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They are no less equal because their particular ethnic group is not named in the constitution in fact that is equality, they are no more equal than anyone else. Any provision which specifically singled them out was removed from the constitution long ago and they became human, not fauna.

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The left needs sub-group identity to justify their philosophy .
If they can't find victims to champion ,they make them up and their grevience .They thrive on fostering self pity in the group while they profess and encourge self rightious anger . They are largely succeeding .The protected victim groups are no longer in the minority of the population . Soon there won't be any group that isn't a victim except perhaps white conservative males.
Modern victimhood is a political status that is sought after because of the advantages it brings.

Blah blah blah fanatical echo chamber speak...

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Where do you get this stuff or should I say guff. The left identifies with minorities because the right ignores them and even victimises them. The true victim in all of this is the silent majority because they are exploited with the sort of rhetoric you expound

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When a government grants itself the power to bestow material benefits selectively on individuals and groups, people are going to seek to take advantage of that government and grievance industries will abound.The left thrives on that.

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Nope, both your political parties do that - you are just too obtuse to see that. You have lost control of your government, no amount of hollering from the cheap seats on an internet forum will change that.

yep there are a bunch of RINO statists in the Repubics too . That's why I did not identify them by party affiliation .

Nope, they (US politicians) all are out to make a killing on the public treasury... and in private deals with special interest groups. Remember - the accumulation of wealth is the highest priority there, it trumps all else.

Yes but Tom doesn't identify that by party affiliation, he sits on the fence and casts aspirtions

I've made it clear I am not a Republican . This is not a fence sitting situation . They are closer to where I am at than the hopelessly progressive Democrats . But I still have major disagreements with their leadership on some important issues.

Republican leadership, can it be found in the land? The current string of candidates cannot be said to represent leadership although one may emerge from the ruck if enough money is spent

Do they? another black death after an incident involving a police officer

'I will light you up!': Texas officer threatened Sandra Bland with Taser during traffic stop

The culture of white on black violence continues

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Do they? another black death after an incident involving a police officer

'I will light you up!': Texas officer threatened Sandra Bland with Taser during traffic stop

The culture of white on black violence continues

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Do you think anyone black white or whatever color of the day should disobey direct orders from a police officer that appear to be normal in the course of a routine traffic stop? It just illistrates more of the media trying to push an agenda then it is anything that smacks of over stepping boundries.

They want to see a war internally in this country and they are pushing for it daily. It is truely sad.

The cops blew another one!

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Do you think anyone black white or whatever color of the day should disobey direct orders from a police officer that appear to be normal in the course of a routine traffic stop? It just illistrates more of the media trying to push an agenda then it is anything that smacks of over stepping boundries.

They want to see a war internally in this country and they are pushing for it daily. It is truely sad.

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Normal, is it normal for a police officer to be abusive, obnoxious, officious and just plain arrogant over a minor infringement where he was just filling his book. I find the whole procedure incrediable. Tal I saw the video and to me that cop was over the top, Not only that but the camera is there for a reason and he deliberately took the arrestee out of view of the camera. Is what happens when someone stands up for their rights in your country, He assaulted that woman in her car and then arrested her for an assault on him.

Maybe you do need another war of liberation, it appears the results of the first one have been forgotten

And why would she hang herself in jail? She had just landed a job she really wanted, and her sister was going to pay the $500 bail.

Deaths in custody can be inexplicable, some people can be very depressed by being placed in jail for more than a few hours. We have had a lot of experience here with people of colour dying in custody, but the reasons would be entirely different there where there is entrenched racism. As there were no cameras in her cell the whole thing is very suspect

She seemed angry, not depressed. Depression is anger turned inwards, but there was no reason to be angry at herself.

Looking at the stats it seems deaths in custody is an all too frequent occurrence

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Normal, is it normal for a police officer to be abusive, obnoxious, officious and just plain arrogant over a minor infringement where he was just filling his book. I find the whole procedure incrediable. Tal I saw the video and to me that cop was over the top, Not only that but the camera is there for a reason and he deliberately took the arrestee out of view of the camera. Is what happens when someone stands up for their rights in your country, He assaulted that woman in her car and then arrested her for an assault on him.

Maybe you do need another war of liberation, it appears the results of the first one have been forgotten

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It appears to me that the woman was out of line by refusing to put out her cigarette and then later refusing to get out of the car as she had been asked to do. All the while mouthing off to the officer.

Maybe where your at you can tell the cops how you want it handled but here you are expected to obey when asked to comply.

Even when the officer is full of crap?

Yasum, masta!

In this anti-cop environment ....my only critique of the cop is that he didn't call for backup .

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Because she didn't signal when changing lanes? How many times have you done that, even out of state, even with a cop nearby, and didn't get pulled over?

***Added*** Her big mistake was arguing with him.

yes her big mistake was arguing with him . He would NOT have asked her to get out of the car if she had been reasonable . And for the record ,I think the signal law should be enforced more often . I consider it a dangerous situation when drivers don't signal their intentions . I have had to brake hard more than once because of that .

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I consider it a dangerous situation when drivers don't signal their intentions . I have had to brake hard more than once because of that .

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Well there's one driver one that won't be bothering you anymore.

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He apparently did call for backup while he was still next to her car. Unfortunately, if she had simply complied, whether she agreed or not, a ticket would likely have been the only outcome.

The debate now will be should she have been placed on suicide watch.

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Well there's one driver one that won't be bothering you anymore.

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Going unreported is the number of road rage incidents that result from the lack of courtesy for other drivers ;like doing the simple ,basic things ;like signaling before changing lanes.

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It's a very violent society.

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens - The Onion - America's Finest News Source

Ordering her to put out her cigarette is a lawful police order?

Why should he be concerned, he was writing a ticket, unless she was blowing smoke up his nose. There is a lot of attitude in all of this and it would seem cops need more training

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Retired Los Angeles Police Capt. Greg Meyer said Bland's behavior led to the result.
“Officers have complete discretion to control the movements of the violator, including making them get out the car,” he said.
Meyer said it is standard practice to have someone put out their cigarette.
“No one, including a police officer, wants to get a burning cigarette jammed into their face or eye; it’s basic procedure,” he said. “The officer asked politely if she would mind putting out her cigarette. The violator then raised her voice, actively resisted multiple lawful directions to get out of the car. The officer requested a backup officer to respond. The officer raised his voice several times in what turned out to be a futile effort to overcome that resistance.”
In hindsight, Meyer said, it may have been better to wait for backup. “The lady seemed committed to her resistance to lawful detention and arrest, so the presence of a backup unit might not have made much difference,” he said.
“This is yet another case of someone who chooses to illegally resist the directions of a police officer, thus escalating the situation, “ he said.

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WATCH: Dashcam Video of Sandra Bland Traffic Stop Arrest | Heavy.com

Texas trooper who arrested Sandra Bland violated police policies: investigators

7 important questions about the arrest, assault, and death of Sandra Bland

The officer is being investigated over this arrest. To suggest this officer was in fear of his safety over a freakin' cigarette since she was cooperative to that point is pretty lame. He rode up on her in the first place, stopped her and took her out of dash cam range where he conveniently started having problems.

She was charged with assaulting an officer, not disobeying a lawful order. That in itself is suspicious.

Perhaps he was looking for a little on the spot penalty. I think his behaviour indicates he is an offender and this time he got caught