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  • Jul 5, 2008, 10:05 AM
    SkyGem
    Why is the Media pushing for Obama so hard?
    There are serious discussions about how the media has treated/is treating Obama and his candidacy. Why are important things about him, meant to better inform us, not getting out? Why are we being led to believe that he is the only one who should win the presidency? You can do something about this!

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  • Jul 5, 2008, 10:12 AM
    progunr
    I don't even listen to any TV or Radio news unless it is FOX.

    Anything else, unless you are a socialist, is a total waste of time.
  • Jul 5, 2008, 10:41 AM
    SkyGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by progunr
    I don't even listen to any TV or Radio news unless it is FOX.

    Anything else, unless you are a socialist, is a total waste of time.

    People have a right to know about a presidential candidate to become better informed about the issues and to know who to vote for. The media is not informing us about the important issues we need to be apprised about. Why? And speaking about "socialist", for more on the ramifications of this important matter, please visit the "Politics" section and look at the thread "What is the connection between Obama and the Communist Party?" Has FOX brought this out yet? This should be a Big Wake-Up Call for many in this country!

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  • Jul 5, 2008, 10:57 AM
    SkyGem
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  • Jul 5, 2008, 01:22 PM
    Choux
    Media, television and radio, is about ENTERTAINMENT... and the goal is to get GOOD RATINGS.

    Obama is hot, Obama is new; people want to see him and get to know him.

    No one is interested in McCain or Bush; all *BAD NEWS*, *no hope* and *ENDLESS WAR*.

    Obama speaks of CHANGE... ending Bush's Iraqi War and improving America. :D That's hot!
  • Jul 8, 2008, 10:36 AM
    Galveston1
    I personally think that Obama is a puppet. I just don't know whose; Soros, maybe? As for him being the candidate of change, that is what you will have left after he gets all his taxes passed. Just change, no bills!
  • Jul 8, 2008, 10:40 AM
    NeedKarma
    This thread reminds me of how old conservatives are such idiots. Fox News indeed. LOL!
  • Jul 8, 2008, 10:42 AM
    Galveston1
    Perhaps NK can suggest a news outlet that is unbiased. We have a shortage of them here.
  • Jul 8, 2008, 10:45 AM
    NeedKarma
    How about BBC?
  • Jul 8, 2008, 10:53 AM
    startover22
    I think Media is good for one thing and one thing only... bringing new info to us. We get to make what we want of it. I am guilty of this at times, but there are people who wish to leave it at that. Meaning they do not investigate any further and take the medias word for it... That is why there are so many people supporting him, they are taking the medias word for it. At least that is how I see it. I am scared to death to vote for him. I want to believe he can "CHANGE" for the better, I just don't buy it that's all. As all of my right winger friends say, when Obama gets voted in, that will be the day to rejoice, we will all have cake and ice cream, the sky will always be blue, and the weather perfect, we will be able to say what we want and all of us will still get along, we will all have enough money and medical benefits with no worries and it will be a dream world! I know that is all sarcastic, and I apologize for that. I agree that he seems interesting and like everyone else I would love to see more of him to see who he really is. But as it stands for my opinion, I agree with Gal, he is sort of like a puppet.
  • Jul 8, 2008, 10:57 AM
    bEaUtIfUlbRuNeTtE
    IMO, because he is the AntiChrist
  • Jul 8, 2008, 10:58 AM
    startover22
    Ohhh and Sky, I would like to see the headline of that first article instead of "since when does the American media get to force feed us our presidents" I would love to see it read... "since when do us Americans LET the American media force feed us our presidents."
    I have a huge problem when others are blamed for something we have complete control over. You just don't let them force feed you, you smarten up our people to investigate to build their own opinions.
  • Jul 8, 2008, 11:02 AM
    NeedKarma
    Start,

    The corporations own America, not you or your fellow citizens.
  • Jul 8, 2008, 11:15 AM
    startover22
    I believe that. Is it too late to stop, can we fight for our Country to have it return, I believe so. As bad as it sounds, there aren't enough Americans willing to suffer any more... whether it be for one thing or another, we all have gotten very comfy with this America... how sad is that? I squirm every day.
    NK, I know you are a big Obama fan. I have been reading through (some links I have to skip over because of limited time) But just coming here with many opinions, I still can't seem to see him as safe.
  • Jul 8, 2008, 11:31 AM
    NeedKarma
    I know you don't. You'd rather more of the same. Enjoy it.
  • Jul 8, 2008, 01:16 PM
    spitvenom
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    How about BBC?

