Unlike some I know what I'm talking about here and you're still moving the goalposts, from God was controlling him to it was His will. It's all a sideshow, stick to the facts in evidence that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
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Unlike some I know what I'm talking about here and you're still moving the goalposts, from God was controlling him to it was His will. It's all a sideshow, stick to the facts in evidence that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I heard 6'1" .....vs Zimmermans 5'8" I'm a lot bigger guy than Zimmerman at 5"11 and 220 lbs... and I'm good shape for my age.. but not on the same level as a 17 year old athlete (who is actually in his prime) and neither was Zimmerman...Quote:
Originally Posted by earl237
Zimmerman had one major advantage over Martin.Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
Well that was Martins mistake then... he should have considered that before he assaulted him. If you gamble with your life... then you take the risk of losing it. He was man enough to pull that stunt.. he's man enough to pay the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Even if he lived... he was old enough to be charged as an adult.
You never know WHO is carrying... man OR woman. And I've known women who were some VERY good shots.
I qualified as Sharpshooter on the range and they would beat me hands down.
Are you afraid of white boys the same size that played football? I suspect so. But your point is taken about fear, and its cousin hate, and being powerless.
I didn't watch the trial. Did it come out what had been said when Zimmermann came up behind Martin? Was Zimmermann confrontational or warm and fuzzy? Did he say who he was?Quote:
Originally Posted by smoothy
If you are being assaulted on the street by someone you don't know... you have every legal right to assume the worst... and after the assault starts.. you have the legal right to take ANY and all steps needed to protect yourself... including lethal force.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Nobody shot anyone from a half a block away... he shot him once after he had his head pounded into the concrete a couple times... at point blank range when he was flat on his back being beaten with the thug sitting on top of him.
You can be assured they were not discussing the merits of French vs. Italian wines.
If I was Zimmerman... I would not have waited that long to shoot him... and wouldn't have stopped at a single shot.
And I can make that claim because I've been in a similar situation... only it was two guys it was daytime and I had witnesses. And one of them had to have seen his life flash before his eyes because he was a second or two away from having his skull split open like a watermelon. ( I was pulled off as I was starting to make the last two handed swing at his head) He spent the next month in intensive care as it was.
I didn't have a gun but I was thrown a steel bar that I used.
So I've been where Zimmerman's been. Not playing armchair quarterback after the game was over.
No it wasn't a pleasant experience... and I'd be happy if I never had to repeat it too... but I will never lie down if I'm being attacked... its against my nature. I'm the kind of person who would fight to the bitter end. However it turned out.
No he did not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
It came out where Martin came up behind Zimmerman and attacked... police evidence backed that up... eye witnesses back up Trayvon was the one assaulting Zimmerman... Martins girlfriend told the world her and Trayvon were both racists with the "Crazy white cracker comment" and how he was going to teach him a lesson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Trayvons phone was full of texts about numerous previous fights he was recently in... and those WILL be part of any future trial... as they can't be kept out of evidence then.
No he was returning to his car when he was attatcked by Treyvon. Treyvon was afraid he was going to be raped by zimmerman so he threw the first punch. He had to teach that homo a lesson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
What was the conversation when Z came up behind him?Quote:
Originally Posted by cdad
There wasn't one. Treyvon ran and hid like his girlfriend told him to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Video: Rachel Jeantel (Trayvon's Girlfriend) Talks To Piers Morgan About Thugs, N****s, And Trayvon Martin!Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
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Originally Posted by cdad
Part 2
Rachel Jeantel Piers Morgan Interview Part 2 - YouTube
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Originally Posted by cdad
Part 3
EPIC!! Rachel Jeantel Explains The Difference Between 'N*gga' And 'N*gger' To Piers Morgan HAHA!! - YouTube
Oh gawd... what a moron... makes you really think about what kind of guy would even date her... What a prize...
If anyone ever catches me with someone like that... PLEASE cut my wiener off.
Here is the "racist " Zimmerman in action . 2010 the son of a Sanford police official attacked a homeless black man named Sherman Ware without provocation.
