

The absentee ballot thing is as much of a reach as Babram's shocker that Al Franken's buddy, G. Gordon Liddy, the guy that served his time before being pardoned by Carter, is a friend of McCain's.

Boy, are you going to be shocked to find that Al Franken's not on the presidential ballot.

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I thought the Messiah wouldn't need the help of voter fraud.

Why are you capitalizing the first letter in the word "messiah" when referring to Barack Obama?? If your going to ridicule someone, don't contradict yourself by showing that person higher respect. This makes you appear confused, mentally disorientated, even if you're actually somewhat of sound mind.

http://f528.mail.yahoo.com/ya/downlo...Inbox&inline=1

The ACORN is so rotten that even the far left media are having to report on the voter fraud. According to what I just heard, ACORN employees were ordered to register voters from the telephone book and death records!
Once again, the past comes back to bite Obama. If the economy weren't in such a turmoil, Obama wouldn't have the chance of a snowball in Hades.

YouTube - Obama, uh, an acorn doesnt fall far from the tree

:D even Obam realizes mid sentence that he better not say ACORN :D

As I said in another post, Obama dodges responsibility for everything. Now his campaign has "scrubbed" it's fight the smears page after insisting that Obama "was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity."

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Oops!... Obama Camp Caught Scrubbing Its "Fight the Smears" Webpage on ACORN

The Obama Campaign privately updated its "Fight the Smears" webpage this week after it was discovered that they had not been telling the truth about Barack Obama's extensive ties to the radical ACORN organization.

Here is a screen grab from the Obama website on Thursday:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_L6pDyjqqsv...orn+smears.JPG

The Obama Campaign claimed that Barack was never an ACORN trainer and that he was not associated with ACORN in 1992:

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992

But, after the Cleveland Leader discovered archived documents that proved that Obama did indeed work as a trainer for ACORN and work with ACORN in 1992, the Obama Camp scrubbed the webpage with new "facts":

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_L6pDyjqqsv...ars+take+2.JPG

The Obama Campaign now claims that Barack trained for ACORN trainer but was never hired by ACORN(?). They still have the misleading statement that ACORN was not part of Obama's voter registration efforts in 1992:

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992.

Got that?
Obama believed in the organization so much that he trained them for free.
At least they now admit he did work there.

Once again, here is the photo of Obama guiding the ACORN activists in 2004.
The Obama Camp was hoping this photo was buried forever in the internet archives:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/webl...amaACORN02.jpg
Photo caption: “ACORN members meet with Illinois Senate candidate Barack Obama. Photo courtesy Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.”

Hello:

You Republicans are just laying the groundwork so that when Obama wins you can claim voter fraud...

excon

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Hello:

You Republicans are just laying the groundwork so that when Obama wins you can claim voter fraud...

excon

Not at all, ex. I don't want a president who hangs out for 20 years with his racist, radical mentor and can't recall him ever saying a bad thing, that works closely with an unrepentant terrorist and call him just a guy in the neighborhood, trains members of ACORN and denies any relationship, says one thing on the campaign trail while sending his people out to tell others he doesn't really mean it, says what he really thinks in one place and pretends it never happened and calls his grandmother a "typical white person." The guy is all smoke and mirrors.

Hello Steve:

Well, now you know how I felt about the dufus for the last 8 years. He's WORSE than smoke and mirrors - and getting worser every day.

excon

I think we all already knew how you feel about Bush. I do think it's curious however, that so many would replace what they consider a complete disaster with an empty suit.

Hello Steve:

He's a young wippursnapper. He's got no experience. I don't know enough about him...

However, during these recent dark days, when we've been crying out for leadership and there's been NONE, I've heard ONE calm voice. It's Obamas.

Look, Steve. I know you'll never support him, and that's fine. We'll have a lot to argue about over the next four years. But, he's going to be our president. I think he'll do a damn fine job.

Yes, I feel Kennedyesque about him. Call me a dreamer.

excon

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Hello:

You Republicans are just laying the groundwork so that when Obama wins you can claim voter fraud...

excon

What are you talking about? It wasn't Republicans that registered all those dead people.
It may be the only way he CAN win.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello Steve:

He's a young wippursnapper. He's got no experience. I don't know enough about him...

