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Hello righty's:
Let me ask you this. Would you get on an airplane where the pilot was 72 years old, and you weren't sure that the co-pilot could actually fly the plane? I don't think you would.
After her recent performances, you can't seriously think Sara Palin is qualified to be president. If you do, then I think you drank some Republican koolaid.
excon
McCain may live to 100. He looks really great for a man who has been on the campaign trail and working late in Washington lately. Did you see his 96 yr old mother? She could pass for 70. In fact, I've seen 60 yr olds that looked worse. As far as the vp is concerned, do you really like Biden better than Palin? Why? Or are you hoping he drops out and Hillary comes in?
After what you said about Obama in the debate, I'm surprised at you. I would like to see a face off between Palin and Obama. It ain't going to happen, but what a show that would be!
Hello Gal:
I, unlike other people around here, DON'T spout a party line. I call 'em as I see 'em. Too bad you don't.
excon
I'll join in this discussion, as long as every one can agree to not start throwing around agrees/disagrees. This is, after all, an opinion question.
I'll come right out and say that I'm going to be voting for McCain. Now before others start hurling the "right-wing, closed-minded, Bible-thumping" accusations, I would like to say this: I don't like McCain; that's not why he's getting my vote. I think Obama is a brilliant speaker and I think he's got fantastic ideas for this country. However, I have yet to hear him explain how.
You see, I hear him state that he's going to provide a universal healthplan. But what is he going to pay for it with? And let's not ignore that people in Britain, who have free healthcare, have to wait about a year to get in to see a dentist.
I also don't appreciate the hypocrisy over not saluting the flag(yes, that happened) or wearing a flag pin because it "might be insulting to other nations." Quite frankly, I don't give a damn what other nations think of me. This isn't their country and if they don't like it, then they don't need to move here.
I am very disturbed that the man Obama himself referred to as his "mentor" actually asked God to damn America - from his pulpit in his church - and referred to this country as the "U.S. of KKK-A" and also said that the government invented the AIDS virus to wipe out the African-Americans. Am I missing something here... we're going to elect someone whose mentor is a paranoid racist? And then Obama said it shouldn't matter "whether he agrees or disagrees with Rev. Wright's statements"... how can anyone buy into that? When someone is your reverend for 20 years, you obviously have taken a liking to them.
And as for the whole "McCain doesn't support equal pay for women; he says they need more education and training" deal, that's an outright lie. I spent the time looking into where this story grew from; McCain sat out on a vote for an act that would allow more women to file lawsuits against their employers based on pay discrimination. Did he make a remark about education and training? Yes. Because he was referring to women who are coming out of raising a household and don't have the experience. Sorry, but if you come into my workplace without any experience or training and start demanding to earn as much as I do when I've been here for 5 years? Hell no.
So that's my rant for the day. I could go on but I did that yesterday *lol*
No party line, Ex. I just don't agree with any of the Democrat Party's basic ideas. I also don't agree with some of the Republican's. I might like the Constitution Party, but not for president, not this year. I will NOT give Obama a "back door" vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Oh, yeah. About that airplane, I would much rather have a healthy 72 yr old PILOT at the controls, than to have someone younger there who hasn't completed flight training.
Qualified or not, I still say she's a MILFQuote:
Originally Posted by excon
Beats Obama Airlines. Some "Green Jobs" just won't do it.
http://https://www.askmehelpdesk.com...1&d=1222532037
Now is that any way to talk about the next Vice President of the United States? You should keep that to yourself... like I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by this8384
Oh, it's all just fun and games. I'm very happy as a heterosexual female.Quote:
Originally Posted by magprob
What's a MILF?
If her peformance has not been the best recently (and I do not come to that conclusion but am working off the premise of the question) perhaps it is because her role has been to be a defender of McCain .That I believe has needlessly restrained her. Well that and the fact that she responded to the press by standing up to their initial assaults instead of sucking up to them. Now they do things like ask her if she agrees to the "Bush Doctrine " without giving content about which part of the doctrine they want her to discuss.
When she burst on the scene she was herself. I think going into the debate Tuesday she should return to that instead of getting herself into gotcha moments when she could not detail the times McCain was a maverick .