    The only news source I pay attention to!!
  • Jul 8, 2008, 02:29 PM
    Galveston1
    The news media don't lie by what they tell you (usually!) The way they lie is by NOT telling you all the facts, by telling only what they want you to think about any given subject.
  • Jul 8, 2008, 04:40 PM
    inthebox
    McCain and Obama have contrasting economic plans - Los Angeles Times

    Notice how they come up with MCCain counterpoints but none with Obama?

    How does Obama pay for all the supposed tax relief to the "middle class" while at the same time raising taxes on business? What tax relief do you need when your income is zero, because the company laid you off because of the anti-business policys of Obama?
  • Jul 8, 2008, 05:20 PM
    SkyGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by inthebox
    McCain and Obama have contrasting economic plans - Los Angeles Times

    Notice how they come up with MCCain counterpoints but none with Obama?

    How does Obama pay for all the supposed tax relief to the "middle class" while at the same time raising taxes on business?

    Why with what the rich $$$$ Republicans $$$$ are going to have to pay with their taxes, don't you know!

    What tax relief do you need when your income is zero, because the company laid you off because of the anti-business policys of Obama?

    in the box, it's just another thing that makes you go hmmmmm!

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  • Jul 8, 2008, 05:35 PM
    SkyGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by startover22
    Ohhh and Sky, I would like to see the headline of that first article instead of "since when does the American media get to force feed us our presidents" I would love to see it read...."since when do us Americans LET the American media force feed us our presidents."
    I have a huge problem when others are blamed for something we have complete control over. You just dont let them force feed you, you smarten up our people to investigate to build their own opinions.

    Start, That's exactly what I, for one, have been doing since the media is not scrutinizing the top candidates as they should. There are some here who have even resorted to cursing, can you believe, when articles on Obama come up but that only makes me strongly believe we are on the right path, otherwise there would not be so much dissent if there was nothing to those articles. And of course, Obama's spinmeisters just hate it when confronted with the articles people need to take a serious look at! And I haven't even yet begun, so, please stay tuned for further mysteries!

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  • Jul 8, 2008, 08:19 PM
    excon
    Hello Sky:

    I don't know why the media loves him. Maybe because he's better than the old guy. And, of course, your broad is washed up.

    Can you say President Obama?

    excon
  • Jul 9, 2008, 04:57 AM
    SkyGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon
    Hello Sky:

    I dunno why the media loves him. Maybe because he's better than the old guy. And, of course, your broad is washed up.

    Can you say President Obama?

    excon

    I don't know, excon. It seems that the media's love affair with Obama may be coming to a quick close as they wake up to smell the coffee.

    Can you say "Finally Fairness"?

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  • Jul 9, 2008, 05:12 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SkyGem
    I dunno, excon. It seems that the media's love affair with Obama may be coming to a quick close as they wake up to smell the coffee.

    On the one hand you say he's the media darling then you say the media is leaving him. Which is it?

    One of the reasons that the media likes him is that McCain stumbles and chokes on many of his public appearances.
  • Jul 9, 2008, 05:14 AM
    SkyGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SkyGem
    Can you say "Finally Fairness"?

    Alright, I won't keep you in suspense any longer.

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  • Jul 9, 2008, 05:18 AM
    NeedKarma
    A conservative blogger writes that the 'thrill is gone'? Ok. He's allowed his opinions.
  • Jul 9, 2008, 09:58 AM
    N0help4u
    McCain stumbles and chokes
    I have seen a lot of that from Obama
  • Jul 9, 2008, 10:08 AM
    progunr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u
    McCain stumbles and chokes
    I have seen a lot of that from Obama

    Neither one of these guys is going to be remembered in history for being sharp as a tack.

    They both have problems in engaging the vocal chords, prior to engaging that gray matter between their ears.

    I have to say, the younger one seems to have more problems than the older one.

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  • Jul 9, 2008, 10:09 AM
    NeedKarma
    Yet the people like him. I've learned long ago that this board is absolutely not representative of the general public.
  • Jul 9, 2008, 10:12 AM
    progunr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Yet the people like him. I've learned long ago that this board is absolutely not representative of the general public.

