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Doesn't look like the US so who knows what will happen... Cops are getting out of hand these days
It's from Denver, yesterday.
Wow they don't enforce a dress code there then. Around here cops uniforms must fit snuggly and be pressed and look well done.
Did he hit her with his baton and push her? I didn't see that she provoked that kind of force. Interesting that when the news was interviewing her, they hauled her away. What kind of protest was this anyway?
It was a peaceful protest at the DNC. I believe the group is called Code Pink but that's not that relevant here.
Should be stripped of his badge! But then again maybe we are only seeing what the creator of this video wants us to see and not the entire deal! He's in riot gear and trained to handle hostle protests. Either way, she wasn't armed and all but 100lbs. Perhaps there's a law in Denver for wearing all that pink.. kidding!
I will have to Google this, I haven't heard anything about this.
Judging from what I could make out in the video, the police officer didn't appear to be under physical attack. Assuming that was all there is to the situation, the officer commanded her to move, and might had taken some verbal abuse in return, but his response to her obstinance was not code. Protocol at that point should be to warn her once more, and then subdued her in handcuffs. Usually in protests, the city issues permits and provides zoned areas. However, if a protest is conducted illegally without permission of the municipal, i.e. blocking normal public accessible areas such as streets, there are some routine arrests and if the police really need to move a crowd a direction using force, they use their shields in line movement steps and tear gas if absolutely necessary.
Bad thing of clips, you don't see what happened prior to cause all of this, and to be honest did not sound so "peaceful" was there things being thrown, were they ordered to go back and refused ( refusal of police order allows force to be used to push them back)
I would say that without seeing the entire thing, not a most likely edited version I will say most likely they were reacting to the need for force by actions of a unruly crowd.
Bad cop - No doughnut
Good point. It's only a short clip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr_Chuck
Just for information purposes and anybody wondering: Code Pink is neither necessarily Democrat or Republican based, but their protest in general is against the war in Iraq, and any possible bombing of future countries, such as Iran. Code Pink is also planning on being at the Republican convention.
One thing we can say: she has the courage of her convictions. I hope she is OK.
I was wondering how someone would justify knocking down an unarmed 100lb woman with a baton.
I wonder why they didn't arrest her until later when she was speaking to the media? Plus they grabbed her quite forcefully didn't they?
Is all this stuff OK in the US?
May I just play the women card here. These women are for peace and compassion. Women for peace, if you will, so what justifies the heavy armor? Or the assult? They are women activists excercising their freedom of speech.
We will need more information; I note that there appears to be a bullhorn next to where the lady is on the ground. I don't think a cop would strike a woman for profanity, but he might if she shouted into his ear; but that is just a thought. This is why we have courts.
She's a white woman so no one will probably care!
*edit* that is enough to do anything about it.
Got to agree with Fr Chuck ; the taunts and other activities prior to “the incident” never seem to make it to the tape.
I can't wait to hear all the Obots complaining about the harsh treatment by law enforcement at their convention.
The Code Pinkos should go home . The Recreate 68 movement(with it's promise of anarchy and riots ) has been a complete dud . Not even one tear gas or taser incident . What a yawner.
I saw a video of some protesters getting in cops on bicycles faces begging to get arrested . The cops did not react despite the provocation.
NK ,You ask if this stuff is OK in the US and I say that I'm sure there will be an investigation ,and a bandaid for any scrapes or wounded ego this protester incured. Perhaps she will retain John Edwards to represent her.
This is apparently what happened:
MichaelMoore.com : 2 demonstrators detained in Denver demonstrationQuote:
An Associated Press photographer at the scene said the officer pushed the woman back with his baton as other officers ordered protesters to stay away from a golf cart being used to ferry police. The woman went back to the police and said, "Do it again."
That's when the officer pushed the woman to the ground and ordered her to back off, calling her a "b****." The exchange can be heard on a video captured by a photographer with the Rocky Mountain News.
I did hear her say "Do it again" on the tape posted here.
Still no doughnut though...
If he was pushing her back, perhaps they were entering into a restricted area. She did say do it again after the push, but it doesn't justify the assult.
