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  • May 10, 2013, 04:32 AM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    go ahead but don't complain when someone blows up your house that is also a form of comment

    For the last millennium and a half that seems to be the Muslims' preferred method of commentary. That and beheading.
  • May 10, 2013, 04:41 AM
    paraclete
    Exactly
  • May 10, 2013, 04:45 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    go ahead but don't complain when someone blows up your house that is also a form of comment

    I don't bow to the towelheads nor to I bow to a religon that worships a pedophile.

    Nor will I ever.

    They aren't going to get one bit more respect from me than they show to the Christions and Jews in their own homelands.
  • May 10, 2013, 04:46 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You are really good at skipping pertinent FACTS!

    Nope, I said he may be scum but tom is right, he's a political prisoner. Funny how so many lefties will jump to defend a Bradley Manning but not a guy in jail for making a film.
  • May 10, 2013, 04:52 AM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    he is in jail becuase he broke the conditions and got caught anything else is perpheral ok he was a convenient smokescreen for a day andthere was useful disinformation or confusion or whatever

    BS they would never had bothered looking for an excuse to jail him if it wasn't for the video . He is a political prisoner.. that's the fact .
  • May 10, 2013, 04:53 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    I don't bow to the towelheads nor to I bow to a religon that worships a pedophile.

    Nor will I ever.

    They aren't going to get one bit more respect from me than they show to the Christions and Jews in their own homelands.

    Very commendable but not very diplomatic. Your President bows to the towelheads at least those with money and oil.

    I have solution for you and it might work, kick out all the towelheads send them back and invite the christians and jews to come and live with you, that way you immediately lessen persecution in the muslim world and avoid a future humanitiarin problem
  • May 10, 2013, 04:58 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    very commendable but not very diplomatic. Your President bows to the towelheads at least those with money and oil.

    I have solution for you and it might work, kick out all the towelheads send them back and invite the christians and jews to come and live with you, that way you immediately lessen persecution in the muslim world and avoid a future humanitiarin problem

    I'm not a Diplomat... so I can speak my mind.

    He's not my president... and he's never convinced me he isn't a Muslim himself, that he was elligible to even run... or that there wasn't enough fraud for him to have stolen the election.

    If I was the King... I would throw out all the Muslims and do exactly that... but I'm not the King.
  • May 10, 2013, 05:41 AM
    excon
    Hello:

    I'm a Jew. I don't like Arabs. I dislike racism worse. Henceforth, if the political discussion on this board DEVOLVES into racist comments, I WILL CALL YOU OUT.

    Stop it NOW while you're ahead!

    excon
  • May 10, 2013, 05:52 AM
    talaniman
    You and smoothy sound like racists to be honest Clete, and that's unfortunate and good luck deporting the objects of your hate because I suspect if it isn't one group, you would find fault with another group that's left until you find yourself alone.

    But maybe that's what you want.
  • May 10, 2013, 06:04 AM
    paraclete
    Yeah alone suits me, my forebares have been here a long time. I would like my country to go back to what it was, a haven in the South Pacific for those Europe didn't want. This was a peaceful place until certain people were allowed to come here
  • May 10, 2013, 06:19 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello:

    I'm a Jew. I don't like Arabs. I dislike racism worse. Henceforth, if the political discussion on this board DEVOLVES into racist comments, I WILL CALL YOU OUT.

    Stop it NOW while you're ahead!

    excon

    If you are jewish you should like the idea of all your people being invited to remove themselves from danger and live in the US but no I expect you want to keep the illusion of Israel going until there is a catclymisic war.. . for your information I was demonstrating to smoothy how ridiculous his ideas are, you can't just pick up a population and move them, otherwise you would have solved that other minority problem long ago
  • May 10, 2013, 06:19 AM
    smoothy
    Islam is a religion you choose to believe in... its not a race you are born into which you have no choice about.

    You can chage your religion.. you can't change your race.

    Disliking Islam is NOT rascism.
  • May 10, 2013, 06:26 AM
    talaniman
    I don't believe in Islam, or Christianity personally, nor any other religion because from the outside looking in all you zealots look and sound the same.
  • May 10, 2013, 06:27 AM
    excon
    Hello again, smoothy:

    Quote:

    Disliking Muslims is NOT rascism.
    You have a serious deficiency when it comes to LANGUAGE. You DON'T seem to understand words.

    Here's the deal. Disliking Muslims is NOT racism. Calling them names IS...

    IF you don't know what I'm talking about, continue your racist ways, and you SOON will.

    Excon
  • May 10, 2013, 06:29 AM
    smoothy
    Only one religion makes a practice of Killing or subjugating others... and in fact calls for it as part of their religion in their religious texts. And that's Islam.
  • May 10, 2013, 06:31 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Islam is a religion you choose to believe in...its not a race you are born into which you have no choice about.

    Disliking Muslims is NOT rascism.