    I think I am in the "general public', what part of the "public" do you think you are in?

    If not the general public, who then?
  • Jul 9, 2008, 10:20 AM
    NeedKarma
    Sorry I confused you. This site is a bashing site and an Obama bashing site at that. You try to make people think that he is not liked as a candidate, but a much larger percentage of people outside this site believe that he is the candidate of choice.

    Here's another site with a different set of comments. I guess they are the same public as you:
    Digg - McCain's YouTube Problem Just Became a Nightmare
  • Jul 9, 2008, 10:35 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    One of the reasons that the media likes him is that McCain stumbles and chokes on many of his public appearances.
    Perhaps but they tolerated that all right when he was the go-to maverick Republican for the Washington Compost and the Sunday morning talk shows . Back then he was the voice of reason because of how often he stood in opposition to his own party and the Bush Adm.
  • Jul 9, 2008, 10:39 AM
    NeedKarma
    The 'maverick' part is gone, now he's towing the neo-con line.
  • Jul 9, 2008, 10:40 AM
    tomder55
    But his position on the foreign policy has been consistent . It is who the press is promoting that has changed. The NY Slimes endorsed him in the NY primaries and since then has not a kind word to say.
  • Jul 9, 2008, 10:42 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Sorry I confused you. This site is a bashing site and an Obama bashing site at that.

    Oh puhleeeeeze, NK, there's enough bashing to go around on both sides here and it's much less civil coming from the left, throwing bombs then playing the victim instead of engaging in discussion.

    Quote:

    You try to make people think that he is not liked as a candidate, but a much larger percentage of people outside this site believe that he is the candidate of choice

    Here's another site with a different set of comments. I guess they are the same public as you:
    Digg - McCain's YouTube Problem Just Became a Nightmare .
    And this proves what, exactly?
  • Jul 9, 2008, 10:46 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    Oh puhleeeeeze, NK, there's enough bashing to go around on both sides here and it's much less civil coming from the left, throwing bombs then playing the victim instead of engaging in discussion.

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  • Jul 9, 2008, 10:56 AM
    progunr
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma
    Sorry I confused you. This site is a bashing site and an Obama bashing site at that. You try to make people think that he is not liked as a candidate, but a much larger percentage of people outside this site believe that he is the candidate of choice.

    Here's another site with a different set of comments. I guess they are the same public as you:
    Digg - McCain's YouTube Problem Just Became a Nightmare

    Do you even read the posts before you attack?

    [QUOTE=NeedKarma]"You try to make people think that he is not liked as a candidate"[QUOTE]

    Didn't my post state that is is easy to see why people "like" him?

    It would appear that when all that is done, is to bring to light things he has said and people that he has chosen to be closely associated with, are considered a "smear".

    In those instances, he must be "slamming" himself?
  • Jul 9, 2008, 11:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma

    And this proves what?
  • Jul 9, 2008, 11:34 AM
    NeedKarma
    Speech,
    Read the thread. I'm busy today.
  • Jul 9, 2008, 11:44 AM
    speechlesstx
    NK, since it is you making the claim the burden falls on you to support it... one contributor doesn't make it an Obama bashing site.
  • Jul 9, 2008, 04:11 PM
    SkyGem
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx
    NK, since it is you making the claim the burden falls on you to support it ... one contributor doesn't make it an Obama bashing site.

    Speech, absolutely the burden falls on her (him?)! But you see, whenever a link is submitted about a story on Obama, if this individual, NK, does not like it and it is not 100% PRO-OBAMA, you will find her saying that it is a bashing site. If you have not yet read the cursing and/or profanity used by this individual whenever I highlight a story about Obama that she does not like, suddenly the most foul language ensues. Stay tuned for it. So, knowing that, you now know at what "intellectual" level she is playing on.

    And just watch as I/we post more Obama stories that are not carried by the mainstream newspapers but are presented here from links on the Internet and you will see more attacks on me or others who present them. Go back and see how she absolutely HATES the Obama posts that are not putting him on a pedestal whether they are written by one individual or many. But again, that just goes to prove that we are on the right track and there has got to be something to those stories or there wouldn't be that kind of reaction, and besides, unless this is a restricted forum, *anyone* can post what they like as long as it is civil and does not contain profanity like NK likes to use. I'm surprised the moderator hasn't caught on to that little number of hers or maybe he has?

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