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  • Nov 12, 2007, 04:28 PM
    friend4u178
    Political correctness.
    Sometimes I really wonder about our society and Political correctness gone mad.

    Yesterday in Sydney , Australia one of the major shopping centres were conducting interviews for this years hoard of Santa Claus's. One of the rules for this year is Santa is not allowed to say" Ho Ho Ho" for fear it could be construed as a reference to , well you know. So instead they have to say "Ha Ha Ha"

    How silly!!
  • Nov 12, 2007, 04:32 PM
    N0help4u
    Yeah PC is insanity for sure!

    Here is the LLC PC Christmas card...

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    AND a fiscally-successful, personally-fulfilling, and medically-uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2008, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great, (not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country or is the only "America" in the western hemisphere),and without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith, choice of computer platform, or sexual preference of the wishee.
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  • Nov 12, 2007, 04:33 PM
    friend4u178
    LOL :-) Nice one NOhelp
  • Nov 12, 2007, 04:54 PM
    peggyhill
    I like that one too NOhelp! I think the Santa thing is crazy! It's good to try to be tactful and not offend anyone, but I think sometimes we take the whole political correctness thing WAY too far!
  • Nov 12, 2007, 05:13 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by peggyhill
    I think the Santa thing is crazy! It's good to try to be tactful and not offend anyone, but I think sometimes we take the whole political correctness thing WAY too far!

    Very true Peggy , I wonder if we can come up with some more examples of PC gone wrong!
  • Nov 12, 2007, 07:19 PM
    startover22
    Merry Christmas... Ho Ho Ho!
    That is what it is, so let it be...
    You guys are so right, everything is so mangled now... it breaks my heart, and makes me feel like history was for nohthing! For goodness sakes... why can't we just let it be?
    And now I have to say, sorry if I offended anyone... Really... or I could be kicked in the ribs a few times or something worse...
  • Nov 12, 2007, 07:22 PM
    friend4u178
    It's all right Start you didn' t offend me :-)
  • Nov 12, 2007, 07:25 PM
    startover22
    Thanks... just making sure, cause well, you know what I mean...
    Can really get crazy here. We are about to celebrate Thanksgiving, but I think it may be called some other name like Fake Autumn Festival or Fall Gathering or whatever... Thanksgiving is still on the printed calendars, that is a good sign... LOL
  • Nov 12, 2007, 07:28 PM
    magprob
    PC is sensorship plain and simple. You can't just come out and say that... let's see, what is a good example? OH! I got it! You can't just come out and say, for example, that Hillary Clinton is a lying, no good bull dyke bent on turning this country into a communist society for the poor and a free enterprise system for only the rich and that the only reason her daughter is so damn ugly is because the real father is Janet Reno. See, you can't say that so don't! That's sensorship plain and simple.
  • Nov 12, 2007, 07:29 PM
    friend4u178
    I just can't picture Santa rolling along on his sleigh bellowing out "Ha ha Ha" LOL :-)
  • Nov 12, 2007, 07:30 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by magprob
    PC is sensorship plain and simple. You can't just come out and say that ...let's see, what is a good example? OH! I got it! You can't just come out and say, for example, that Hillary Clinton is a lying, no good bull dyke bent on turning this country into a communist society for the poor and a free enterprise system for only the rich and that the only reason her daughter is so damn ugly is because the real father is Janet Reno. See, you can't say that so don't! That's sensorship plain and simple.

    LOL... no you can't say that :-)
  • Nov 12, 2007, 07:32 PM
    startover22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by magprob
    PC is sensorship plain and simple. You can't just come out and say that ...let's see, what is a good example? OH! I got it! You can't just come out and say, for example, that Hillary Clinton is a lying, no good bull dyke bent on turning this country into a communist society for the poor and a free enterprise system for only the rich and that the only reason her daughter is so damn ugly is because the real father is Janet Reno. See, you can't say that so don't! That's sensorship plain and simple.

    Oh my goodness Mag... Oh goodness... I think you are right with the meaning... yes I think you are... :o


    Friend, I can't see it either... just doesn't do it for me! ;)
  • Nov 12, 2007, 07:38 PM
    magprob
    Censorship. I'm sorry, I got a little excited there.
  • Nov 12, 2007, 07:39 PM
    friend4u178
    You do have a good point though Mag
  • Nov 12, 2007, 07:46 PM
    magprob
    That's why they have PC. Goods points are usually based in truth. We can't be having that now!
  • Nov 12, 2007, 07:59 PM
    friend4u178
    God forbid the truth!!
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:03 PM
    N0help4u
    ... not to mention ha ha ha can be taken offensively as well... it could mean Santa is laughing AT us N0T WITH us or F0R us!!
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:04 PM
    startover22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u
    ...not to mention ha ha ha can be taken offensively as well....it could mean Santa is laughing AT us N0T WITH us or F0R us!!!

