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She 12, not 13, and she just started getting her periods. She's been raped, is pregnant, was horribly shamed and physically damaged, and probably has not much idea of what's going on inside her body that's too small for a six-pound baby. Her friends shun her. She lies on her bed and cries all day. When it's time to deliver, she has to have a c-section. She hates this baby with every fiber of her being.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Now, let's talk about the future of the baby....
So let's compound a horrendous situation by killing her baby and giving her reason to feel guilty the rest of her life? Once your exagerrations are out of the way, I'll just go back to what I said before. I would listen to what a qualified doctor says, and not a pro-abortion liberal.Quote:
She's been raped, is pregnant, was horribly shamed and physically damaged, and probably has not much idea of what's going on inside her body that's too small for a six-pound baby. Her friends shun her. She lies on her bed and cries all day. When it's time to deliver, she has to have a c-section. She hates this baby with every fiber of her being.
What happened to all those pro-abortion scriptures you were going to give us, and your answer to the dilemma of the children separated from parents who have gone missing?
It's not her baby. She didn't want it then or now.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
So a child that is not wanted is ripe for killing? Got it.
How would you possibly know what that girl would think years down the road or what she wants now? "She didn't want it then or now."
In the meantime, we continue to wait for those scriptures where God "commanded" that abortion take place, and also your solution for those isolated children that you said you would post today.
Every time she looks at that child, she remembers the rape.Quote:
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Several friends over the years have been raped and impregnated.Quote:
How would you possibly know what that girl would think years down the road or what she wants now? "She didn't want it then or now."
Here's one:Quote:
In the meantime, we continue to wait for those scriptures where God "commanded" that abortion take place
Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. -- Hosea 13:16
Oh yeah. That's a real endorsement of abortion. Hosea prophecies what the wicked will do, and you agree with it? Sure you want to go with that?Quote:
Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up. -- Hosea 13:16
Why not just acknowledge that God never commands abortion? Wouldn't that be more honest??? But instead, you try to portray, "women with child shall be ripped up" as some endorsement of abortion. That's pretty wild. Not quite as wild as your contention that Paul was a homosexual, but pretty close.
You have no idea what she remembers.Quote:
Every time she looks at that child, she remembers the rape.
No, God's people were commanded to kill even pregnant women and their unborn babiesQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Surely you jest.Quote:
You have no idea what she remembers.
No, they weren't. Read more carefully. That was a passage AGAINST God's people, a prophecy of judgement. And to call that an endorsement of abortion is really an outrage. You are stretching BIG TIME. You have nothing. It's as completely absurd as contending that God was endorsing child murder in that passage.Quote:
No, God's people were commanded to kill even pregnant women and their unborn babies
"The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God."
It's like I have said before. It's so sad to see a professing Christian coming out all in for abortion.
More liberal theology, they use the word to justify anything
Yep. It's the difference between the Bible informing my worldview, or my worldview informing the Bible.Quote:
More liberal theology, they use the word to justify anything
Methinks thou must read that passage more carefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Oh stop. You're embarrassing yourself. Admit your mistake and move on.Quote:
Methinks thou must read that passage more carefully.
Do you know what Samaria was and who its god was?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Samaria was another name for the ten northern tribes. They basically never served the true God, and yet He continually sent prophets to warn them. Hosea was one of them. If you will read 14:1&2 you will see what you have missed. The passage you quoted was very plainly a prophecy against them. To suggest it is a command to abort children would be laughable if it wasn’t so sickening. Assyria would be the invading army. In those days, it was not good to be overrun by the Assyrians.
Is Samaria related to Samaritan as in the parable?
Indeed it is. Well done, oh thou theologian! 8D
Have a good day today. Go to church.
I'm a little worried about you. We haven't smacked each other upside the head in a few days. Are you off your feed???
Endorsing? No. Commanding? Yes. What a gentle, loving God...Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Hosea 13:16 Samaria will be held guilty, For she has rebelled against her God. They will fall by the sword, Their little ones will be dashed in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open.
Complete absurdity and total lack of knowledge of even basic semantics. It was not endorsed. It was not commanded. It was prophesied. And murdering a woman and her child by ripping open her belly is not abortion. You are so desperate to justify abortion, I actually somewhat feel sorry for you. And your snarky comment about a gentle, loving God reveals a lot about your faith.Quote:
Endorsing? No. Commanding? Yes. What a gentle, loving God...
Hosea 13:16 Samaria will be held guilty, For she has rebelled against her God. They will fall by the sword, Their little ones will be dashed in pieces, And their pregnant women will be ripped open.
How many other times throughout the OT did God command the Israelites to kill? and rip unborn babies from their mothers? Certainly an all-powerful God could have come up with a better solution. Maybe the Israelites had to justify their warlike actions and say "God made us do it."Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
The Bible has its God ripping open the bellies of pregnant women as punishment for rebellion. Abortion has a pregnancy terminated under the compassionate care of modern medicine. Who's the greater monster? God or the doctor who performs the abortion?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wondergirl
Evangelists/fundamentalists find themselves backed into a corner by the Biblical contradictions - the God who slaughters innocents and the son of that God who says to love your enemy. Which is it?
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