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  • Jan 12, 2014, 09:06 AM
    talaniman
    What got no point, just a rant huh? Okay I can understand it. I rant too!! :D
  • Jan 12, 2014, 12:30 PM
    speechlesstx
    Yes, you're very good at it.
  • Jan 12, 2014, 02:02 PM
    speechlesstx
    Is come to this.

    Portland pimp sues Nike for $100 million for lack of warning label after beating victim with Jordans | OregonLive.com
  • Jan 12, 2014, 02:31 PM
    Tuttyd
    Reading the article I think it is pretty obvious the guy isn't the full quid.
  • Jan 12, 2014, 02:42 PM
    Tuttyd
    "If corporations are people, how come nobody is going to jail"

    Ex, I imagine the answer is that in order to individuals of a corporation to go to gaol it would need to be shown that an individual, or individuals were directly responsible for a criminal action. However, in reality it appear to be a rare occurrence.

    That's the beauty of corporate personhood, the company gets all of the advantage of being an individual person while at the same time shirks the important responsibilities.

    I am seriously considering turning myself into a corporation.
  • Jan 12, 2014, 03:35 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    Reading the article I think it is pretty obvious the guy isn't the full quid.
    Some people seem to have a knack in trying very hard to make stupid people famous.
  • Jan 12, 2014, 04:20 PM
    paraclete
    Yes but tutt is right a few kangaroos loose in the top paddock there
  • Jan 12, 2014, 06:20 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    If corporations are people, how come nobody is going to jail?
    it's obvious , the Justice Dept and local DAs are much better at the shakedown game than making a case stick. Manhattan's DA Cyrus Vance has only brought a criminal case against 1 bank ; a Chinese bank named Abacus.JPMorganChase, Morgan Stanley, Goldman Sachs and Citigroup — are all headquartered in Manhattan. So if the lefties in power want to keep the gravy train ,they have to go easy on the prosecutions .
  • Jan 13, 2014, 09:40 AM
    speechlesstx
    Reuters, in nod to stupidity, discovers the Pope is Catholic.

    Pope, in nod to conservatives, calls abortion 'horrific'

    Obviously this doesn't fit the "progressive" Pope narrative so teaching Catholic doctrine is now just a "bone tossing" exercise.
  • Jan 13, 2014, 10:02 AM
    talaniman
    Progressive's agree with the pope on some things, and disagree on others. So what, aren't conservatives the same way? What's new about the pope saying abortions are bad, that's what all the popes have said. What's the big deal?
  • Jan 13, 2014, 10:32 AM
    speechlesstx
    It's isn't about the Pope, it's about Reuters treatment of the Pope. It's an ignorant article, The Pope's words are not something to be bent to support the media's preferred narrative, condeming abortion as he has always done is not a political bone to toss to conservatives.
  • Jan 13, 2014, 10:47 AM
    talaniman
    Fair enough.
  • Jan 13, 2014, 11:54 AM
    speechlesstx
    It's come to this, Medicare payments for "penis pumps" have "swelled" in recent years.

    Not that I'm one to put a damper on an erection, but the federal government can't even buy them at retail price.

    Quote:

    The federal government paid more than double the retail price for VES, the Department of Health and Human Services IG found. Medicare prices for the systems, the report said, “remain grossly excessive compared with the amounts that non-Medicare payers pay.”
    Because no one needs a penis pump to give the government the shaft I suppose.
  • Jan 13, 2014, 01:36 PM
    Tuttyd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It's come to this, Medicare payments for "penis pumps" have "swelled" in recent years.

    Not that I'm one to put a damper on an erection, but the federal government can't even buy them at retail price.



    Because no one needs a penis pump to give the government the shaft I suppose.


    Well obviously. You double the price you double the enjoyment. Everyone knows that.
  • Jan 13, 2014, 04:29 PM
    NeedKarma
    Overpaying for stuff has been going on for decades. Even I sold the gov stuff at inflated prices.
  • Jan 13, 2014, 05:17 PM
    paraclete
    yes corruption has a price
  • Jan 13, 2014, 06:38 PM
    paraclete
    Has anyone considered the impact of corruption on the government deficit over time, if corruption had a 10% impact on the value of government contracts that would mean a $50 billion dollar hit just on the federal government expenditures alone. But corruption goes far further than that when the impact of the GFC corrupt practices are taken into account. The mortgage agencies Freddie and Fanny returned $40 billion to the federal coffers in December. Stamp out corruption and you stamp out the deficit.
  • Jan 13, 2014, 09:34 PM
    talaniman
    Oh I have no doubt the shenanigans of both government and the private sector, and consider military contracts, and retired military and government officials who go to work for the companies they wrote laws and regulations for as lobbyist, its no wonder that the government for the people represents everybody but the people.