    No it's called sectarianism or just plain bigoted but I have found any mention of the word jew sets Ex off even if the comment is favourable. Ex thinks I'm racist but I have other races in my family. I just don't like troublesome people and any minority can reach a population where they become troublesome. In a way I'm fortunate I come from irish stock and I live in what might be an irish enclave, lots of irish pubs around here. Lots of Indian restaurants too

    So anyway you and I agree on a partial solution to a particular problem however impracticable, Exporting your troubles somewhereelse is never a solution
  • May 10, 2013, 06:34 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:

    You have a serious deficiency when it comes to LANGUAGE. You DON'T seem to understand words.

    Here's the deal. Disliking Muslims is NOT racism. Calling them names IS...

    IF you don't know what I'm talking about, continue your racist ways, and you SOON will.

    excon

    Seriously? You want to go there..

    Look up RACISM in the dictionary... Islam isn't a RACE... calling them names isn't racism.

    Calling a particular ETHNIC group names purely because of their ETHNIC background might be rascism depending on WHAT one says... but one ETHNIC group is not imune for criticisms of their behaviour because they are part of that ethnic group.

    Or are the common attacks made by the left against the right Rascism as well?

    Islamic Troglodytes tried to kill me on 9/11 at the Pentagon over their perverted religion and they damn near succeeded... Hell will freeze over before I bow to them.
  • May 10, 2013, 06:40 AM
    excon
    Hello again, smoothy:

    I'm NOT going to split hairs with you over your noxious words... Say them AGAIN, and I'll be in YOUR FACE like you've NEVER seen me in anybody's face.

    Are we CLEAR?

    excon
  • May 10, 2013, 06:41 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Seriously? you want to go there..

    Look up RACISM in the dictionary.............Islam isn't a RACE...calling them names isn't racism.

    Calling a particular ETHNIC group names purely because of their ETHNIC background might be rascism depending on WHAT one says....but one ETHNIC group is not imune for critisisms of their behaviour because they are part of that ethnic group.

    Or iarethe common attacks made by the left against the right Rascism as well?

    OK Ex is the fashion police he doesn't like you referring to their apparel in a derogatory manner

    So for the sake of peace let us avoid speaking about those followers of a child molesting desert bandit, total ignore that's the way
  • May 10, 2013, 06:42 AM
    talaniman
    Just as Christianity/Judaism evolved from barbarism, cruelty, and exploitation(?), so shall Islam, and that's what all the unrest is really about. Unfortunately you believe what western scholars(?) tells you and have never read and gotten contexts to the passages that are pulled from the Quran.

    I find it amusing that Christians having survived centuries of barbarism now degrade others trying to do the same thing. And the lengths you go justifying your own self superiority.
  • May 10, 2013, 06:46 AM
    smoothy
    How about all your and everyone else's noxious comments directed at conservatives ending... Or are Muslims some special protected class on this site all of a sudden?

    Because if they are... then this site has gone to the dogs...
  • May 10, 2013, 06:46 AM
    tomder55
    Just don't close the thread.. a lot of good contribution gets lost when threads are shut down
  • May 10, 2013, 06:47 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I don't believe in Islam, or Christianity personally, nor any other religion because from the outside looking in all you zealots look and sound the same.

    You think I'm a zealot? Dude, you obviously know little about Christianity.
  • May 10, 2013, 06:48 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Just as Christianity/Judaism evolved from barbarism, cruelty, and exploitation(?), so shall Islam, and that's what all the unrest is really about. Unfortunately you believe what western scholars(?) tells you and have never read and gotten contexts to the passages that are pulled from the Quran.

    I find it amusing that Christians having survived centuries of barbarism now degrade others trying to do the same thing. And the lengths you go justifying your own self superiority.

    I've read and seen enough of the pasages pointed out over the years... It's not just taking someone's word for it.

    They are there in writing for everyone to see. Nobody has to take my or anyone else's word on it. See for yourself.
  • May 10, 2013, 06:49 AM
    excon
    Hello again, smoothy:

    If you understood WORDS, we could talk.

    excon
  • May 10, 2013, 06:51 AM
    excon
    Hello again, tom:

    Quote:

    just don't close the thread
    I can only close threads that I started. But, I wouldn't close it anyway.. I think smoothy gets it. Orrrrr, maybe not.

    Excon
  • May 10, 2013, 06:52 AM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Disliking Muslims is NOT racism. Calling them names IS...

    Hi, ex;

    The only namecalling I see on here was one reference to turbans. The pedophilia, the violence, and the paranoia are all taken directly from the Muslim holy books, the Haditha. The paranoia I've noticed in several Israeli and Jewish commentaries, as well. Is this from the Tanakh or do the religions spawned in that area just have long memories?
  • May 10, 2013, 06:58 AM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post

    I find it amusing that Christians having survived centuries of barbarism now degrade others trying to do the same thing. And the lengths you go justifying your own self superiority.

