Ask Me Help Desk - The sequester

Cutting White House tours should have been a warning that action by congress was needed before it got worse. Of course you guys rather throw rocks than replace the sequester because its better than admitting you guys didn't want to do anything but throw rocks in the first place.

And this Benghazi thing you guys keep latching on and made public so you can throw even more rocks. If it was a secret mission why would they tell you and the rest of the world? Or you guys anyway?

My point is facts have never mattered. You seem to keep plenty of rocks to throw. Throw them at your fellow repubs, and get meals on wheels back to the old people and cancer patients their treatments as fast as you got your ride home.

That's the point Tal, facts do matter. The admin keeps lying about Benghazi which should piqué your curiosity, too. The admin's lies and fear mongering about the sequester were bad enough, the hypocrisy is breathtaking and the fact they intentionally made and publicized cuts that Americans might feel is downright self-serving and heartless.

But glad to know you support private orgs like Meals on Wheels.

The real hypocrisy is all the time and money wasted not getting the job done. Most of these things should have been solved years ago had the priority been to the people.

The saddest thing is it could still get done tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by talaniman

The real hypocrisy is all the time and money wasted not getting the job done. Most of these things should have been solved years ago had the priority been to the people.

The saddest thing is it could still get done tomorrow.

Well gee, we've only been wondering why the Democrat-led Senate took over three years to pass a budget for how long?

Stop freaking out on parliamentary tricks why don't you, because they haven't had an official budget MANY times during the last 30 years. Look up the facts about continuing resolutions and get with the program if you are going to nitpick what you holler about.

You may have gotten an A in creation but did you pass civics?

Hello again,

There's a phrase that I'm trying to remember.. It's something like waving at the roses... But, it has to do with making something out of nothing... Like you rail about the Senate not passing a budget, as though it really matters.. Ever since you started hollering about it, I wondered why, if it was so crucial, haven't we felt the economic effects from those lazy Democrats.. I kept looking for 'em.. I asked you guys about it. Nothing... I wondered the NEXT year when you complained about it, and I wonder NOW.

Is not passing a budget like not passing gun control?? Is it like not passing immigration reform?? I really don't know... Maybe you can enlighten me..

Next, is this Bengazi thing you have. It's about NOTHING. It's right wing mental masturbation... You've said from the beginning, that it's a coverup, but you've NEVER said what's being covered up.. Tom mentioned that it COULD be the CIA's covert activities that were being covered up... Which brings to mind my thoughts that covert CIA activities OUGHT to BE covered up.. But, that's just me...

So, to tal's point... If you WANTED to solve the country's problems instead of doing EVERYTHING you can to RUIN Obama's presidency, you would. And, we could start TODAY. Instead, like Mitch McConnell, you want the president to FAIL. But, in your hatred of the man, you FORGET that the country LOOSES, when the president does...

In your IGNORANCE disguised as HATRED, YOU don't realize that YOU are the biggest enemy this country has right now.. Not the Taliban. Not Kim jun un. YOU!

Let me clarify that for you... Kim jun un has the POTENTIAL to hurt us.. The Taliban has the POTENTIAL to hurt us.. You ARE hurting us!

excon

Four people died in Benghazi... nobody died in Watergate... see which of them the Democrats made the big stink about and which one they are going overboard trying to cover up... to the point of witness intimidation and whistleblower retaliation.

But who could expect more from a common street thug like Obama... you can take the man out of the projects... but you can't take the projects out of the man..

If there was nothing there... then why the threats and intimidation tactics... which by the way are illegal on their own.

Hello again,

Yes, I have more to say... Even though you wingers NEED the country to pass immigration reform, BECAUSE Obama wants it too, you're going to DEFEAT it.

I guess you HATE this man MORE than you like yourselves... Makes no sense to me.

excon

Yeah I bet you didn't want to know about all those CIA activities revealed during the Church Commission hearings . I bet you didn't want to know about Iran-Contra. You have already demonstrated you are not concerned about Fast and Furious . Your faith in the operations of the government is admirable.
What will be revealed is that there was an operation by the Obama adm to train and supply cut-thoats from Libya... including jihadists loyal to a-Qaeda ,to fight in Syria .