    LMAO... so true... I would be offended for sure... LOL
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:05 PM
    friend4u178
    Maybe he could say LOL LOL LOL
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:06 PM
    startover22
    LOL... ya no kidding...
    Times are a changin'
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:07 PM
    N0help4u
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by friend4u178
    Maybe he could say LOL LOL LOL

    BEtter yet

    R0TFLMAO and sh*t on Political correctness!
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:11 PM
    magprob
    It would be all right if he changed it to Hoe Hoe Hoe. Have a few beaches swingin their A$$E$ around the tree. That's OK.
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:11 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u
    BEtter yet

    R0TFLMAO and sh*t on Political correctness!!

    The kids of today would probably love that!! We could have a RAP Santa
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:13 PM
    friend4u178
    PC on garden implements?? This could spread!
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:16 PM
    magprob
    Teacher asked a kid to name the garden implement in the picture.
    He couldn't. Didn't know what it was.
    Teacher tells him it's a Hoe.
    He says, "My sister is a Hoe and she don't look nuthin like that!
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:18 PM
    friend4u178
    Christ Mag I nearly fell out of my chair laughing then , that's hilarious :-)
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:26 PM
    magprob
    Well, I guess we're not going to draw in any of those PC perfect people so now I'm bored again. Oh well, guess I'll point my laser at my neighbors forehead while he watches TV. That usually gets his wife in a tizzy.
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:28 PM
    startover22
    LMAO... you guys, I tell you...
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:31 PM
    friend4u178
    So if this spreads would that mean we would now go HAME after work , or if we water the garden we have to use the Garden HASE??
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:34 PM
    startover22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by friend4u178
    So if this spreads would that mean we would now go HAME after work , or if we water the garden we have to use the Garden HASE ???

    Oh geeze... you make me laugh... ;)
    Ha ha ha... all the way hame...
  • Nov 12, 2007, 08:36 PM
    friend4u178
    This little piggy when wweeeeeeee all the way hame
  • Nov 12, 2007, 09:02 PM
    N0help4u
    Now you have to RESPECT that po' pig!! IT CAN'T HELP IT THAT IT WEE WEE WEE'ed all the way home!! Cruel and heartless you are givin' that pig an inferiority complex... show some support and buy that darn pig some DEPENDS!
  • Nov 12, 2007, 09:26 PM
    startover22
    Oh goodness... oh gosh...
    Yes the piggies deserve some respect...
  • Nov 13, 2007, 03:03 PM
    friend4u178
    You got to love Robin Williams... Even if he's nuts! Leave it to Robin Williams to come up with the perfect plan. What we need now is for our UN Ambassador to stand up and repeat this message.

    Robin Williams' plan... (Hard to argue with this logic!)

    "I see a lot of people yelling for peace but I have not heard of a plan for peace. So, here's one plan."

    1) "The US will apologize to the world for our "interference" in their affairs, past & present. You know, Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Tojo, Noriega, Milosevic, Hussein, and the rest of those "good 'ole' boys", we will never "interfere" again.

    2) We will withdraw our troops from all over the world, starting with Germany , South Korea , the Middle East , and the Philippines . They don't want us there. We would station troops at our borders. No one allowed sneaking through holes in the fence.

    3) All illegal aliens have 90 days to get their affairs together and leave. We'll give them a free trip home. After 90 days the remainder will be gathered up and deported immediately, regardless of who or where they are. They're illegal!!! France will welcome them.

    4) All future visitors will be thoroughly checked and limited to 90 days unless given a special permit!!!! No one from a terrorist nation will be allowed in. If you don't like it there, change it yourself and don't hide here. Asylum would never be available to anyone. We don't need any more cab drivers or 7-11 cashiers.

    5) No foreign "students" over age 21. The older ones are the bombers. If they don't attend classes, they get a "D" and it's back home baby.

    6) The US will make a strong effort to become self-sufficient energy wise. This will include developing nonpolluting sources of energy but will require a temporary drilling of oil in the Alaskan wilderness. The caribou will have to cope for a while.

    7) Offer Saudi Arabia and other oil producing countries $10 a barrel for their oil. If they don't like it, we go someplace else. They can go somewhere else to sell their production. (About a week of the wells filling up the storage sites would be enough.)

    8) If there is a famine or other natural catastrophe in the world, we will not "interfere." They can pray to Allah or whomever, for seeds, rain, cement or whatever they need. Besides, most of what we give them is stolen or given to the army. The people who need it most get very little, if anything.

    9) Ship the UN Headquarters to an isolated island someplace. We don't need the spies and fair weather friends here. Besides, the building would make a good homeless shelter or lockup for illegal aliens.