However, during these recent dark days, when we've been crying out for leadership and there's been NONE, I've heard ONE calm voice. It's Obamas.

Look, Steve. I know you'll never support him, and that's fine. We'll have a lot to argue about over the next four years. But, he's going to be our president. I think he'll do a damn fine job.

Yes, I feel Kennedyesque about him. Call me a dreamer.

Excon

How long did it take for this leader to go to Iraq to visit the troops?

"If I can be helpful..........call me" [ on the banking crisis ]

Voting present how many times?

IBDeditorials.com: Editorials, Political Cartoons, and Polls from Investor's Business Daily -- No Economic JFK

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In entertaining a near-doubling of the capital gains tax, Barack Obama shows that, unlike JFK, to whom he so often is compared, he under-appreciates the key link between investment and prosperity.

To paraphrase Bentsen:

Mr Obama you are NO Jack Kennedy :p :rolleyes: ;)

Over the past few weeks it has been very telling that the McCain campaign has switched gears into the negative 24/7 mode. I recently heard commentary that now about 95% of their ads are negative. Anyway while the DOW plummeted today more than 733 points, the Republicans were dressing up like Alvin and the Chipmunks trying to link Obama to Acorn. I fully expect the scorched earth phase to initiate soon as we come closer to election day.

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Over the past few weeks it has been very telling that the McCain campaign has switched gears into the negative 24/7 mode. I recently heard commentary that now about 95% of their ads are negative. Anyway while the DOW plummeted today more than 733 points, the Republicans were dressing up like Alvin and the Chipmunks trying to link Obama to Acorn. I fully expect the scorched earth phase to initiate soon as we come closer to election day.

LOL, and what mode have you been in?

Mostly I'm just bored by the ignorance displayed by some of my American peers.

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Originally Posted by BABRAM

Mostly I'm just bored by the ignorance displayed by some of my American peers.

Mostly, I'm enraged at the behavior of Obama's peers.

That, and his ability to lie in a heartbeat.

I don't trust him, not at all, and I'm also amazed at the number of Americans who do.

I loved his comment to the New York Times "if I watched Fox News, I wouldn't vote for me"!

Since Fox News is the ONLY media to report the truth about him, that is a very profound statement.

One other question. We do not live in a democracy. We live in a Representative Democracy.

I understand voter fraud is a serious issue, but why make such a big deal out of it if the popular vote doesn't really matter anyway?

Don't get me wrong. I love the opportunity to slam the Dem's and Lib's, and we all know that they are behind this crap, but to make such a big fuss over this seems to be a bit of a waste of effort. Sure, it makes America look bad, but does it really matter in the process of electing our President?

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Mostly, I'm enraged at the behavior of Obama's peers.

That, and his ability to lie in a heartbeat.

I don't trust him, not at all, and I'm also amazed at the number of Americans who do.

I loved his comment to the New York Times "if I watched Fox News, I wouldn't vote for me"!!

Since Fox News is the ONLY media to report the truth about him, that is a very profound statement.

One other question. We do not live in a democracy. We live in a Representative Democracy.

I understand voter fraud is a serious issue, but why make such a big deal out of it if the popular vote doesn't really matter anyway?

Don't get me wrong. I love the opportunity to slam the Dem's and Lib's, and we all know that they are behind this crap, but to make such a big fuss over this seems to be a bit of a waste of effort. Sure, it makes America look bad, but does it really matter in the process of electing our President?

That's a good line about the Fox Network. I may have to borrow that sometime. I wonder if FOX will have another text vote after the debate, similar to the kids American Idol format? Truly desperate, yet funny! And what about McCain's' prejudice supporters speaking out loudly at rallies (about Obama) saying, "kill him," or "he's a terrorist," or that "he's an Arab," does that sit well with you? I don't think it does, because you know better. I think what we are witnessing is the demise of the Pub Party and I expect a shift to the Libertarian Party for those truly conservative with more registered Independents over the next few years. Maybe even a split amongst high profile Pubs to form another party. What ever happened to the party of Reagan? It's gone bye-bye! This new generation of Pubs, thanks to the drug store cowboy "Dubya," and the self proclaimed maverick "McSame," have killed a once proud Republican party.