Now for the rest of Benghazi ;we lost an AMBASSADOR who was murdered. That's like the loss of a ranking General in the field . The whistleblower a couple days ago said that they had identifed who was responsible and that he was frustrated that the trigger had not been pulled to "bring them to justice" .
Well suddenly yesterday the FBI published photos of the wanted jihadists . Imagine that ! They figured out who they were looking for the day after a whisle blower let the cat out of the bag. Yeah... no cover up there .
There are many more unanswered questions about accountablilty regarding this tragic fiasco. It is a big thing .

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Originally Posted by talaniman

Stop freaking out on parliamentary tricks why don't you, because they haven't had an official budget MANY times during the last 30 years. Look up the facts about continuing resolutions and get with the program if you are going to nitpick what you holler about.

You may have gotten an A in creation but did you pass civics?

I didn't have a civics class but I know excuses when I see them which is all you're offering. In not passing a budget the Senate was giving the law the finger and Americans the shaft and you, Obama and the Dems have been blaming it on Republican inaction though they HAVE passed a budget every year. Stop talking to us like we're stupid, I know a scam when I see one.

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Originally Posted by tomder55

yeah I bet you didn't want to know about all those CIA activities revealed during the Church Commission hearings . I bet you didn't want to know about Iran-Contra. You have already demonstrated you are not concerned about Fast and Furious . Your faith in the operations of the government is admirable.
What will be revealed is that there was an operation by the Obama adm to train and supply cut-thoats from Libya ...including jihadists loyal to a-Qaeda ,to fight in Syria .

Now for the rest of Benghazi ;we lost an AMBASSADOR who was murdered. That's like the loss of a ranking General in the field . The whistleblower a couple days ago said that they had identifed who was responsible and that he was frustrated that the trigger had not been pulled to "bring them to justice" .
Well suddenly yesterday the FBI published photos of the wanted jihadists . Imagine that ! They figured out who they were looking for the day after a whisle blower let the cat out of the bag. Yeah ...no cover up there .
There are many more unanswered questions about accountablilty regarding this tragic fiasco. It is a big thing .

But tom, that was like, 8 months ago, so yesterday. “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

Hello again, Steve:

Then you wouldn't mind if we undertook an investigation into why, either the CIA or Bush LIED about Iraq. It was like, 10 years ago. Sooo, yesterday...

Let me do some arithmetic that right wingers are incapable of.. 4 Americans died in Benghazi.. 4,000 Americans died in Iraq. That makes Iraq 4,000% worse. Aren't you interested in THAT coverup??

George Bush is STILL saying that Iraq was good, and that Iraq is a Democracy and an ally of ours in the war on terror. I'm sure you believe that clap trap too.

By the way. We NEED to get to the bottom of Iraq, because the SAME people who brought us Iraq, are saying that we need to invade Syria. If we don't STOP them, Syria is next, and Iran after that..

Talk about unsustainabe..

excon

excon... you forget they already did that... and Bush was proven to not have lied... get over it.

After the Benghazi fiasco has its investigation... then we see where that ends up. But since 4 Americans died... no way can they claim it never happened.

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George Bush is STILL saying that Iraq was good, and that Iraq is a Democracy and an ally of ours in the war on terror. I'm sure you believe that clap trap too

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It was until the Emperor cut the rug out from the victory .

Prove there were lies . If there were ,then the whole world was in on it .

So we should still investigate "Bush lied, people died" from a decade and a president ago ago but not "Obama lied, people died" from 8 months ago while the current guy in charge is still actively lying about it. Got it.

Hello again, tom:

Fact: There were NO WMD's. They SAID there were. Clearly, there were lies or mistakes.. I want to get to the bottom of EITHER one. I don't care which it is. I actually don't think Bush lied. I think Cheney did. But, SOMEBODY did, or SOMEBODY was really, REALLY bad at their job. I'd like to KNOW who that was. You?? Not so much...

I know, I know... You're going to act about that, like you complain the Democrats are acting about Benghazi...

And, around and around we go.

excon

YOU still believe that crap... you diodn't see the intelligence photos of them moving them into Syria at night right before in inspection... they were on the news...

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom:

Fact: There were NO WMD's. They SAID there were. Clearly, there were lies or mistakes.. I wanna get to the bottom of EITHER one. I don't care which it is. I actually don't think Bush lied. I think Cheney did. But, SOMEBODY did, or SOMEBODY was really, REALLY bad at their job. I'd like to KNOW who that was. You??? Not so much...

