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aint going to happen because all the scenarios leads to a Republican takover of the executive .The Dems will sacrifice if a Dem assumes the position. But as we see in Va. the Dems will tough it out in sex assault and racism charges if the alternative is to lose the position to a Republican.
Here is what I don't understand on these accusations. If these two women have credible stories about what was basically rape, then why would Fairfax be impeached? Why wouldn't the justice system of whatever state this happened in bring charges against him? If the stories are true, then he is a criminal. It would not be a political issue but a criminal one.
As to the issue of credibility, the first accusation against Fairfax is filled with details and Fairfax admitted it happened, but claimed it was consensual. It's a completely different case from Ford's hazy and inaccurate recollections about Kavanaugh.
Will be interesting to see if the senate dems forcefully support these women's accusations against Fairfax the same way they did Ford's. So far they decidedly have not.
Actually dems have already come out for the accusers credibility, and the Virginia legislature want Fairfax to handle his business out of office, as it is a possible criminal case. Of course repubs are salivating at a chance to take over Virginia without an election, so it remains to be seen if Northam can survive, or the AG, who called for the Gov to resign, and then admitted he did the same thing.
Fairfax deserves his day in court and is innocent until proven guilty. We don't conduct justice in this country by reading an accuser's statement and saying, "Gosh, that sure does sound credible, so he is bound to be guilty." Man I'm glad that's not how we do things.Quote:
Actually dems have already come out for the accusers credibility, and the Virginia legislature want Fairfax to handle his business out of office, as it is a possible criminal case. Of course repubs are salivating at a chance to take over Virginia without an election, so it remains to be seen if Northam can survive, or the AG, who called for the Gov to resign, and then admitted he did the same thing.
Before you make the dems sound too holy, which of the national dems have called for his resignation in the same way they did Kavanaugh?
wonder if the Dems will go after Fairfax the same way Republicans threw Roy Moore under the bus.
Good question, though it is true to some extent that Moore threw himself under the bus, but even at that, he would have been another republican vote which is, I imagine, your point.
yes if the Dems knew they would retain the seats, then all 3 of the pols in hot water in Va would already be gone.
So much is just plain politics. Nothing to do with ethics. I think Fairfax should have his day in court, and I don't agree with jumping to judgement with him anymore than I did with Kavanaugh.
The real amazement to me is Northam. It's fine to advocate for infanticide, but if a 35 year old pic of someone in black face and a KKK robe shows up from a yearbook, then it's time to kick him out. What a strange set of values that represents.
I find that strange myself JL, as strange as his public reactions and statement since it was revealed. It's no secret that those frat boys back in the day were wild and weird, present politics notwithstanding, but I admire your consistency, though we often disagree. It's all good if not baffling at times.
One thing we know is bad behavior is bipartisan and bears closer scrutiny of all our politicians.
The pc world is killing us. Gucci just recalled this sweater
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/asse...xlarge-169.jpg
https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/07/us/gu...ter/index.html
Katie Perry is under assault for her shoe line . https://www.askmehelpdesk.com/image/...eoQgEIQg//2Q==
They should recall that sweater, but only because it is unspeakably ugly. Who would ever wear such a thing?
Companies like Gucci and Prada (which is also in pc hot water ) have been trend setters for years . But in the brave new world the radical fringe has become the mainstream and it appears the radical Dem candidates can't keep up with the bases move to the bizarre Even Cory Booker and Kamala Harris are under heat by the thought police. Did you hear that Harris had to defend the fact that she married a white man ????
They should have made it full faceQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
I actually thought it was a joke when I first saw it. Come to think of it, I still tend to think it's a joke.
Well of course it is but there are some people who think it is fashion just because it has a name on itQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
The Democratic Party must ask itself if it’s willing to sacrifice Virginia in 2020 on the altar of Ralph Northam.
Wow. Tough one. Should have put the Duke Lacrosse accuser's in there as well.
did you see where Al Sharpton was chiding Smollett and said he should face maximum penalty ? oh the irony !
Liars, cheaters, and connivers should be held accountable. Unfortunately they make it bad for REAL victims to be taken seriously. A bigger irony though is the dufus tweet storm is conspicuously silent about the coast guard officer arrested as a terrorist. A self avowed white supremacist stashing guns and drugs for his big attack on dufus critics.
I say give him the death penalty
Here is the difference, Tal. You did not see conservatives leaping to the defense of the Coast Guard officer simply because he was a white conservative. In the case of Smollet however, every liberal in America immediately got on board with him. Same was true regarding the Covington County kids and Dr. Ford. They did not wait to see what the evidence brought forward. Their support was motivated by pure politics and is nauseating in that regard.
Sharpton's comment is especially interesting considering his support, years ago, of Tawana Brawley and her accusations, false as it turned out, of serious crimes committed against her by a white officer. I wonder if he believes he has any culpability in that case?
They were supposed to leap to the defense of a victim, and have since turned on him after the facts came to light just as Sharpton did decades ago. Got enough facts to condemn the terrorist yet? If I were a judge, or prosecuter, or Empire executive I would have Smollett tested for mental defect and competency. What he did was insane.
I hate bullies!
Well, they didn't leap to the defense of the Covington kids when it became plain they were victims of the insane national media. They did not leap to the defense of the Duke lacrosse team when they were treated disgracefully and then proven to be innocent, They likewise did not leap to the defense of the policeman in Ferguson who was treated shamefully and was the victim of Michael Brown.Quote:
They were supposed to leap to the defense of a victim,
What??Quote:
and have since turned on him after the facts came to light just as Sharpton did decades ago.
