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  • Feb 13, 2013, 10:29 AM
    talaniman
    Why do you guys want a working family at Walmart to be punished for having a low paying job?

    Why do you guys keep emphasizing the failures in the energy departments programs and completely ignore the successes? I sent you the link ages ago. An 85% success rate ain't failure my friend.

    Admit it, you don't want smart effective government, you want no government, except if it benefits YOU. When it doesn't you holler about it. But in fact it does work for those that learn to navigate the process. That's not easy, I admit it, but millions do it.

    If you are going to be the party of gloom, and doom, at least stay out of the way of those that have hope.
  • Feb 13, 2013, 11:02 AM
    tomder55
    This was predictable..
    Quote:

    As the state moves to expand healthcare coverage to millions of Californians under President Obama's healthcare law, it faces a major obstacle: There aren't enough doctors to treat a crush of newly insured patients.

    Some lawmakers want to fill the gap by redefining who can provide healthcare.
    LA Times

    Maybe we can put some of the illegal aliens in doctors smocks... doing the jobs Americans won't do.
  • Feb 13, 2013, 11:07 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Why do you guys want a working family at Walmart to be punished for having a low paying job?

    Dude, who is forcing anyone to work at Wal-Mart?

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    Why do you guys keep emphasizing the failures in the energy departments programs and completely ignore the successes? I sent you the link ages ago. An 85% success rate ain't failure my friend.
    Because it isn't the government's role to pick winners and losers. You guuys spew all those platitudes about fairness but how fair is it for a guy trying to start up a small business with an idea to get nothing while a friend of POTUS gets a few hundred million?

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    Admit it, you don't want smart effective government, you want no government, except if it benefits YOU. When it doesn't you holler about it. But in fact it does work for those that learn to navigate the process. That's not easy, I admit it, but millions do it.
    Admit it, you don't know what smart, effective government is and we shouldn't have to "navigate the process "

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    If you are going to be the party of gloom, and doom, at least stay out of the way of those that have hope.
    We're not the ones telling Americans they don't stand a chance without Obama's benevolent care.
  • Feb 13, 2013, 11:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    Some lawmakers want to fill the gap by redefining who can provide healthcare.

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    maybe we can put some of the illegal aliens in doctors smocks... doing the jobs Americans won't do.
    Probably won't notice a drop-off in care once Obamacare kicks in fully.
  • Feb 13, 2013, 12:15 PM
    speechlesstx
    Speaking of whining about Obama's bad investments...

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    Inspector general: Grant money for battery company not ‘managed effectively’

    The Energy Department gave $150 million in economic recovery act funds to a battery company, LG Chem Michigan, which has yet to manufacture cells used in any vehicles sold to the public and whose workers passed time watching movies, playing board, card and video games or volunteering for animal shelters and community groups.

    Those are the conclusions of a report released Wednesday morning by Energy Department Inspector General Gregory H. Friedman, who said that the grant to a subsidiary of South Korean giant LG “had not been managed effectively.”
    Now see that's the problem with Wal-Mart jobs, they just aren't paying people enough to play Spades and video games on taxpayer dollars while providing zero goods and services.
  • Feb 13, 2013, 12:32 PM
    talaniman
    Quote:
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    Originally Posted by talaniman
    Why do you guys want a working family at Walmart to be punished for having a low paying job?
    Dude, who is forcing anyone to work at Wal-Mart?

    Dude they want to work, not a lot of options for work is there?

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    Why do you guys keep emphasizing the failures in the energy departments programs and completely ignore the successes? I sent you the link ages ago. An 85% success rate ain't failure my friend.
    Because it isn't the government's role to pick winners and losers. You guuys spew all those platitudes about fairness but how fair is it for a guy trying to start up a small business with an idea to get nothing while a friend of POTUS gets a few hundred million?