    It definitely needs cleaning up.
  • Jan 13, 2014, 09:46 PM
    paraclete
    no only is it not government for the people it is not government by the people, when Lincoln spoke of those concepts he was speaking about opposing the interests that tried to entrench cronyism and privilege in the government, those who had tried to enforce slavery. Actually you would have been better off if you had let them succeed, they were a backwards agrian society.
  • Jan 13, 2014, 09:50 PM
    talaniman
    YEP.
  • Jan 14, 2014, 06:02 AM
    speechlesstx
    Some governments like my city actually do live by competitive bidding which keeps our expenses down. Others not so much. The obama regime likes no bid contracts which is how we get dysfunctional websites at great expense. Another part of the problem is if a government agency doesn't spend all its budget they rush to spend it in the last month so their budget doesn't get cut whether they need anything or not. I get calls every September from government agencies wanting to buy things for that reason alone, and I COULD virtually name my price.
  • Jan 14, 2014, 06:10 AM
    talaniman
    That's something I can agree with Speech, its been a practice for a long time.
  • Jan 14, 2014, 06:52 AM
    NeedKarma
    Yep, that's been going on forever. I've been on either end of that.
  • Jan 14, 2014, 01:31 PM
    paraclete
    There is a way to stop that practice and it is called zero based budgetting. What it means is every budget starts from scratch each year, each item is examined and agreed on. There is none of this we spent this amount last year and we will need 110% next year. The next step is the sunset clause in all contracts and projects, if not completed there are significant penalties and failure to meet specific goals means you loose the contract.

    What should have been done with the ACA for example is that the insurers were set goals for participation, a market share they had to achieve and a price ceiling they had to stay under. I know it's not free market, but to borrow a quote from the movies "nothing is free in..........."
  • Jan 15, 2014, 08:30 AM
    speechlesstx
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    More vaping outrage. Seems congressional Democrats have nothing more pressing than this...

    Quote:

    Senate Democrats were not amused to see Julia Louis-Dreyfus puffing away on an electronic cigarette during the Golden Globe Awards.

    The lawmakers said the Louis-Dreyfus, who plays a fictional vice president on HBO’s “Veep,” helped glamorize smoking on the broadcast, and are pressing NBC Universal to ensure that the “e-cigarettes” are not featured again.

    “The Golden Globes celebrates entertainers who are an influence on young fans,” the Democrats wrote. “We ask the Hollywood Foreign Press Association and NBC Universal to take actions to ensure that future broadcasts of the Golden Globes do not intentionally feature images of e-cigarettes. Such action would help to avoid the glamorization of smoking and protect the health of young fans.”

    The letter was signed by Sens. Durbin (Ill.), Richard Blumenthal (Conn.), Sherrod Brown (Ohio) and Edward Markey (Mass.), and sent to NBC Universal CEO Stephen Burke and Hollywood Foreign Press Association president Theo Kingma.
    They probably wrote this while having a few drinks I'm guessing. Gee, is there really nothing better to be outraged about than vaping? I'm guessing they had no problem with Colorado's ridiculous Obamacare ads that just might have a much more lasting and detrimental affect on "young fans." Puff on an e-cigarette? Bad. Sell Obamacare by promoting promiscuity, good.

    Quote:

    "OMG, he's hot! Let's hope he's as easy to get as this birth control. My health insurance covers the pill, which means all I have to worry about is getting him between the covers," read the words in the risqué advertisement.
    Vaping, bad, Kegstands good.

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    How about fixing that disaster called Obamacare or balancing a budget or something?
  • Jan 15, 2014, 08:39 AM
    smoothy
    Make you wonder if that's really thinly veiled advert for life insurance... because those guys might not make it into middle age.
  • Jan 15, 2014, 04:17 PM
    paraclete
    all publicity is good publicity, those guys are an indication of why you should have insurance for self inflicted injury
  • Jan 16, 2014, 08:27 AM
    speechlesstx
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    China has listed the benefits of its smog.

