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I remember thinking the same thing about Ronald Reagan.

This screed may be over the top, but the top is turning out to be a lot higher than I ever thought it was, and a lot harder to go over. I guess it's inevitable that in a democracy we get the lowest quality of government that the mass of people is willing to tolerate. Figuring out how to get them to tolerate, and even applaud, progressively worse government seems to be the long-term strategy for "a permanent Republican majority".

Hello ordinary:

I loved the screed. He's over the top. But, the Republicans went waaay over the top in picking her. It's surreal.

excon

I think she's OK, I mean, they let Hilary run 4 president.. why not have a female vice president? Beisdes, she seems down to earth an nice... I don't see what the problem is. Ok, maybe that statement was a bit over the top, but whenever a democrat says something bad, republicans never go and say anything...

Maybe they do, this whole political mess is syupid... whf...

OG:

That link was a class act,

Here is a sample

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Not only is Sarah Palin a fraud, she's the tawdriest, most half-assed fraud imaginable, 20 floors below the lowest common denominator, a character too dumb even for daytime TV -and this country is going to eat her up, cheering her every step of the way. All because most Americans no longer have the energy to do anything but lie back and allow ourselves to be jacked off by the calculating thieves who run this grasping consumer paradise we call a nation.

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Now that was mild compared to all the expletives at the end. It seems that the expletives and hatred were a substitue for intelligent, reasoned, opinion.

How can anyone read that and be convinced when the writer's style includes expletives and stereotypes of whole sections of American society? :confused:

Is this representative of the liberal / leftist media? :confused:

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Originally Posted by inthebox

Is this representative of the liberal / leftist media? :confused:

Uh... yeah. It pretty much is.

Elliot

First of all, the Republican Party is falling apart. Ths is a result of the disastrous Presidency of Bush who will go down in history as the worst Presidence in the history of the Republic.

Unregulated, free wheeling Capitalism under an unconcerned Bush with its booms and busts has gone BUST and will bring down America unless the government tries to rescue our economy.

Most Americans see this very clearly. :)

Sarah Palin is just a stooge in McQueeg's plans to try to capture the presidency.

She has disgraced herself on television in interviews... showing her lack of knowledge of foreign affairs and domestic affairs.

The only reason McCain isn't down by 15 points is that his opponent is a black man, and racism is alive and well in America.

To answer your question, it is what she says about MCCAIN. He thinks the electorate is stupid, and he is probably correct!

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Originally Posted by inthebox

Is this representative of the liberal / leftist media? :confused:

The guy writes for The Rolling Stone, so the piece might provide some insight into how the mostly young, and generally non-political urban lefties are interpreting this quadrennial orgy of battling TV ads and campaign extravaganzas that passes for national elections in this country.

But my reason for posting it is to call attention to how she's being packaged and positioned and deployed. And what that says about the calculation that the Rovian Republican strategists have made about what flavor of crap we will be willing to swallow this time.

I'm firmly convinced that over the long-haul, democracy is a demand-side-driven enterprise, which means that if too few of us insist on substance, we will get, and deserve, "leaders" who are no more wise, or honest, or careful than we are when we take the bait, in spite of the hook we know (or ought to know) is hidden inside.

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Originally Posted by inthebox

Is this representative of the liberal / leftist media? :confused:

Hello in:

Yes, it is... The truth does hurt, doesn't it?

There's no question about it, she's the single most unqualified candidate EVER to be presented for national office. I didn't mind the expletives, either. That's the way I talk. But, like good righty's, when you don't like the message, you blame the media.

excon

PS> I'll bet you don't like Jon Stewart either. He tells the truth and uses the "f" word, too.

After wading through that heaping pile of steaming bovine excrement, I feel like my boots will never come clean. The only thing missing in this assinine profanity is the sound effect of a jackass braying.

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Originally Posted by Choux

To answer your question, it is what she says about MCCAIN

What her choice and use says about McCain is that he long ago sold his Honor-and-Duty-Bound-Maverick-Reformer's soul to the Col. Karl Rove Mercenary Panzer Division of Partisan Campaign Warfare. He will do and say whatever they tell him he must do and say, to win this election.