People like the pitbull with the lipstick .That should be on full display Tues.
Yup Ex! The new has worn off McCain's handpicked skirt. Well we saw that coming a mile away. And after that Katie Couric interview even the Pubs are scratching their noggins. :)
Ex,
Sarah Palin is a real scary dudess if you think of her running America.
She is one great looking woman, lots of personality, but she has a high school mentality. *shivers*
Only an unbalanced man would have picked her... it's horrifying.
OK I get it .Biden says one horrendous gaffe after another, draws crowds in the single digits, is rumored to be dumped any day now, is probably the worst national candidate in history, yet Sarah keeps taking the heat.
I will be interested to see people's reaction to her "performance" after the debate. Unlike the Gibson and the cBS' perky one with no ratings ambush ,there will be no heavy editing of the answers .
CBS News Erases Moderate Quotes from Palin Transcript - IRIS Blog
The Mark Levin Show » Gibson Interview
Come-on Galvi... are you also watching only the interesting text and articles when you read sexy magazines or visit such websites?Quote:
Originally Posted by Galveston1
Of course I also had to look this up . After hours of visiting websites about milfs I found in Wikipedia :
MILF : "Mother(s) I('d) like to ("sexual activity starting with F and ending with CK - just fill in the U yourself")
:rolleyes: :p :rolleyes: :) :rolleyes:
Hello tom:Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
You are one of the smartest guys on this site. I WAIT for your anaylsis of the issues of the day. Although we disagree, I respect you immensly...
But, that respect is in danger of going into the dumper. I cannot believe that YOU, a real smart guy, thinks Sara Palin is qualified to be president. What I believe, is that you hate the Dems sooooo much, that you're willing to prevaricate in order to defeat them.
If you want to tell me WHY, I'd be very interested (go answer my other post). Or if you believe what you're saying, I'd be interested in why she's more qualified than Biden.
If you tell me that she's been an executive and he hasn't, I'm going to laugh at you. If you tell me it's because she lives close to Russia, I'm STILL going to laugh at you.
excon
Let me ask you this question, excon.
Would you board a plane where the pilot was taking his first solo flight and his co-pilot has a history of making significant mistakes when at the wheel?
We're talking about the single most inexperienced man ever to run for president and he's being backed up by the biggest gaff-machine in Congress.
I'll take the highly experienced pilot and the able-if-still-learning co-pilot any day of the week. At least she's piloted a Cesna and brought it to a safe landing. The rookie on the other side has no flight experience at all.
Elliot
Joe Biden is famous for his gaffes, and that is part of what endears him to the American people! We love his chatty nature and straightforward manner and his gaffes. What a great Irishman!
Sarah Palin doesn't make gaffes... she is just plain stupid about foreign and domestic issues, as she has proven by her own mouth.
Biden is a great, honest, experienced guy who is not a constant liar like BUSH and Captain McQueeg.
Hello El:Quote:
Originally Posted by ETWolverine
Because the Dems nominate an inexperienced person, the Republicans should too?? What's this?? Let's see who can screw the country worse?? Apparently, you think so. Kind of like cutting off your nose to spite your face, no??
In the first place, you should know that I don't carry water for anyone. I'm NOT a supporter of Obama because he's deeeeep in experience. I support him because I support McCain LESS.
excon
PS> I guess you never learned the lesson your mother tried to teach you. Would you jump off a bridge if I did it too??
Ex I stand by may assessment of Palin . Sorry you disagree or think I have lost objectivity in this issue.
The VP selection is historically a political consideration.(at least since the Constitution was amended from the time when the person who came in 2nd in the vote was VEEP). Rarely if ever is the primary consideration "can the candidate run the country ? ". In fact until recently ,throughout history ,VPs have described the position kindly as "not worth a warm bucket of p*ss ".
Perhaps the issue here is age discrimination .Everyone seems to be putting extra weight on McCain's age . I however do not expect him to die in the first days of his term .I expect he has what it takes to complete his term.If by some misfortune in the course of his term he does expire,Palin will have had plenty of time to familiarize herself with the needs of the position.