Cops Son Caught On Camera Punching Homeless Man - YouTube
The Sanford police were sweeping the incident under the rug and very little was done about it .Zimmerman and his wife started a “Justice for Sherman Ware” campaign. Zimmerman organized the black community to get results and justice for Sherman Ware.
According to Martins nigga girl friend I can now call you a nigga 'cause you are male what sort of crap is this and what is the correct term for a negro woman?Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
All I have to say about Rachel Jeantel is that the idiots in the media are trying to create a celeb out of this unfortunate failure of liberal education.
Are there any successes of conservative education?
Yes... the best educations are from conservative institutions, but what has been an abject failure everywhere is Liberal education... You just can't teach a stump much of anything.
And you see that as many times as the facts have been presented here they keep returning to the same concocted stories.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdad
Yep, had to get that "creepy a$$ cracka".Quote:
Treyvon was afraid he was going to be raped by zimmerman so he threw the first punch. He had to teach that homo a lesson.
Hillsdale College - HomeQuote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
I don't think they offer any degrees in pole dancing.
Treyvon and that dumb ugly cow he called a girlfriend are Both racists of the worst kind. As proven by their own words, under oath.. on the stand.
What successful people can you point me to who are products of a conservative education.Quote:
Hillsdale College - Home
You seem to be under the impression that education has always been liberal/progressive as defined today. And as I've pointed out numerous times during the contraceptive mandate discussion education, as with medicine, was largely a product of the church in this country, schools were not run by flaming libs so I believe I can safely say a great many people throughout this country's history have been the product of 'conservative' education as opposed to today's liberal education.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
You really should read about Hillsdale, it has quite a history.
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Shortly after its founding, Hillsdale, as a part of the anti-slavery Freewill Baptist denomination, emerged as an early agitator for the abolition of slavery and for the education of black students.[16] Black students were admitted immediately after the college's 1844 founding, and the College became the second[3] school in the nation to grant four-year liberal arts degrees to women.[17]
Many Hillsdale students served in the Union army during the American Civil War. A higher percentage of Hillsdale students enlisted than from any other non-military college.[18] Of the more than 400 men serving, half became officers. During the conflict, four Hillsdale students received the Medal of Honor, three became generals, and many more served as regimental commanders. For the more than sixty that died, a monument was erected in their honor, which now stands between Kendall and Lane Halls.[3]
Non-discrimination policy
Hillsdale's non-discrimination policy remained controversial throughout its history. For example, Hillsdale's football team refused to play in the 1956 Tangerine Bowl in Florida when the governing committee of the Bowl would not allow the team's black players to join the white players on the field; the committee then selected Juniata College instead.[19][20]
Hillsdale College's policies came under fire in the 1970s following the enactment of affirmative action legislation. Because some students were receiving federal loans, the federal government asserted that it could require Hillsdale College to submit Assurance of Compliance forms mandated by Title IX as a condition of the continued receipt of federal financial assistance by two hundred Hillsdale students. Hillsdale refused compliance on the grounds that its own policies were less discriminatory than those the federal government would impose. This ongoing dispute with the Department of Health, Education, and Welfare (HEW) began to intensify in 1979 when the College filed a petition for judicial review in the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit, asking the court to overturn a previous decision by the Reviewing Authority, Office of Civil Rights of HEW. In December 1982, the Sixth Circuit upheld Hillsdale's refusal to sign the compliance forms but also ruled that government aid to individual students could be terminated without a finding that a college actually discriminated.
In February 1984, in a related case, Grove City College v. Bell, the Supreme Court required every college or university to fulfill federal requirements – past and future requirements – if its students received federal aid. As a result of the court's decision, Hillsdale withdrew from all federal assistance beginning with the 1984–85 academic year; Grove City College, the defendant in that case, followed Hillsdale's lead four years later.
Beginning with the 2007–2008 academic year, Hillsdale also stopped accepting Michigan state assistance, instead matching any funds that a student would have received from the state with its own aid.[21] Since 2007, Hillsdale's entire operating budget of the college, including scholarships, comes from private funding and endowments.