And we thought the cops in Beijing were tough: "DENVER--Police in Denver arrested an ABC News producer today as he and a camera crew were attempting to take pictures on a public sidewalk of Democratic Senators and VIP donors leaving a private meeting at the Brown Palace Hotel."
ABC News
ABC News: ABC Reporter Arrested in Denver Taking Pictures of Senators, Big Donors
Does it matter who it is that protests? Does your constitution discriminate against that?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Holy cow!Quote:
Originally Posted by George_1950
Land of the free indeed!
Police brutality happens everyday, in every country, to every race and sex.
What point are you trying to make?
This really is nothing new or unheard of, is it?
Cool, I'm happy you're comfortable with it, some people aren't.
True, its nothing new, the point is that it happens its images like these that remind everyone how inappropriate it really is. Geez... were's your compasion?
My compassion is at home with my wife and our cat, and with the rest of my friends and family.
I didn't say anything about being comfortable with it, actually I'm not comfortable, or uncomfortable, it is just a fact of life that has no impact on me personally.
I say that anyone who gets in the face of a cop, and demands "do it again" gets exactly what they asked for, right or wrong.
I'll bet she thinks twice before she does that again.
Where is the constitution? Clearly, not in Denver.Quote:
Originally Posted by akez
I can't believe the garbage coming out of your mouth, your compassion is at home with your wife and cat... LOL.. These people are fighting for something they believe in. Got what she deserved... maybe, but you condone that type of force? Trust me you wife and cat did not give you freedom of speech.
It took people like these to fight for their beliefs
Let me see if perhaps the news crews were tresspassing in some area that was taped off and they were told to leave and would not do that,
Again I doubt we will ever hear in the news the truth of this
Neither did you!Quote:
Originally Posted by akez
If you dumbmasses would quit putting words in my mouth, the garbage coming out would be reduced by 90%.
Did you see anything I typed that said I condone this behavior? No.
All I'm saying is this kind of crap happens everyday, everywhere, right or wrong, it happens, and it usually happens to those who want to "prove" that they can say or do anything they please, even getting in the face of an armed cop, who's adrenaline is running full force, and demanding that he "DO IT AGAIN".
Sorry, that is not how you protest, peacefully, that is a excellent example of what you do when you want to get knocked on your butt.
It's the sheep mentality like this that is allowing your country to become a police state. Good luck with that!Quote:
Originally Posted by progunr
Let's say it did affect you personally.Quote:
Originally Posted by progunr
Imagine if a cop was trying to tell you to do something you didn't want to do--let's say your wife calls you to say she and the cat are trapped in a burning house, but the police officer says you can't approach within a quarter mile of the house, which is in a burning neighborhood. You get upset and try to talk to him and he shouts at you to get back. You don't, because you want to talk to him. He strikes you, knocking you down, and arrests you, sending you to jail for the night.
Would you feel that's just the way things are and you pretty much deserved it for getting in his face?
Yeah police brutality and authorities do abuse their power. I think it is sad when it is only recognized when it is something of that level while the everyday citizen is told they just have to live with it, ain't nothing you can do about it. Just pay your unfair fine and do your unfair time and go on like nothing happened.
I agree. When a middle class looking white woman gets hit with a baton in front of a camera or an ABC camera man gets busted for standing on the sidewalk we see it for what it is, but when it's someone else, it's just as bad and there are no cameras to witness it, no one to be outraged, and no major corporation to bail the person out or defend them in court.
I am seeing it more and more and it is going to get worse. People insist "They must of done something to deserve it'' Just wait until it is somebody they know... or even THEM... then they will see!
The code pink video:
The cop was wrong for that 39 sec clip.
We don't know what went on prior? Did she spit on him, or throw something? In some jurisdictions that constitutes assault.
The longer video:
If they are informed of where they can protest and it is illegal to protest in the areas that they were in - well that is a consequence you accept. Just like ignoring one way or stop signs.
The edited video shows these protestors standing and getting in the face of the cops - not smart.
If they were truly "peaceful" protestors why did they not just sit down, link arms, sing kumbaya and let the cops carry them away?
NK you are such a hypocrite
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My advice to the cop is choke up and follow through with a slight uppercut .
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