Governors make decisions. They are chief executives. They veto stuff. They never vote "present."So do mayors .
I find it ironic that the last 4 of the last 6 presidents have been governors with no foreign policy experience before they entered the oval office.Bill Clinton had been governor of an "small insignificant state", and nobody said he lacked qualifications to be President. The current Presidential candidate on the Democrat side was essentially sitting in a State Senate position. ( discounting of course the time he had a cup of coffee in the US Senate).But their qualifications were not questioned .
She has been a true reformer in her Governor term. Nationally she is recognized as the governor with the best reputation for fighting pork, the governor with the best reputation in the nation for taking on the corrupt heavyweights in her own party, and one of the nation's most popular governors.Overall ;her total public career as an executive has been 16 years. The total combined executive experience of the Democrat team has been running their own campaigns(except for Obama's brief tenure as head of the Annenberg Project... assement of that performance is inconclusive because the records have been scrubbed )
As for foreign policy experience ;Alaska share borders with Canada and Putin's Russia .Despite the dismissives I've heard ,that is not insignificant . Clearly she already has as much ;if not more ,foreign policy experience as previous Governors who have become President like Carter ,Clintoon ,and GW Bush.
Alaska is the first line of defense in our missile interceptor defense system. The 49th Missile Defense Battalion of the Alaska National Guard is the unit that protects the entire nation from ballistic missile attacks. It's on permanent active duty, unlike other Guard units.
http://www.airdefenseartillery.com/o...perational.pdf
Alaska Army National Guard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
As governor of Alaska, Palin is briefed on highly classified military issues, homeland security, and counterterrorism. She's also the commander in chief of the Alaska State Defense Force (ASDF), a federally recognized militia incorporated into Homeland Security's counterterrorism plans.
Palin is privy to military and intelligence secrets that are vital to the entire country's defense. Given Alaska's proximity to Russia, she may have security clearances we don't even know about.
I will match her judgement on the issues with Biden (who's bloviating reminds me of Foghorn Leghorn).Even though his legislative career is full of so called foreign policy ;I question the judgement of someone who seriously contemplated and studied Iraq and in the end promoted a Lawrence of Arabia-like subdivision of Iraq..
So I come to the conclusion that your assessment of her is not based on the fact that she is a Governor ;but because you did not like her performances in 2 interviews by a biased media (as I demonstrated with the editted links in my first response ) .
In fairness you should watch how she does in the debate Thurs. and the rest of the time before the election to determine if you are correct.
You are misunderstanding me, Excon. I'm not saying that because Obama is inexperienced, it was OK to nominate Palin who is also inexperienced.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
I'm saying that Obama is inexperienced, and Palin, who is young and still has more to learn, is still more experienced than he is. And she's only co-piloting for McCain, who is a highly trained, accomplished and tested pilot.
And I'm not a McCain supporter because I like Palin. I happen to like Palin, but I'm a McCain supporter because Obama is scary on the issues. He's terrible for national security, terrible for US/Israel relations, terrible for taxes, terrible for border security, and terrible for Supreme Court judicial nominations. And so I support McCain because he's less terrible than Obama.
Elliot
I don't know, ex, I've flown on an airplane with a 65 year old pilot with me as the "co-pilot" before, why should I fear an experienced, energetic 72 year old with a successful young co-pilot running the White House over an inexperienced, self-absorbed, ultra liberal, smoke and mirrors pilot with an old co-pilot suffering from foot-in-mouth disease that takes the train?
The Constitution sets out the qualifications for the President in Article 2, Section 1:
35 years old or older
Must be a native-born U.S. citizen
Must have lived in the United States for fourteen years
Was Obama born in the U.S. Do we know that for certain?
I believe Obama was born here, but grew up in Africa and then moved back to the US.
He has produced what appears to be a valid birth cert .
There are plenty reasons to vote against Obama. Unless someone can provide solid evidence that his birth cert is a forgery then I have to assume it is real .
And as for that spineless jellyfish Joe Biden... never mind, I'm trying to be nice... as dificult as it is.
This is the best Dem in Washington.
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