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Originally Posted by Choux

He thinks the electorate is stupid, and he is probably correct!

Yeah, well, the same basic playbook has worked in three of the last four national elections, so you have to admit these guys have some pretty solid evidence to support their conclusion.

They'll keep running the same scam until it doesn't work anymore. I had dared to hope the 2006 midterms would dissuade them from running it again, but I guess they decided they could tweak it and get one more term out of it. I hope to god they're wrong, but I'm not betting the ranch on it.

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This screed may be over the top

Ya think? Clearly, this pathetic individual is in need of therapy.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

Ya think? Clearly, this pathetic individual is in need of therapy.

The Rolling Stone article is much more tame compared to that article you linked to: Cinnamon needs a little drama-queen mood-leveling medication.

Hello Steve:

When somebody criticizes your side, they're called haters. But, I don't hate Sara Palin. I'd LOVE for my son to join a cub scout pack with her as the den mother. I think she's a wonderful person... But, I don't hate her. What I do, is LOVE my country.

I love it sooooo much, that I'd NEVER consider putting someone in charge who doesn't know stuff. I just wouldn't. I'm sorry you would. Do you remember the Miss America girl who answered why most people can't find America (or someplace) on a map? I do. Sara Palin sounded like her when she tried to explain WHY living in Alaska gave her foreign policy experience... She absolutely knows NOTHING... That AIN'T GOOD FOR US!!

excon

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

The Rolling Stone article is much more tame compared to that article you linked to: Cinnamon needs a little drama-queen mood-leveling medication.

Only in your world is this tamer than pointing out the unhinged nature of the author:

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Not only is Sarah Palin a fraud, she's the tawdriest, most half-assed fraud imaginable, 20 floors below the lowest common denominator, a character too dumb even for daytime TV -and this country is going to eat her up, cheering her every step of the way. All because most Americans no longer have the energy to do anything but lie back and allow ourselves to be jacked off by the calculating thieves who run this grasping consumer paradise we call a nation.

Only in your world is this tamer than pointing out the unhinged nature of the author:

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Here's what Sarah Palin represents: being a fat f***ing pig who pins "Country First" buttons on his man titties and chants "U-S-A! U-S-A!" at the top of his lungs while his kids live off credit cards and Saudis buy up all the mortgages in Kansas.

And yet, you have the nerve to criticize and mock our politics. Right on cue again, NK.

Ex, not that I called anyone a hater, but read the two quotes from the article I just posted to NK and tell me these people people aren't worthy of the title.

I can understand your fears, but what I don't understand are these unhinged fears of people that don't know anything about the person they think doesn't know anything.

I do think it was incorrect to call her a fat pig. She is being paraded as a MILF. I stand corrected.

And I'll comment on anything my heart desires - the interweb is a great series of tubes!

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Originally Posted by excon

Do you remember the Miss America girl who answered why most people can't find America (or someplace) on a map? I do. Sara Palin sounded like her when she tried to explain WHY living in Alaska gave her foreign policy experience.... She absolutely knows NOTHING...... That AIN'T GOOD FOR US!!!

Or this!

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Originally Posted by excon

She absolutely knows NOTHING...... That AIN'T GOOD FOR US!!!

excon

Hello Need:

I hadn't seen that part of the interview. Now that I have, I too, stand corrected. She knows even LESS than I said.

excon

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

I do think it was incorrect to call her a fat pig. She is being paraded as a MILF. I stand corrected.

She isn't being paraded as such, and you're repeating such a disgusting, demeaning insult is pathetic. So go ahead, NK, I encourage you to comment all you want. The real Needkarma is showing more and more...

Thanks mate! :)

toledoblade.com -- Palin's campaign buttons revitalize interest in election

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What American men really want to know is which campaign button the presidential candidates like better, "Sarah-liscious!" or "Sarah Barracuda!" This isn't something from a Saturday Night Live comedy sketch. These were actual buttons sold outside a Grand Rapid, Mich., event attended by Mrs. Palin and Mr. McCain earlier this month. "Sarah-liscious!" is a little more vice presidential, if misspelled. Resting her hand on her chin with a self-assured smile makes her look like she's facing off against Vladimir Putin or Hugo Chavez and is fully in control of the situation. At the same time, she's wearing her hair down, which is hot, demonstrating that she can be competent and sexy at the same time, like the caption suggests: Sarah-(de)liscious! This button is for women, but men could wear it too. I think "Sarah-liscious!" would appeal more to Mr. Obama, although he's probably a tad jealous that he's no longer the prettiest, the youngest, or the least experienced candidate.