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That's a good line about the Fox Network. I may have to borrow that sometime. I wonder if FOX will have another text vote after the debate, similar to the kids American Idol format?! Truly desperate, yet funny! And what about McCain's' prejudice supporters speaking out loudly at rallies (about Obama) saying, "kill him," or "he's a terrorist," or that "he's an Arab," does that sit well with you? I don't think it does, because you know better. I think what we are witnessing is the demise of the Pub Party and I expect a shift to the Libertarian Party for those truly conservative with more registered Independents over the next few years. Maybe even a split amongst high profile Pubs to form another party. What ever happened to the party of Reagan?! It's gone bye-bye! This new generation of Pubs, thanks to the drug store cowboy "Dubya," and the self proclaimed maverick "McSame," have killed a once proud Republican party.

I don't agree at all with some of the idiots yelling from the crowd at the rally's.

I also don't agree that anything McCain or Palin has said is the cause of these idiots outbursts.

Statements of fact regarding Obama's ties to such radicals are just that, statements of fact.

He can't be honest, and admit his radical beliefs or ties, and expect to be elected as our President. So he has to dance around, not answer the questions, or if that doesn't work,
He has to lie.

Lying is something he seems to have perfected.

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I don't agree at all with some of the idiots yelling from the crowd at the rally's.

I also don't agree that anything McCain or Palin has said is the cause of these idiots outbursts.

Statements of fact regarding Obama's ties to such radicals are just that, statements of fact.

He can't be honest, and admit his radical beliefs or ties, and expect to be elected as our President. So he has to dance around, not answer the questions, or if that doesn't work,
he has to lie.

Lying is something he seems to have perfected.

The problem from a strategic campaigning view, is that most high ranking officials, both McCain and Obama in this case, have either known, or had associations with radicals and those viewed as extremist by the nominal public. The bottom line, are the candidates themselves guilty, not who they knew or know. If lying can be perfected, Obama can only admire McCain's experience.

It is beyond reasonable thought, to try to compare ANYONE as connected to McCain, as Ayers, Wright, Flager, or Resco are connected to Obama.

Tell me what radical, connected to McCain as closely as they are to Obama, is at or above any of these guys level when it comes to radical beliefs?

Who is McCain connected to that has bombed our own country?
Who is McCain connected to that has uttered anything close to
GD America? I could go on but, I think I've made my point.

Sorry, but, there really is no true comparison to any of these guys on the McCain list of CLOSE associates.

McCain in the debate tonight got his opportunity to confront Obama over Ayers. That silliness backfired. Obama straitened McCain out like green pine going through a new sawmill.

To answer your question G. Gordon Liddy is a close friend of John McCain. He's actually is a lot closer to McCain than Ayers is to Obama. Liddy has gone on record with his admiration of hitler saying he got strength from listening to his speeches. Liddy also said of the Federal Law enforcement to make sure to aim for their heads because they wear flak jackets. And BTW with the stock market dropping 733 points today, Wright's not the only one saying GD America.

The format did not allow for sufficient rebuttal to Obama's distortions of his alliances. McCain should've also mentioned Wright and Tony Rezko and did not hammer Obama hard enough on Ayers and Obama's long term ties with ACORN.

So much for discussing the issues eh? Is that a republican tradition? Slam the person if you can't argue the issues?

Why isn't the person the issue if his alliances are unsavory ?

By the way way

Belated Happy Thanksgiving and congratulations to Stephen Harper .

Thanks. I actually voted Conservative wouldn't you know. :) The Liberals need a proper leader here.

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Is that a republican tradition? Slam the person if you can't argue the issues?

This is something you would ask? The centerpiece of Obama's campaign has been "we can't afford 4 more years of Bush." That isn't slamming the person? At least McCain finally said quite effectively that he wasn't Bush.

Speaking of issues now, what the heck did Obama mean by this?

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I supported that effort to provide better guidance to the courts; John McCain opposed it.

I thought the courts were supposed to be independent and separate, not "guided" by congress.

I also thought it was odd that Obama would tell parents to get their kids away from video games seeing as how he's the first ever to buy ads on ... video games.

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:) The Liberals need a proper leader here.

You can have Obama :>

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This is something you would ask? The centerpiece of Obama's campaign has been "we can't afford 4 more years of Bush." That isn't slamming the person?