I know, I know.... You're gonna act about that, like you complain the Democrats are acting about Benghazi...

And, around and around we go.

excon

I welcome your investigation... here's a heads up . Saddam moved any operational WMD to Syria in the months that the invasion was delayed in UN negotiations ;and the weeks during the buildup. If they REALLY investigate it ;that is what they will find. This should not be news to you either . You just refuse to believe it.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, tom:

Fact: There were NO WMD's. They SAID there were. Clearly, there were lies or mistakes.. I wanna get to the bottom of EITHER one. I don't care which it is. I actually don't think Bush lied. I think Cheney did. But, SOMEBODY did, or SOMEBODY was really, REALLY bad at their job. I'd like to KNOW who that was. You??? Not so much...

I know, I know.... You're gonna act about that, like you complain the Democrats are acting about Benghazi...

And, around and around we go.

excon

It was the UN that lied. Geez, how many times do you have to be reminded that everyone was in agreement on Iraq's WMDs before it sinks in?

Hello again, smoothy:

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you diodn't see the intelligence photos of them moving them into Syria

Nahhh... I only caught Bush saying there were NO WMD's.. He really did, smoothy.. Here's HIM saying it.

Excon

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Hello again, smoothy:

Nahhh... I only caught Bush saying there were NO WMD's.. He really did, smoothy.. Here's HIM saying it.

excon

Pull up the ones with John Kerry, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Ried and Hillary Clinton saying there was... Obama was in a crack house stoned at the time and didn't know where he was that week.

You are aware they all get the same security breifings... just a little bit after the WHite house gets them... Unlike in the Obama administration... they don't originate from the Oval orifice.

Hello again, Steve:

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how many times do you have to be reminded that everyone was in agreement on Iraq's WMDs before it sinks in?

Here's the deal.. It matters NOT what the whole word believed. It only matters if it was the TRUTH. And, it clearly was NOT.

I'd like to know WHO dropped the ball. You? Not so much.

Excon

We already know... there was no ball dropped... there were WMD's. THe WMD's were moved...

After all Saddam had them... admitted to having them... and there is documented proof of him having used them against the Kurds... or is that bit of fact too inconvienient for your fantasy?

5,000 Kurds in Halabja in Iraq died from Saddams "non-existant" chemical weapons

Hello again, smoothy:

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or is that bit of fact too inconvienient for your fantasy?

Seems to me, that IF the WMD's were moved, George W. Bush would be sounding like YOU on that video. It's HIS legacy, after all. But, he doesn't. He doesn't even SUGGEST it. You don't think he would if he could??

So, which words coming out of Bush's mouth don't you believe? Or is the video a George Sorros trick?

Excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

Here's the deal.. It matters NOT what the whole word believed. It only matters if it was the TRUTH. And, it clearly was NOT.

I'd like to know WHO dropped the ball. You? Not so much.

excon

Oh but it does matter, especially that agency whose ineptness I've mentioned many times that was charged with verifying, the United Nations. You're singularly focused on blaming Bush/Cheney while giving everyone else a pass, why do they deserve a pass?

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Hello again, smoothy:

Seems to me, that IF the WMD's were moved, George W. Bush would be sounding like YOU on that video. It's HIS legacy, after all. But, he doesn't. He doesn't even SUGGEST it. You don't think he would if he could???

So, which words coming out of Bush's mouth don't you believe?? Or is the video a George Sorros trick?

excon

There are reasons... some of them having to do with stuff that was classified at the moment. And then because of people like you that wouldn't believe it if he took you to them and showed them to you.

Ever agree with your wife before even when you really didn't just to shut her up? Same thing.. same reasoning.

Hello again, Steve:

It's EITHER Bush/Cheney OR the CIA. It can only be ONE or the OTHER. I'm HAPPY to find out the bad guy, or the INEPT guy is the CIA.

I have NO DOG in this fight. I'm NOT here to BLAME anyone. I'm here to find out the TRUTH, so we don't get blindsided by the same people again. What's wrong with the TRUTH??

excon

PS> I guess it could be Barney Franks fault. I didn't think of that.