Or...
Sara Palin hottest VP buttons straight from the RNC
As sold at the RNC convention:
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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Thanks mate! :)

LOL, once you again you mistake us for idiots. What some unknown vendor (not exactly "straight from the RNC") sold outside a McCain-Palin event is hardly proof she's "being paraded as a MILF" as you so elegantly put it. I think even you're smart enough to realize McCain wouldn't be promoting such juvenile trinkets at a time she needs to be taken seriously.

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McCain Store

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

LOL, once you again you mistake us for idiots.

No, I didn't mistake you for idiots.

Hello again:

As I sit here considering the interview NeedKarma just posted, my mouth just won't close... If this isn't Alice Through The Looking Glass, I don't know what is. Please, tom, Elliot, Speech, one of you who support her. Tell me what she said.

Can you, with a straight face, tell me she's prepared to run THIS COUNTRY?? We're not talking about the PTA here, this is OUR COUNTRY, and YOUR CHILDREN'S COUNTRY. Having her finger on the button is the most frightening thought I've EVER had.

excon

PS> If you're going to give me the standard right wing crap to criticize Obama, I'm not interested.

Of course, Ex. You can criticize our people all you want, but we shouldn't criticize yours.
What are you smokin'?

Hello Gal:

It's like I told the Wolverine... Because the Dems nominated somebody inexperienced, the Republicans should too?? Ok, if I jumped off a bridge, you would too?? Please explain it to me.

excon

That is very clever but it is not the complete answer ;nor does the clip show the question being asked. They were previously discussing healthcare and the economy, and Couric posed a mixed bailout and healthcare question. Now the question and answer is being portrayed as a bailout only discussion and a Palin screwup.Not only that ;but the section used in the SNL parody clips from the middle of her response and leaves out the beginning and end making it sound worse than it is.

Here is the exact exchange :

COURIC: Why isn't it better, Governor Palin, to spend $700 billion helping middle-class families who are struggling with health care, housing, gas and groceries? Allow them to spend more, and put more money into the economy, instead of helping these big financial institutions that played a role in creating this mess?

PALIN: That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, we're ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out.

But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Um, helping, oh, it's got to be about job creation, too. Shoring up our economy, and putting it back on the right track.

So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions, and tax relief for Americans, and trade — we have got to see trade as opportunity, not as, uh, competitive, um, scary thing, but one in five jobs created in the trade sector today.We've got to look at that as more opportunity. All of those things under the umbrella of job creation.

No it was not the best answer she could've given .Clearly she is not as experienced at doing the Ivy League 2 step slide and saying nothing ,as Obama demonstrated in the O'Reiley interview. She appears to be putting a bunch of talking points together that she was coached to say. That is more a McCain campaign error. She should be unleashed to say what she believes .It has harmed her image clearly and if she is not given free reign during the debate she will lose it.

It was Couric who made the ridiculous irrelevant linkage between the bailout and national health care .

She is correct about what the average American thinks of the bailout. It would've passed today if Congress could've gotten the cover of public support.

Hello again, tom:

I agree. She can't be as dumb as she sounds. Bill Krystol says McCain hired Bush aids to handle Palin. It looks like it. She should either sink or swim on her own.

All of the above reflects badly on McCain. He's making lots of mistakes. The failed bailout he suspended his campaign to fix, ain't fixed. At least Obama didn't say HE fixed it. But, I digress. Suffice to say, McCain is in BIG trouble. All he had to do was stay OUT of trouble and wait for Obama to make a mistake. Well, his impetuousness (maverickness?? ) failed him this time.

excon

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No it was not the best answer she could've given .Clearly she is not as experienced at doing the Ivy League 2 step slide and saying nothing ,as Obama demonstrated in the O'Reiley interview. She appears to be putting a bunch of talking points together that she was coached to say. That is more a McCain campaign error. She should be unleashed to say what she believes .It has harmed her image clearly and if she is not given free reign during the debate she will lose it.