He was referring to the policies of George Bush of course. How did you interpret it?

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At least McCain finally said quite effectively that he wasn't Bush.

No I don't think he was effective in dispelling that.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

I thought the courts were supposed to be independent and separate, not "guided" by congress.

You mean kind of like when Bush dismissed those attorneys?

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

... he's the first ever to buy ads on ... video games.

Obama understand technology, that's why the literate technology savvy young people are overwhemingly in support of him.

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You can have Obama :>

Sure! But I suspect he'll be a little busy for at least the next four years.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

He was referring to the policies of George Bush of course. How did you interpret it?

You honestly think the Democrats have been linking McCain to Bush over policy? Nice try, NK, but the facts say otherwise.

Democrats hit Bush to attack McCain

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A two-headed creature is stalking the Democratic convention, getting kicked and pummeled at every turn. “Bush-McCain” is not a political ticket, but a hyphenated target that Democrats have invented from necessity.

It’s much easier, they’ve found, to ridicule an unpopular president who stayed stateside during the Vietnam War than it is to criticize a former prisoner of war seen by many as a likable maverick. By morphing the two, they can smack one and hurt the other.

Clinton Links McCain to Bush

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Former U.S. presidential candidate Hillary Clinton is continuing her party's push to link Republican candidate John McCain with an unpopular President George Bush.

Democrats' advice for Obama: Tie McCain to Bush

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With John McCain gaining in the polls, Democrats have a short checklist for Barack Obama:Tie the Republican to an unpopular President Bush.

MoveOn Links McCain to Bush (Again) in New Ad

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Liberal advocacy group MoveOn.org will begin airing a new ad nationwide and in Arizona starting Tuesday that links expected Republican nominee John McCain to President Bush.

The ad aims for the funny bone, showing goofy images of McCain and Bush set to the lyrics of the “Patty Duke Show.” (Still they’re cousins/ Identical cousins and you’ll find/ They laugh alike, they walk alike/ At times they even talk alike.)

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No I don't think he was effective in dispelling that.

Did I say effective? No, but it was a good first pitch.

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You mean kind of like when Bush dismissed those attorneys?

That was a really poor choice to prove your point: "United States Attorneys are subject to removal at the will of the President. See Parsons v. United States, 167 U.S. 324 (1897)." The law doesn't get any clearer than that, if our Supremes needs congress to explain it then we really are in a world of trouble.

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Obama understand technology, that's why the literate technology savvy young people are overwhemingly in support of him.

And that's why I asked why you would question slamming the person and avoiding the issue being a Republican tactic, you guys have perfected it. Whether it's through open, vile hatred like that I posted yesterday or subtle, condescending insults like this one of yours. And you avoided the issue, Obama wants parents to get their kids away from the video games - but by golly if they don't he wants to be sure and sell himself while they're playing.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

... or subtle, condescending insults like this one of yours.

I made no such thing. Why are so delicate? You seem to get offended by everything.

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That was a really poor choice to prove your point: "United States Attorneys are subject to removal at the will of the President. See Parsons v. United States, 167 U.S. 324 (1897)." The law doesn't get any clearer than that, if our Supremes needs congress to explain it then we really are in a world of trouble.

Hello Steve:

Actually it was a GREAT choice of words. And, YOU'RE correct. The president can fire 'em anytime he wants...

But, he can't LIE about it. THAT is why he's in trouble... THAT is why Gonzo is under investigation.

Kind of like you didn't care much about the blowjob, but you cared about the LYING. No?

excon

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I made no such thing. Why are so delicate? You seem to get offended by everything.

Offended and delicate? LOL, that was tame compared to most insults from you guys, but I do know a dig when I see one. "The literate technology savvy young people", as opposed to the illiterate, gun totin', bible thumpin' old bumpkins that support McCain.

Ex, you'll have to remind me exactly when Bush deliberately lied under oath about the firings. You know, just like Clinton deliberately lied under oath. That law seems fairly clear also, doesn't it?

You best take your meds and put on your tinfoil hat - you are adding meaning when there is none.

When I stipulated that literate technology-savvy young people are overwhemingly supporting Obama that's what I meant. Stop causing trouble where there is none.