Hillsdale's feud with the federal government is ongoing; in its 2010 "Resolution Against Federal Interference," it accuses both Congress and the Obama administration of appearing, "even more than the worst of their predecessors, bent on extending federal control over American higher education and other areas of American life."[22]
List of Hillsdale College alumni - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaQuote:
Edmund Burke Fairfield was the college's second president, leading Hillsdale from 1848 to 1869.[33] During his presidency, he helped found the Republican Party.[34]
James Calder was the college's third president, serving from 1869 to 1871. He later resigned to serve as president of the Pennsylvania State University.[33] He was succeeded by DeWitt Clinton Durgin, a graduate of Union College, from 1874–1878,[33] and George F. Mosher, who served from 1886 to 1901.[33][35]
Joseph William Mauck was the sixth president, leading from 1902 to 1922.[33] He was an outspoken advocate for women's suffrage.[36][37] He was succeeded by William Gear Spencer from 1922 to 1932,[33] who departed to lead Franklin College.[38]
But go ahead, keep trying to mock conservative education.
The 1800's and 1902 - good to know. Thanks.
Me me me! 1950s and early 1960s -- Palmer Penmanship, memorizing times tables, memorizing Bible verses/Psalms/classic poems, art and music appreciation lessons, practical classes on managing your checking account/checkbook, etc. -- and that was elementary school to 8th grade.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
4/5th of those are taught at all schools (or so I hope). Though I wish more schools taught basic personal finance skills; no problem though, that's my job as a parent.
For someone whose job it is to make sure links are in the right places you sure do have a hard time understanding how they work. Click the second link, not the one 'about' Hillsdale which I excerpted. You know, the one that says "List of Hillsdale College alumni."Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
P.S.Success is timeless and has nothing to do with fame.
You won't see this one on the news... From the floor of the House of Representatives.
Bridenstine Questions President's Leadership - YouTube
Guess who got their panties in a knot at 1600 Pennsylvania avenue that night.
Hello again, smoothy:
What? That's NEW?Quote:
You won't see this one on the news... From the floor of the House of Representatives.
Bwa, ha ha ha ha.
Excon
Shows there are polititians with the balls to tell OWEbama what they think of him, Joe the Joke, and Eric Heldem too tight... without mincing words.
More pandering to the right wing loony fringe. Its job security.
Owebama does that every time he gets in front of a camera.. and all the democrats get on their knees and prostrate themsleves like Muslims praying to Allah.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
THere was not one single word he said in that video that was even the slightest bit incorrect... it was 100% factual and the lefties can't disprove any of it.
Hello again, smoothy:
I don't know. This right winger didn't break any new ground, and didn't use new language.. I've heard the same thing from them day in and day out, since Obama was elected.Quote:
without mincing words.
Excon
Hello again, smoothy:
The problem is, if you want to get RID of Obama, it's YOU GUYS that have to prove it, and you can't, can't, can't. If you COULD, you WOULD!Quote:
it was 100% factual and the lefties can't disprove any of it.
Excon
We have... Owebama Butt buddy Eric is preventing any investigations...Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
However these crimes don't have a statute of limitations... and both their days in office are limited. Biden will just end up wearing a diaper in a nursing home...
Hello smoothy:
Nahhhh... That ain't the way things work... Asking the executive branch to investigate itself isn't the thing to do... In this great nation of ours, the founders gave each branch of government a check on the other. One of those checks is the oversight of the executive BY the congress... Certainly, you know this.Quote:
We have... Owebama Butt buddy Eric is preventing any investigations...
Now, we've got a Republican controlled congress. They have the POWER to investigate. They have the WILL to investigate. They have the POWER to subpoena witnesses, and they have the POWER to put them in jail if they DON'T cooperate. They only thing they DON'T have, is PROOF of wrongdoing!!
So, Daryl Issa, like you, throws up his hands and snivels. Now, I KNOW why he won't investigate, and you do too.. It's because there's NOTHING there... IF there was, you'd grab it. You surly would. You and Issa HATE Obama soooo much, that you'd grab on to ANYTHING that would get rid of him...
But, you don't.. Because you can't.
Excon
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