What's the saying again? Better off keeping your mouth shut and let people think you're an idiot, than open your mouth and confirm it!

That was one of these moments.

She ain't up to it. Not even close. Surely not even you guys can claim she is.

I have seen her stump speeches and tapes of her Alaska debates. I think she will do fine if ;as Excon correctly points out ;those spin meisters don't load her head with bullet points .

Remember ; her pick as is often the case with a VEEP selection was for political considerations. I spoke in other postings that she is there to secure the base while McCain appeals to the middle. That means that most likely she has a view closer to mine on the bailout plan. In other words ,my guess is she disagrees with McCain's . Instead of glossing that over ,I think it would be better if she showed her differences ;just like she has done when discussing ANWR drilling .

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Remember ; her pick as is often the case with a VEEP selection was for political considerations. I spoke in other postings that she is there to secure the base while McCain appeals to the middle.

Yes, and that's exactly the point. It has nothing to do with whether she has the ability to lead the nation, which she clearly does not. Yes, she can rally "The Base" (which translates into Arabic as "Al Qaeda"). But if the Great Apathetic Middle ever wakes up to the damage that such simple-minded idealogues can do when in power, the strategy will backfire on the Rovians, big time.

You know, come to think of it, the financial market meltdown just might be the dope slap that it takes to rouse them from their stupor! If so, I say praise the Lord, and pass the recession!!

Don't be silly . Just because her pick was a political consideration does not mean she she doesn't have the ability to lead the nation .

Is the base of the Democrat party (those simple-minded idealogues ) also 'al qaeda '?

She may have committed political suicide: lose the election and lose the confidence of Alaska i.e. no more politics for her.

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don't be silly . just because her pick was a political consideration does not mean she she doesn't have the ability to lead the nation .

Don't be silly. That's not WHY she doesn't have the ability to lead the nation. She doesn't have the ability to lead the nation because she's a simple-minded ideologue.

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Is the base of the Democrat party (those simple-minded idealogues ) also 'al qaeda '?

The term is accurate for all fundamentalist true-believer groups.

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She doesn't have the ability to lead the nation because she's a simple-minded ideologue.

That's what they said of Lincoln . In fact ;I wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard the charge that Republicans are stupid.

By the way Excon

I'd like to submit this whole thred as an exhibit for the "Disconnect " thred

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that's what they said of Lincoln . In fact ;I wish I had a dollar for everytime I've heard the charge that Republicans are stupid.

I didn't say Republicans are stupid, I said that Palin is a simple-minded ideologue, and the fact that the Rovian strategists chose her, knowing full-well that's what she is, means that they think WE'RE stupid. And even though the several prior successes of their strategy do tend to support that conclusion, I'm hopeful that Lincoln's dictum about not being able to fool all of the people all of the time is about to kick in.

Simple minded compared to what ;the candidate who can't give a straight answer about what a 'withdrawal 'means ?

To Couric she attempted to give an answer about a very complex issue; the bail out . You will note that for 45 minutes Friday both Presidential candidates tap danced and gave non-answers to Jim Lehrer about the complexities of the bail-out package. Like I said ;the only thing she needs better training in is how to speak Washintonese to satisfy the swamp dwellers. But she's be better off using her Alaska real straight talk in the debate Thursday.

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Like I said ;the only thing she needs better training in is how to speak Washintonese

So the only leadership qualification she lacks is the ability to obfuscate, deny, and lie more convincingly? Not to worry, the McCain campaign is being run by people with demonstrated expertise in those areas, so I'm sure she'll have the best teachers around.

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Originally Posted by ordinaryguy

So the only leadership qualification she lacks is the ability to obfuscate, deny, and lie more convincingly? Not to worry, the McCain campaign is being run by people with demonstrated expertise in those areas, so I'm sure she'll have the best teachers around.

Hello again:

Correctomundo... Couldn't have said it better. Here's a greenie where we can't give greenies.

excon