    I don't see Islam evolving anytime soon, it is full of reversionists. A lot of the centuries of barbarism Christians survived had a muslim barbarian on the other side of the conflict. It wasn't until Christians got their head around crusades should start at home that they freed Europe and they were still fighting in the twentieth century. Now I'm not discounting christian despotism there was a lot of that too, I expect the message didn't really penetrate or was subverted, another story
  • May 10, 2013, 07:03 AM
    excon
    Hello Catsmine:

    Quote:

    The only namecalling I see on here was one reference to turbans.
    Isn't that ENOUGH?? And, it wasn't ONE either, as though that makes a difference... Are you DEFENDING his comments??

    I don't know what's so difficult about distinguishing between talking ABOUT people, and CALLING them names... Truly..

    Excon
  • May 10, 2013, 07:05 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, smoothy:

    If you understood WORDS, we could talk.

    excon

    I understand words very well... and I Understand the roots of words as well. I might not be an English Major but I am a college graduate. And while I am not in the Diplomat Corps and never have been... I've spent a lot of time with Foreign Diplomats and officials over the last 27 years, some of them very high ranking..

    I don't subscribe to the Clintonian method of redifining words like "is" or what is actually "sex" to suit the moment..
  • May 10, 2013, 07:45 AM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello Catsmine:

    Isn't that ENOUGH??? And, it wasn't ONE either, as though that makes a difference... Are you DEFENDING his comments???

    I dunno what's so difficult about distinguishing between talking ABOUT people, and CALLING them names... Truly..

    excon

    Not a big fan of racism myself, but cultural references don't really qualify in my book. Some semites wear towels around their heads, true. Some hindis do too. Some of each don't.
  • May 10, 2013, 08:04 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    I dunno what's so difficult about distinguishing between talking ABOUT people, and CALLING them names... Truly..

    excon

    After all these years of conservatives being called racists for daring to criticize Obama's policies or saying the word "golf" you would ask that question?
  • May 10, 2013, 08:10 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, you can't distinguish between golf and racism either... Figures..

    excon

    PS> Ok, I've got a minute... Again, this calls for some DISTINCTIONS... Golf is not the issue. Being called LAZY is. Romney spokesperson, Sununu flat out called him LAZY. You may not know that black people have been accused of being shiftless and LAZY for as long as they've been around... To equate black people to laziness is racism personified...

    Now, I don't know the particular circumstance you're speaking about, but if I called you a racist, it had NOTHING to do with golf.
  • May 10, 2013, 08:38 AM
    speechlesstx
    I know the difference between real racism and manufactured bullsh*t, which comprises the vast majority of liberal charges of racism AND everything this administration has said on the Benghazi attack. .
  • May 10, 2013, 09:26 AM
    Catsmine
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Being called LAZY is. Romney spokesperson, Sununu flat out called him LAZY. You may not know that black people have been accused of being shiftless and LAZY for as long as they've been around... To equate black people to laziness is racism personified...

    This is the perfect example of liberal racism. Calling an individual on a perceived character flaw is somehow transmogrified into insulting a group simply because the individual is tangentially related to that group. Isn't that the EXACT process used to build stereotypes?

    Whether Mr. Obama is lazy or is just enjoying the perks of his office is kind of beside the point, now that pointing out that he takes a lot of time off is called racism.
  • May 10, 2013, 09:34 AM
    tomder55
    To bring this discussion home.. . On the night of 9-11-12 ;while American embassies around the ummah were under siege (some ended with flying al Qaeda flags before the day was through) ;and an American ambassador was being assassinated by a jihadist attack ;the situtation room of the White House was unoccupied . WE know for a fact that the President of the United States ;the Commander in Chief ,the Chief Executive of the United States took a total of ONE phone call on the crisis ,and then headed off to bed while the crisis was on-going .
    I'll leave it to others to assign motives ;but that was the way it was on the night of 9-11-12 .
  • May 10, 2013, 10:23 AM
    smoothy
    And the left went after Bush on 9/11 when he finished what he was doing the next roughly 14 minutes with the children he was with... to not scare them.

    He didn't blow it off and go to bed.

    Never mind this was before we figured out it wasn't an accident. Unlike Benghazi where they knew immediately... Hell, I knew it had nothing to do with a you-tube video in a land most people don't have running water much less internet access to see it.
  • May 10, 2013, 11:03 AM
    NeedKarma
    Bush did a really good job protecting you didn't he? 3,000 dead americans later... I suspect people may have had an issue with that. Can you blame them?
  • May 10, 2013, 11:10 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Bush did a really good job protecting you didn't he? 3,000 dead americans later ... I suspect people may have had an issue with that. Can you blame them?

    I see you are still walking and breathing.

    Nobody protected me... I am still breathing ONLY because I was tired, hungry and crany that morning and didn't want to hang around like my Customers were asking me to, so their shift relief would know everything I knew.

    Of course a cold hearted Lefty like you wouldn't give a damn that both of them died not long after I left...

    Their names are engraved on the Memorial at the site along with many others.. I didn't know how many others that were there that night died... I only remembered or knew the names of two of them.
  • May 10, 2013, 11:17 AM
    NeedKarma
    Nothing you wrote has any bearing on what I wrote yet you quoted me. It's like you have an on-going monologue regardless on the topic.

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