    10) All Americans must go to charm and beauty school. That way, no one can call us "Ugly Americans" any longer. The Language we speak is ENGLISH..learn it...or LEAVE...Now, isn't that a winner of a plan?

    The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses." She's got a baseball bat and she's yelling, ''you want a piece of me?'"
  • Nov 13, 2007, 04:04 PM
    magprob
    Makes too much sense for politicians that have the entire world in their sights.
  • Nov 14, 2007, 04:18 PM
    friend4u178
    Update from MSN website

    Sydney Santas rebel against ho-ho no-no


    Thursday Nov 15 06:00 AEDT
    By ninemsn staff

    Sydney Santas have reportedly defied a request from a recruitment firm to replace "ho ho ho" with "ha ha ha".


    Should Santas replace their "ho ho ho" with "ha ha ha"?

    Two Santa trainees from Westaff, which supplies hundreds of men in red suits to Australian shopping centres, have quit over the politically correct new greeting, the Daily Telegraph reports.




    Trainees were told the traditional phrase could scare children and be taken as derogatory to women.

    "We ask our Santas to try techniques such as lowering their tone of voice and using 'ha ha ha' to encourage the children to come forward and meet Santa," Westaff's national Santa co-ordinator Sari Hegarty told the paper.

    But Santas at department stores David Jones, Myers and the Westfield shopping centre chain will still use the customary greeting as part of their customers Christmas experience.

    "Senior management (at Westaff) have assured us that Santas provided to David Jones have not been censored in any way," a David Jones spokeswoman told the Telegraph.

    Julie Gale from Kids Free to 2B Kids said Santa should be left alone.

    "We are talking about little kids who do not understand that 'ho ho ho' has any other connotation and nor should they," she told the paper.
  • Nov 14, 2007, 04:39 PM
    N0help4u
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by friend4u178

    "We are talking about little kids who do not understand that 'ho ho ho' has any other connotation and nor should they," she told the paper.


    They'd be shocked to know what many little kids know nowadays.
  • Nov 14, 2007, 04:41 PM
    friend4u178
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u
    They'd be shocked to know what many little kids know nowadays.

    Ha Ha how true... pretty scary ay
  • Nov 14, 2007, 04:47 PM
    startover22
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by N0help4u
    They'd be shocked to know what many little kids know nowadays.

    I agree... :eek:
  • Nov 14, 2007, 08:49 PM
    friend4u178
    UPDATE

    Santa 'ho ho ho' ban bemuses world
    Thursday Nov 15 12:00 AEDT
    By Phil Han and Shaun Davies
    Ninemsn

    People around the world are bewildered that Australian Santas have been told not to say "ho ho ho".

    News of an Aussie recruitment firm replacing "ho ho ho" with "ha ha ha" has travelled fast, with people in New Zealand, the UK and the US amazed at the "extreme" political correctness.


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    Santa Ernest, the president of charitable organisation Santa America, said he was puzzled and surprised that such a move would come from Australia.




    "It's amazing to me that it would come from the wonderful land of Australia," said Santa Ernest, who visits children in hospitals year-round.

    "Whether you say 'ha ha ha' or 'ho ho ho' doesn't really matter, as long as you bring (children) love, hope and joy."

    Trainees from Westaff, which supplies hundreds of men in red suits to Australian shopping centres, were told the traditional phrase could scare children and be taken as derogatory to women.

    "We ask our Santas to try techniques such as lowering their tone of voice and using 'ha ha ha' to encourage the children to come forward and meet Santa," Westaff's national Santa co-ordinator Sari Hegarty told the Daily Telegraph.

    The revelations sparked a storm of blog postings, with many international writers bewildered at the campaign against Santa's "ho".

    "Who else wants to destroy traditions and re-write history? Santa has always said 'ho, ho, ho'," wrote one blogger at New Zealand-based friedbrains.com.

    "How can banning 'ho, ho, ho' possibly better our world — why would anyone even begin to think it would in the first place?"

    Macquarie University linguistics professor Pam Peters said the idea of changing the phrase was ridiculous and inappropriate.

    "How can it be scary for children if it's been there as long as anyone can remember?" Professor Peters said.

    "It's the time-honoured thing that Santa says and if they change it, it's as if he's speaking another dialect."

    Two Santa trainees have quit over the politically correct new greeting, the Daily Telegraph reports.

    Santas at department stores David Jones, Myers and the Westfield shopping centre chain will still use the customary greeting as part of their customers Christmas experience.

    "Senior management (at Westaff) have assured us that Santas provided to David Jones have not been censored in any way," a David Jones spokeswoman told the Telegraph.

    Some ninemsn readers though agreed with Westaff's decision.

    "Finally I can walk the streets without being harassed by morbidly obese men in red," CK from Sydney said.

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