dalliances ? I guess Bubba is the big exception to the me too movement .
Shameful apologizing if you ask me .
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dalliances ? I guess Bubba is the big exception to the me too movement .
Shameful apologizing if you ask me .
Whatever we call it it's cheating with a chick on the side. MeToo wasn't invented and hardly practiced, but times have certainly changed as women are standing their ground and speaking out. I offer no apologies for men who get caught with there pants down. The differnce between the two presidents was that Clinton actually testified about his trists before a grand jury.
Love to see that happen NOW.
Clinton did it while in office, whatever Trump did has nothing to do with his office. What you want to do is convict a man for protecting his reputationQuote:
Love to see that happen NOW.
Reputation for what?Quote:
What you want to do is convict a man for protecting his reputation
It has everything to do with his office since, while true it was done before he got elected, the cover up, or using your words, protecting his reputation, was done while he sought that office. I mean the guy has been married and divorced a few times and had many cuties on his arm in between. I get maybe the wife didn't know but after the locker room talk tape came out, and the women he allegedly assaulted, what reputation was he protecting? One is suing him in court NOW!Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
He also has a reputation for LYING profusely and insulting everybody. If he wanted to protect his reputation he would own his actions and show contrition. We have seen none of that. So what else is he protecting? You don't know.
Like WG asks...a reputation for WHAT?
I don't know and I don't care. Your electorate made the mistake of electing him, whatever baggage he comes with is what you get but then you love gossip, love to dig the dirt. Maybe he sees nothing wrong in what he has done, he is a man of his societyQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Totally agree! We got what we deserve no doubt. That's why we have elections though and another looms as we speak. Hopefully we can unpack some of the baggage and make an INFORMED choice.
"informed choice", Like that is ever going to happen!
Lets get Hillary back on the Ballot, she's a strait shooter.
If only the Dems wouldn't have got sucked into playing Trumps game.
This reality show has just begun, lets see if anybody can outplay the game master.
My Favorite part was when all the Trump haters started balling followed by utter-hatred...entertainment at its finest.
The amazing part to me is how the liberal dems were perfectly happy with Obama and Clinton, both of whom have lied repeatedly, and then want to be the "holier than thou" crowd with Trump. Come on. If you want to be outraged about unethical behavior, at least try to look a little bit consistent.
Just speaking for myself I have consistently blasted the dufus. I hate bullies, LIARS, and cheaters. He is all those things and a PUNK for talking ill of the dead.
...and the disabled and non-white people and women and LGBTQ persons and....Quote:
He is all those things and a PUNK for talking ill of the dead.
Unless, of course, they are named Clinton or Obama.Quote:
Just speaking for myself I have consistently blasted the dufus. I hate bullies, LIARS, and cheaters.
Well we could also speak of Bush and his associates
I suppose we cannot help who we like.
It all comes down to policies. I support Trump's policies (for the most part) and you supported Obama's. They are both guilty of lying, so that is not the difference maker. It's the policies.Quote:
I suppose we cannot help who we like.
and he plagerized his critique of McCain ....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwLt4XE1i2s
The attack on McCain is a simple distraction, as his MO is to change the subject when he doesn't like the conversation about him.
Trump has an injection into his wall, not from Mexico, but from the Pentagon. Apparently, there must be a military necessity, or is it emergency, to stop the flood of foreigners across the border to leach off the overinflated budget deficit. Come on, Tal, you surely don't want Trump to have to stop foreign aid so he can feed the millions already in your own land
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKYEE1-U_tc
The Dufus's emergency is an overblown lie like everything else he says. That's why half the country didn't vote for him, and even more think he is a crook.
Your lies are just as bad, half the country wouldn't vote for any Repelican no matter who he is, just as half the country wouldn't vote for any Demonrat. The country is balanced on a knife edge when it comes to votes for the Presidency and the only thing that makes any difference is the electoral college.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
There is an emergency and has been for years. Build the wall.
The emergency is incompetence and inefficient government that no wall can fix.
Undoubtedly, but it didn't start with Trump, and it won't end there. You need to get rid of the inefficient form of governance which relies on influence peddling and corruptionQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
You cannot patrol a thousand miles of border on foot. If we haven't learned anything else, we've learned that. I'm sure the government could be more efficient and competent, but a wall is the only solution I have heard of that stands a good chance of working.
This is 2019. Technology rules!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
And on which side of the river will you build that wall? We'll cut off our nose to spite our face?
I can't argue with the effects of Mo'Money on the elected officials.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
So we won't need all those humans patrolling our border? What about under and over it?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
An electronic wall!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
What they are doing now without a wall is plainly not working. With a wall, they will have a much better chance.Quote:
So we won't need all those humans patrolling our border? What about under and over it?
As to an electronic wall, go check on the prisons and jails and see how many of them are using an electronic wall. It's just a pipedream.
Yes, it's plainly now working! Chance at what? On which side of the river would this wall be?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
With hundreds of thousands of illegal crossings a year, I don't know how you can regard that as working.Quote:
Yes, it's plainly now working!
Reducing the numbers to merely thousands rather than hundreds of thousands.Quote:
Chance at what?
It would have to be our side. There are presently walls and fences at various points. Which side are they built on?Quote:
On which side of the river would this wall be?
That's what YOU said.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
What about the river? Why would we block ourselves off from that very important waterway?Quote:
It would have to be our side. There are presently walls and fences at various points. Which side are they built on?
If it were me I would build it up the centre of the river, has advantages like no tunnels and much more difficulty in getting to it and climbing it, also less eminent domain issues but then maybe I don't know the terrain but building it back from the river is just inviting people to crossQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Whoops. That "now" should have been "not". Good catch.
Gates? That's what prisons use, gates. Seem to work pretty well. "Gated" communities used gates. Schools surrounded by fences use... gates.Quote:
What about the river? Why would we block ourselves off from that very important waterway?
There are easier and cheaper ways than a wall in the middle of a river. The construction alone boggles the mind, never mind maintenance and oversight.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
What a maintenance? What oversight? No more than you spend now, and easily built using pile drivers on barges. If this boggles the mind, you are easily boggledQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Then you move here and show us, please. I've read articles by engineers who say the cost alone would be mindboggling. And going from country to country would be horrendous.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I thought you had bridges and checkpoints to go from country to country so that is a different issue. The cost of any wall is mindboggling, many miles, difficult terrain but if you are going to build it, get on with it, or contract it out to the Chinese, they have wall building skills, a willing work force and you may be able to convince them to go home when the job is doneQuote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
We already have some areas that are fenced. I don't understand why you think it is such a difficult undertaking to build a wall. Move a couple of hundred yards north of the river and build the wall. Simple.
Eminent domain, access to water, not to mention you have allowed illegals on to your landQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
By law, migrants are NOT illegal until they have been processed. What's illegal is denying them that process. Like that stops the immigration hardliners from siding with the dufus not just about a wall, but the inhumane management of this classic issue, just as he mismanages MANY of our issues we face as a country.
The wall is but a smokescreen that the hardliners can rally around against the real issue of divide and conquer and GET PAID. Even sadder that the bible thumpers and racist coalition rally behind the side of fear and division and LIES.
We want to stop the flood of illegal immigrants, clean and simple. Sad that in your mind that makes us "bible thumpers and racist coalition". Yet you are the guy that wants to bemoan the practice of name calling by Trump. Sounds to me like the two of you have a lot in common.Quote:
The wall is but a smokescreen that the hardliners can rally around against the real issue of divide and conquer and GET PAID. Even sadder that the bible thumpers and racist coalition rally behind the side of fear and division and LIES.
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