There was no reason for Bush to fight that battle anymore. Either you believed they were there or you thought he lied. He was not going to convince anyone either way and there were more challenging things to deal with in Iraq by that time.
Britannia Radio: Wikileaks Documents:Saddam's WMD Program Existed in Iraq (Note we reported the transfer of WMD's to Lebanon/Syria - at least 5 years ago and ignored

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

It's EITHER Bush/Cheney OR the CIA. It can only be ONE or the OTHER. I'm HAPPY to find out the bad guy, or the INEPT guy is the CIA.

I have NO DOG in this fight. I'm NOT here to BLAME anyone. I'm here to find out the TRUTH, so we don't get blindsided by the same people again. What's wrong with the TRUTH???

excon

PS> I guess it could be Barney Franks fault. I didn't think of that.

The White house doesn't generate the security briefing... they are just the first people to get it followed by the leaders and security commitees of the Senate and congress followed by the rest of congress. Then select other groups.

I was a regular recipient of it in the past... though be it low on the totem pole.

Hello again,

Being the curious fellow that I am, I wonder WHO made sure, in Colin Powell's speech to the UN, that he SAID there were Iraqi mobile chemical labs.. It wasn't true! You should wonder too, since this 4,000 times WORSE than Benghazi.

ONE guy said that. Curveball was his name. I don't know how much he was paid to say that, but he LIED. And, he SAYS he lied. There was NO corroboration.. There was nobody else. Just one guy and his story.. Yet, it was ONE of the reasons cited for our invasion. And, it was WRONG.

Aren't YOU curious too, as to HOW it got into Powell's speech? Now, I don't know about you, but I don't think the CIA all by itself would BELIEVE ONE guy's statements.. If so, they're NOT spooks, they're REPORTERS...

I'd like to know if our CIA is SLOOTHING, or REPORTING.. I'd think YOU'D want to know that stuff too. No, huh?

excon

Obama used the same Excuses... you are aware we have troops in Africa... for exactly what reason other then he is a Kenyan.. and Africa thinks the world owes them everything.

CNN.com - U.S.: Mobile labs found in Iraq - Apr. 15, 2003

"We didn't just make them up one night. Those were eyewitness accounts of people who had worked in the program and knew it was going on, multiple accounts. 'Oh, it was a hydrogen-making thing for balloons.' No, there's no question in my mind what it was designed for."Colin Powell.

Clinton got the same security briefings as well through both his terms that showed they existed... didn't hear him claiming BS because of party propaganda. And you don't hear the lefties going after him.. which shows their true colors... and its not about facts but invented propaganda.

Hello again, tom:

Nobody is denying that he HAD chemical weapons.. The question is, did he have them when Curveball SAID he had them.

These were buried in the ground... Who knows how long?

excon

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, Steve:

It's EITHER Bush/Cheney OR the CIA. It can only be ONE or the OTHER. I'm HAPPY to find out the bad guy, or the INEPT guy is the CIA.

I have NO DOG in this fight. I'm NOT here to BLAME anyone. I'm here to find out the TRUTH, so we don't get blindsided by the same people again. What's wrong with the TRUTH???

excon

PS> I guess it could be Barney Franks fault. I didn't think of that.

Personally I think you're just trying to distract from the current coverup.

Obama sold them to Syria... where do you think he got all his money from?

Obama is responsible for Benghazi... and if he had a soul or a conscience he would not be sleeping at night because of it.

Hello again, smoothy:

I don't know 4,000 dead Americans vs. 4 dead Americans... You want to know about the 4, but not the 4,000... Boy, oh boy. Right wing math surely doesn't work.

excon

Liberals aren't capable of understanding...

Again... an attack on an Embassy before you even kill the Embassador and anally rape him... is an act of war...

Sadam Hussien Barrack Hussiens second cousin, was repeatedly violating a cease fire agreement... for a war that never actually ended yet at the time.

Need a contemprory reference... the Korean War... it ended exactly on what date? Right... it didn't because there is a cease fire agreement... just like there was in Iraq.

I don't care if it is 4 or 4000, I do know that Dems vowed to investigate the hell out of Bush but once Obama got in office that all seems to have went away, why is that? Meanwhile, there's a coverup right now and like the media you don't seems to give a damn.

Nobody even got a paper cut during Watergate and look how many decades the lefties have had their panties in a knot about that...