He is plainly guilty.Quote:
Got enough facts to condemn the terrorist yet?
Maybe.Quote:
If I were a judge, or prosecuter, or Empire executive I would have Smollett tested for mental defect and competency. What he did was insane.
With you there TalQuote:
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It's being reported that the bully who assaulted the student at Berkley has been arrested and will be prosecuted.
other bogus hate crimes allegations in the Trump era where the initial presumption was that it was committed by Trumpsters ,or white supremists :
Hopewell Baptist Church ;graffiti 'Vote Trump' ,and arson .Later revealed that the crime was committed by Andrew McClinton,an African-American member of the church.“Heil Trump” and ”F-g Church” were spray-painted on St. David’s Episcopal Church in Indiana after the election. It was the gay organ player for the chuch who did it.
5 black candidates of the Air Force Academy Preparatory School were bombarded with hate speech messages on a message board . Turns out it was done by other black cadets .
Yasmin Seweid, told police that three Trump supporters harassed her and tried to steal her hajib on a NYC subway.Two weeks later when Seweid admitted she made the whole thing up because she’d been out late drinking with friends and was afraid her strict Muslim Egyptian father would be angry.
Eastern Michigan University was vandalized by graffiti that said, “leave n—-s” and “KKK.” A former student, African-American Eddie Curlin,was eventually caught.
More than 2,000 bomb threats to Jewish institutions, including the Israeli Embassy in Washington, DC, were made in the first three months of 2017. The assumption was that a white supremist was involved . The perp caught wasa Jewish Israeli-American named Michael Ron David Kadar. Kadar had been rejected from the Israeli Defense Forces over mental health issues .
8 of the threats came from Juan Thompson ,and African-American journalist who was trying to frame a women he broke up with. He had previously been fired from The Intercept for making up sources and stories. In response to his firing, he blamed the “white New York media” and claimed his editors were racist.
Union Temple in Brooklyn was defaced with
African-American Adwoa Lewis said four teens yelled “Trump 2016!,” told her she didn’t belong here and slashed her tires in September 2018, leaving a note that read “Go Home.” She later admitted to making the story up and putting the note on her car.
“Die Jew Rats” and “Jew Better Be Ready” .Again the supposition was that the perp was a white supremist. The perp was actuallyThree Savannah churches and a civil rights museum were vandalized, raising the specter of a hate crime. But it was an African-American, David Smith III, who had thrown bricks through the doors.Gay African-American James Polite, who had previously interned for City Council Speaker Christine Quinn and was raised by Jewish foster parents. He was charged for hate crimes for the graffiti and setting fires at four other Jewish temples and schools. But friends and advocates say bigotry isn’t to blame; Polite is bipolar and was convinced that the FBI and CIA had taken over the city’s homeless shelter system.More than 100 students marched to demand “safe spaces” after “KKK,” swastikas and the last names of four black and Latino students were scrawled in a bathroom stall at Goucher College near Baltimore in November 2018. But it turned out one of those graffiti’d names, Flynn Arthur, 21, was the person responsible. The biracial lacrosse player explained to cops that “he had been drinking and just did something dumb.”
7-year-old African-American girl, Jazmine Barnes, was killed in a drive by shooting .Witnesses said a white man in a pickup truck was nearby. “We’ve got to call it what it is. Black people are being targeted in this country,” said activist Deric Muhammad. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee insisted, “Do not be afraid to call this what it seems to be — a hate crime,” But the investigation led to the arrest of two African-Americans, Eric Black Jr. and Larry D. Woodruffe, who police believe shot into Barnes’ car in a case of mistaken identity.
Kind of seems like a trend??
The prevailing right wing trend is taking many anecdotes and making an assumption while ignoring the 10x more opposite stories of REAL victims of hate and bigotry. The Smollett case is a perfect example of one nut gaming the system making it hard on the real victims to be believed.
Neither of you has commented on the victims of the Acosta deal that let the rich old pedophile and his rich buddies abuse women and girls for decades. Naw you rather look up the nuts and dismiss the real people to justify more abuse of people other than yourselves. Feeding fear, hatred and bigotry is the game of connivers which you have every right to play, as long as you acknowledge the consequences of such bad behavior.
I dismiss the premise of those trends as faulty incomplete data that skews the bigger picture.
seriously you want us to go after Acosta and not Epstein ...or Bubba and Menendez ,or the many people on Epstein's guest list who were frequent guests to his island of underaged sex debauchery ? Trump may be included too . Take them all down if the charges are true .
Let's hear them. List them.Quote:
10x more opposite stories of REAL victims of hate and bigotry.
another one :
https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...ly/2978003002/
all your fearsabout Kavanaughwere for nothing
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...z2lr3E1KpGhQTQ
Like they say in baseball... small sample size.
not really . This goes back to Ike . Earl Warren and William Brennan were both Ike pick and became lib justices . Nixon appointed Harry Blackmond ,one of the most liberal justices ever .He also picked Warren Burger . Reagan picked Kennedy and O'Conner ,both of whom took liberal positions on many issues . GHW Bush selected David Souter who became a consistent voted for liberal causes even as he was sold as a strict constructionist . Roberts has been pretty much a reliable lib vote since he affirmed the constitutionality of Obamacare . Meanwhile ,in every case since FDR that a Dem selected a Justice to SCOTUS ,they have been reliable liberal votes.
Wonder why that is?
because it is more important for them to be accepted into the DC social circuit than to stick to their principles .
You implying the DC social circuit is liberal and conservatives ain't welcome? Why can't they schmooze with their own? Won't the rich wingers notice?
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