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It's fine to build friendship and trust and to love people. In fact, it's essential and I applaud you for it, but to treat the gospel as nothing more than a "sermon" is a sad reflection on your estimation of the gospel message.Quote:
She doesn't need a sermon. She needs unconditional love.
and the unconditional love she needs is to be introduced to Jesus, just as everyone has the same needQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Not yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Who are you to decide this? I recall a time where I led a Buddist to Jesus, he was open but my pastor was incensed because he was going to meet with him some days hence and claim the scalp. You don't know when a person may pass away, they may not have the time for your build upQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
I love it when you fundies talk like this. Sure doesn't make coming to Jesus very appealing.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
That's ok. No harm done.Quote:
You don't know when a person may pass away, they may not have the time for your build up
It really has nothing to do with Jesus, what it has to do with is love and our willingness to shareQuote:
Originally Posted by Athos
That's the entire reason we witness!Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
It has everything to do with Jesus. If we do not tell people about the one who came to "to give his life as a ransom for many," then we have been as unloving as we can possibly be.Quote:
It really has nothing to do with Jesus
OMG! I agree with you!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
It's a miracle!! We both need to stop posting immediately. We've reached the pinnacle.Quote:
OMG! I agree with you!!!!
No, no, no! This is the beginning!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I missed this earlier. What is a "Swedish death-cleaning"?Quote:
I have been Swedish death-cleaning this afternoon.
Look it up, please.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Oh, all right.
In Swedish, the exercise is döstädning — a combination of the word “dö” (which means death) and “standing” (which means cleaning), author Magnussen explains in her book. “Death cleaning is not about dusting or mopping up; it is about a permanent form of organization that makes your everyday life run more smoothly,” she explains.
A method of downsizing employed by minimalists?
Yes. I'm old. I don't want debris from my 74 years overwhelming my Asperger's husband and Asperger's son, if I die first. All is being explained to them. Neat files have been correctly labeled. Am busy daily with this project.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
How strange that we think alike in more ways than one might have thought. I am getting rid of clutter as well so my wife would not have to deal with it if it turns out that way. We had to clear out my parents' large basement several months ago and it was not fun having to just throw away so much stuff.Quote:
Yes. I'm old. I don't want debris from my 74 years overwhelming my Asperger's husband and Asperger's son, if I die first. All is being explained to them. Neat files have been correctly labeled. Am busy daily with this project.
Wow, I have been dealing with the same issues the last few years, cleaning out a lifetime of stuff after my parents deaths, that was physically and EMOTIONALLY profound and taxing. It ain't at all easy and now doing it for the wife and I, hopefully saving my kids from going through the same thing. That's not easy either. Kind of amazing we're going through the same issues undoubtably related to our ages and sense of responsibility that comes with aging.
Again WG, just your sharing and attitude is truly inspiring and I know JL agrees with me on this. That alone is a sign of hope. Thanks my friend for pulling me forward as you always seem to. You're a strong tough cookie for sure.
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No it ain't no fun since all that stuff has a story and strong memories, but you know it has to go. I feel ya my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
We brought into our house Jeremy's stuff -- writing and art, furniture, clothes, comics collection, books, kitchen things, etc. scattered around in our small living room. Have been dealing with that since May 4, 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
It is very difficult. You want to keep it all but you can't. In the case of the stuff in the basement, so much had molded that there wasn't much to do with it but throw it away, and I mean a LOT of it. I could just imagine my mother standing there with a disapproving look in her eye. We threw away probably two hundred books. WG would have had a fit, but it was all moldy and smelly. Oh well.Quote:
Wow, I have been dealing with the same issues the last few years, cleaning out a lifetime of stuff after my parents deaths, that was physically and EMOTIONALLY profound and taxing. It ain't at all easy and now doing it for the wife and I, hopefully saving my kids from going through the same thing. That's not easy either. Kind of amazing we're going through the same issues undoubtably related to our ages and sense of responsibility that comes with aging.
I'm sorry to have to ask this, but who was Jeremy?Quote:
We brought into our house Jeremy's stuff
Our younger son.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I sent you a PM. Otherwise, tmi on the board
Well, gang, I know you'll think I am just chiming-in....but, I know what you are going through: I, too, am cleaning out my current home of all unnecessary items....particularly the two different attics, the garage, all the bedrooms, and, worst of all, my 32 years of Engineering files! The files are the killer! I have to go through them draw by drawer and folder by folder and page by page: utterly excruciating! I am blind at the end of each bout with doing this...and it is a fight with MYSELF! I don't want to throw any of it but I must....so I have to scan through them and make sure they aren't relevant in some sort of way! There are three 20" X 48" file "lockers" and five four drawer filing cabinets and untold banker boxes of files. My wife and I are downsizing and moving to another state.
Vac, I can imagine it is really tough. I experienced somewhat the same thing when I retired from education.
Well aren't we all just one big happy family now!!
be practical, if you haven't used it in the last couple of years then it might be time to throw it away, buy a shredder and do it in small chunks because you might have an emotional attachmentQuote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
Paraclete: Oh, so you're the guy whose been telling my wife this approach! What you said is exactly what she has been telling me the last 3 months! And, I finally got the shredder and I am doing it in "chunks" as you say. And you are so correct in the part about emotional attachment, too, albeit to a darn bunch of documents! I grab a bunch and end up reading a report from way back when I was 20 something, before the world got so heavy when I truly believed all things were possible, and it just makes it so hard to get rid of it.....but there are no Time Machines, we have to move forward.....Growing up is hell on a man.....I don't think I made it there until I was 40.
Hey man bin there done that, and still more to do, these are chunks of your life, may only mean something to you and I suggest a big bon fireQuote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
Paraclete: Excellent idea....I can feel weight lifting off my shoulders with the volume I've done so far....I'll end up weighing in the negatives by the time I'm through!
Sounds like retirement. Go for it! You earned it after 32 years. How old are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
Come to Mississippi!!
Paraclete & jlisenbe: It will be a while before I retire....too many kids and too many bad investments along the way....and, I think I would drive my wife as insane as I am if we were in constant contact with one another!
I am 54...won't be too long before I turn 55.
Love Mississippi: Been all over that state! Especially around Laurel & Hattiesburg as well as Monticello, Sandy Hook, New Augusta, Meridian, Vicksburg, Natchez, and a lot up around Iuka and Corinth....Great state! Oh, and Grenada! But I live in S.E. S.C. and I am moving to N.E. Florida.
If you aren't retiring then is this a career move, 2nd job type thing?
Talaniman: No, just a move inside the company I work for, changing a position.
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