    Its the governments role to help small business thru programs that have had great results. Go ahead try a bank loan and let me know how that works for you. Last I checked it wasn't just friends that get in on these programs and take years to get backing, friend or foe. Even solyndra wa already in the process long before Obama got to be president

    PolitiFact | Did the program that funded the Solyndra loan start under George W. Bush? David Plouffe says so

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    Republicans, including Bush, emphasized the program's benefits for nuclear energy and biofuels. The president touted the new energy law in his 2007 State of the Union address. His energy secretary, Samuel Bodman, regularly mentioned the loan guarantees in speeches on renewable energy. The Energy Department issued its final rules for the program in 2007, along with a list of 16 companies that made the cut for to apply for its first round of awards, and Solyndra was among them.

    House Republicans investigating Solyndra have claimed that the Bush administration ultimately rejected the Solyndra loan, but that's not quite the case. Democrats on the House Energy and Commerce Committee and news media point out that Bush energy officials wanted to get the loan closed on their way out the door — it was listed as the first of their "three highest priorities through January 15." (Obama took office Jan. 20, 2009.) But the Energy Department's credit committee held things up for more analysis.
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    Admit it, you don't want smart effective government, you want no government, except if it benefits YOU. When it doesn't you holler about it. But in fact it does work for those that learn to navigate the process. That's not easy, I admit it, but millions do it.
    Admit it, you don't know what smart, effective government is and we shouldn't have to "navigate the process "

    You should at least know the process and procedure. There is always a process and procedure to know and follow. Try fixing a wall outlet without shutting of the power, and let me know how it went

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    If you are going to be the party of gloom, and doom, at least stay out of the way of those that have hope.
    We're not the ones telling Americans they don't stand a chance without Obama's benevolent care.

    Thats not what we are saying either, we say stop ering with the right and move the country forward and give all of us a chance not just the rich guys who sucked all the money out of the system.
  • Feb 13, 2013, 12:42 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Thats not what we are saying either, we say stop ering with the right and move the country forward and give all of us a chance not just the rich guys who sucked all the money out of the system.

    "You didn't build that," Julia etc.Yeah, that's exactly what he's saying along with this broken record that keeps skipping at the part about rich guys. And the irony is you still can't see your guys are just as rich and far up corporate America's a$$ as anyone.
  • Feb 13, 2013, 12:47 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    And the irony is you still can't see your guys are just as rich and far up corporate America's a$$ as anyone.
    That's correct... for both parties. Unless you enact some reform for your politicians it'll never change.
  • Feb 13, 2013, 01:01 PM
    speechlesstx
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    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    That's correct...for both parties. Unless you enact some reform for your politicians it'll never change.

    OK, then let's stop this charade of Democrat nobility on that point.
  • Feb 13, 2013, 01:31 PM
    NeedKarma
    If you stop the republican nobility. Deal.
  • Feb 13, 2013, 02:45 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    If you stop the republican nobility. Deal.

    That might be relevant if I had ever started.
  • Feb 13, 2013, 03:04 PM
    NeedKarma
    I get it - your sh!t don't stink either, right? <sigh>
  • Feb 13, 2013, 03:12 PM
    speechlesstx
    USA Today asked for social media response to SOTU and one word came up most often, "screwed."

    CNN on the other hand thinks Rubio is screwed for needing a drink of water.

    http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDA64IpCAAAV1rw.jpg


    Personally I thought Boehner blowing his nose and Biden scratching his neck behind Zero was more interesting.That and McCain's Shamnesty Shake.


    http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net...j80rTuiO0mBPM_
  • Feb 13, 2013, 03:38 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post

    Is he laughing or crying? Who's the disinterested dude on the left?
  • Feb 13, 2013, 04:01 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I get it - your sh!t don't stink either, right?. <sigh>

    Dude, you never know when to quit do you?
  • Feb 13, 2013, 05:20 PM
    tomder55
    McCain looked orgasmic when Zero started talking illegal alien shamnesty
  • Feb 13, 2013, 08:37 PM
    paraclete
    Who's the republican lackey editing the posts?
  • Feb 14, 2013, 05:57 AM
    tomder55
    http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...OqjhaIGhqYKRQw
    http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...3Ng_o9B7pZwFXg
  • Feb 14, 2013, 01:37 PM
    paraclete
    So people need water, and watergate has already been used
  • Feb 14, 2013, 01:39 PM
    Wondergirl
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    Originally Posted by paraclete View Post
    So people need water, and watergate has already been used

    Speechifying is thirsty work!

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