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  • Jul 23, 2019, 02:35 PM
    tomder55
    one of the 4 horsewomen of the apocalypse has upped the ante ;saying the minimum wage should be $20 /hr . WOW ! What will Bernie's staffers do now !
    https://www.newsweek.com/rashida-tla...not-15-1450607


    This week at the Dems debates ....."ok ,a show of hands . How many of you agree that the minimum wage should be $20/hr ? "

    omg I can't wait ! This will be more entertaining than Mueller's dodging and weaving ,bordering on contempt of Congress.
  • Jul 23, 2019, 02:42 PM
    jlisenbe
    Why not? If 15 is good, then wouldn't 20 be even better? For that matter, what is wrong is 30 or 40?

    Tomder, I think the dems have really discovered something here!! We can all be millionaires if we just raise the minimum wage high enough.
  • Jul 23, 2019, 02:59 PM
    talaniman
    @JL
    That was the last election and most of us have moved on to the next one, and DUMP DUFUS is the dem mantra NOW!
    @TOM
    $20 bucks sounds great! Rich guys would still be rich and poor folks would pay more taxes. WIN/WIN.
  • Jul 23, 2019, 03:39 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:
    $20 bucks sounds great! Rich guys would still be rich and poor folks would pay more taxes. WIN/WIN.
    Why not thirty? Why not forty?
  • Jul 23, 2019, 03:59 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    He said he would like to see Trump voted out which would be a "vote for justice." Now if a person had not voted for Trump, they would have voted for...guess who??? Wouldn't you think it was a pretty clear implication that voting for HC would have been a vote for justice?
    Has your doctor given you the Clock Draw Test lately -- or perhaps the 6CIT (6-item Cognitive Impairment Test)?

    1. What year is it?
    2. What month is it now?
    3. Please repeat this name and address after me:
    John Brown, 42 Market Street, Bristol
    (Say three times. Tell them they need to remember this name and address for later.)
    4. Without looking at your watch, say what the time is.
    5. Count aloud backwards from 20 to 1.
    6. Say the months of the year in reverse order.
    7. Repeat the name and address that you were asked to remember earlier on in the test.
  • Jul 23, 2019, 04:24 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Why not thirty? Why not forty?
    Well if $20 works well WHY NOT? What has a DECADES of $7.25 gotten us? Let's be clear though the federal minimum wage is the lowest a worker can get, but STATES can set there own, and states are doing exactly that.

    https://www.thebalancecareers.com/pr...m-wage-2062521

    I say we just see what the new minimums across the country bring and let's go from there. I realize the affects on not so rich employers may be of critical concerns.
  • Jul 23, 2019, 04:43 PM
    tomder55
    add onto that the free guaranteed income,the free college education ;the free health care for all ;even the thousands of illegals pouring into the country ,
    .They are not socialists .they are the Gimmee party of America . Sounds like a winning platform to me .
  • Jul 23, 2019, 04:47 PM
    paraclete
    you are on you way to becoming the first money free economy, everything free
  • Jul 23, 2019, 04:52 PM
    jlisenbe
    You still haven't explained why we would not raise it to thirty an hour.

    Quote:
    Has your doctor given you the Clock Draw Test lately -- or perhaps the 6CIT (6-item Cognitive Impairment Test)?
    Oh aren't you ashamed of yourself for shaming me like that? Like I have said many times. Liberals are forever wanting to be sensitive about what is said about them, but not so much for what is said by them.

    But I'll take those tests if you'll take the plain as the nose on your face inference test.
  • Jul 23, 2019, 05:03 PM
    talaniman
    Oh come on guys, the electoral math doesn't favor such an agenda, nor would repubs, even with minority numbers and no WH. You guys are determined to play chicken little during silly season. Go ahead though I am amused.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    You still haven't explained why we would not raise it to thirty an hour.
    Yes I did but you wouldn't understand my pragmatism, or why rush too far, too fast. Did you miss this?

    Quote:
    I say we just see what the new minimums across the country bring and let's go from there. I realize the affects on not so rich employers may be of critical concerns.
  • Jul 23, 2019, 05:05 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Oh aren't you ashamed of yourself for shaming me like that? Like I have said many times. Liberals are forever wanting to be sensitive about what is said about them, but not so much for what is said by them.

    But I'll take those tests if you'll take the plain as the nose on your face inference test.
    I was just giving you back a bit of the "fun" you dish out at me.

    Sure -- I LOVE tests!
  • Jul 23, 2019, 05:10 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:
    Yes I did but you wouldn't understand my pragmatism, or why rush too far, too fast. Did you miss this?

    I say we just see what the new minimums across the country bring and let's go from there. I realize the affects on not so rich employers may be of critical concerns.
    Well, at least you understand the concept of unintended consequences, even if you don't highly value the concept of personal liberty.

    If we go to twenty an hour, what effect on prices do you think that will have? What effect on the employment of low skill workers will it have? What effect on teen jobs will it have? What effect on entry-level positions will it have? What effect will it have on small businesses that are already struggling? How many millions of jobs will it cost?

    Quote:
    I was just giving you back a bit of the "fun" you dish out at me.
    How convenient for you.

    Quote:
    Sure -- I LOVE tests!
    Well, you'll need a lot of prep for this one. You don't appear to be ready....Kidding!!
  • Jul 23, 2019, 06:28 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:
    why rush too far, too fast. Did you miss this?
    Well that attitude left the Dems years ago . When Bernie Sanders is mainstream or not even the most radical socialist alternative then you know your lurch left has gone well past Fabianism principles .
  • Jul 23, 2019, 07:10 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Well, you'll need a lot of prep for this one. You don't appear to be ready....Kidding!!
    May I listen to doo wop while I take the test?
  • Jul 23, 2019, 07:11 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:
    May I listen to doo wop while I take the test?
    I have no idea what "doo wop" is, but if it will help, then go for it.
  • Jul 23, 2019, 07:24 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Well that attitude left the Dems years ago . When Bernie Sanders is mainstream or not even the most radical socialist alternative then you know your lurch left has gone well past Fabianism principles .
    Fabianism, well I haven't heard that one for a while, we will file that one with the
    Ashkenazi
    jews shall we and while we are at it international communism is rampant
  • Jul 23, 2019, 07:37 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I have no idea what "doo wop" is, but if it will help, then go for it.
    I thought you were over 60. Here's a good example:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJcGi4-n_Yw
  • Jul 23, 2019, 07:55 PM
    Athos
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I thought you were over 60. Here's a good example:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VJcGi4-n_Yw

    I know what it is. Fantastic selection!
  • Jul 23, 2019, 08:55 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Athos View Post
    I know what it is. Fantastic selection!
    Wanna dance, Athos?
  • Jul 23, 2019, 10:23 PM
    Athos
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Wanna dance, Athos?
    Sure. Do you know the Stomp Trump?

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