    Quote:

    In America, we're used to our government, our industry and our media putting a spin on events to make the world seem a brighter, better place than it really is. But some of China's media is showing some impressive spin talent of its own, with a rationalization for pollution that is, quite literally, breathtaking.

    Much of China has been suffering through choking smog in recent weeks, which has hampered daily activities and forced the closure of schools. In response, state broadcaster CCTV published a list of reasons documenting the benefits of smog. Yes, benefits.


    A Time magazine translator indicated the following CCTV rationalizations for smog:
    1. It unifies the Chinese people.
    2. It makes China more equal.
    3. It raises citizen awareness of the cost of China’s economic development.
    4. It makes people funnier.
    5. It makes people more knowledgeable (of things like meteorology and the English word haze).
    That's some interesting rationalization. Following that line of thinking, hurricanes also unify people by forcing them to leave their isolated homes and gather in collectives. Tornadoes give people a sense of the power of nature. Wildfires place everyone on an equal footing by burning everyone's possessions to the ground. See? The problem isn't nature, the problem is you.

    Of course this looks like a benefit...

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    Naturally, the UN climate chief holds communism as the best cure for climate change, with China as the shining example.

    Quote:

    United Nations climate chief Christiana Figueres said that democracy is a poor political system for fighting global warming. Communist China, she says, is the best model.


    China may be the world’s top emitter of carbon dioxide and struggling with major pollution problems of their own, but the country is “doing it right” when it comes to fighting global warming says Figueres.


    “They actually want to breathe air that they don’t have to look at,” she said. “They’re not doing this because they want to save the planet. They’re doing it because it’s in their national interest.”



    You can't make this stuff up.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 08:35 AM
    NeedKarma
    That is impressive spin to be sure. Many american cities have their own similar smog problems as well... they just don't spin like China does.

    BTW do you know why the person in the picture is covering their mouth?
  • Jan 16, 2014, 08:45 AM
    speechlesstx
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    Quote:

    That is impressive spin to be sure. Many american cities have their own similar smog problems as well... they just don't spin like China does.
    There are no cities in America that have that kind of smog problem any more.

    Quote:

    BTW do you know why the person in the picture is covering their mouth?
    The same reason everyone else is.

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  • Jan 16, 2014, 08:51 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    There are no cities in America that have that kind of smog problem any more.
    A quick image search would prove that wrong. Is the EPA and Clean Air Act providing excellent results?

    Quote:

    The same reason everyone else is.
    There are various reasons, I'm sure you're aware of the culture.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 08:54 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    A quick image search would prove that wrong. Is the EPA and Clean Air Act providing excellent results?
    Well by all means, let's see 'em.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 08:59 AM
    NeedKarma
    https://www.google.com/search?safe=a...11.TNvv-x2sf_8
  • Jan 16, 2014, 09:06 AM
    talaniman
    Texas and West Virginia have had disasters as a direct result of not enforcing the rules. Ohio is closing gates to stop the chemical leak from migrating to them. These are two examples of NOT inspecting facilities. Go ahead, keep shrinking the government and doing away with people and resources to protect us.

    Pay me now, or pay me later comes to mind and its always more expensive later.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 09:25 AM
    speechlesstx
    Those pics mean nothing, tell us how many smog alerts LA has had in the last 10 years. I was there a year ago and you can see a haze but it isn't what's going on in China by a long shot.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 09:29 AM
    NeedKarma
    I agree with you that big business needs regulations... and they work. Your example shows what happens when you allow it to run unrestrained.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 09:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    Are you under some impression that I don't believe in regulations?
  • Jan 16, 2014, 09:35 AM
    talaniman
    So you think the EPA is important enough to give it the resources and tools to do their job properly. Like I do?
  • Jan 16, 2014, 10:00 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    So you think the EPA is important enough to give it the resources and tools to do their job properly. Like I do?
    No I don't, it's a rogue agency with too much power.
  • Jan 16, 2014, 10:34 AM
    talaniman
    So you would rather the chemical spills foul the water supply, or fertilizer plants blow up? Okay, I gotcha.

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