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  • Dec 28, 2012, 11:24 AM
    talaniman
    Well what do you expect the dems to do when you guys act so crazy? The OMB thinks your ideas are crazy too! They have said so. Why don't you guys admit our ideas are workig despite the noise and obstructions from the right?

    You guys have CREATED one crisis after another.
  • Dec 28, 2012, 11:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    You guys have CREATED one crisis after another.

    Still insisting on living in 1984, eh?
  • Dec 28, 2012, 11:53 AM
    tomder55
    Still working in that spirit of compromise.

    If it makes you happy ,I don't blame the President . He should've stayed in Hawaii . He did his job .He proposed a budget. The House passed a budget . The deadlock is the fault of the do nothing Senate.

    Why don't you admit how fond you are of the Bush tax cuts ?
  • Dec 28, 2012, 12:23 PM
    talaniman
    My fondness isn't the problem, it's the rich guys fondness for MO" MONEY on top of what they have that breaks the capitalist business model and chokes circulation of a dollar. These are having global consequences that even rich guys are starting to feel.

    Don't worry,wall street will holler soon, louder than you guys do and about a different issue than you are hollering about.

    PS, nobody liked the budget you guys proposed, and that's why Romney lost. Like I said you guys say NO, but you can't stand when NO is said to you, like in the last election. If Obama can't have a mandate and he won ,then what logic gives you one? Stop patting yourselves on the back, those were the lousiest budget bills from the house in HISTORY.No amount of spin changes that.
  • Dec 28, 2012, 01:06 PM
    speechlesstx
    At least they did something as opposed to NOTHING. For over 3 years - NOTHING.
  • Dec 28, 2012, 01:19 PM
    talaniman
    If that's what you want to call your right wing antics. Go ahead.
  • Dec 28, 2012, 01:34 PM
    excon
    Hello again:

    Quote:

    The deadlock is the fault of the do nothing Senate.
    That may or may NOT be true... But, the public thinks it's the Republicans fault. And, it's going to cost 'em.

    I don't know why this is such a surprise. The polls reveal it. Oh, that's right. Polls that say ANYTHING negative about Republicans are NOT to be believed.

    Excon
  • Dec 28, 2012, 02:28 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again:

    That may or may NOT be true... But, the public thinks it's the Republicans fault. And, it's gonna cost 'em.

    I dunno why this is such a surprise. The polls reveal it. Oh, that's right. Polls that say ANYTHING negative about Republicans are NOT to be believed.

    excon

    Of course the polls reveal it, there is no adversarial media any longer, but for Fox they're Democrat lapdogs.
  • Dec 29, 2012, 12:44 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, the ONLY one who's telling the truth is FOX News, huh?

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha ha... Bwa he he he heeeeee.. Bwa ho hoho ho ho ho...

    excon
  • Dec 29, 2012, 03:58 AM
    paraclete
    Fox must offer balanced reporting both sides complain about them
  • Dec 29, 2012, 07:25 AM
    excon
    Hello again, clete:

    I don't know... It looks like Steve thinks they're a paragon of virtue.

    excon
  • Dec 29, 2012, 09:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    So, the ONLY one who's telling the truth is FOX News, huh?

    Bwa, ha ha ha ha ha... Bwa he he he heeeeee.. Bwa ho hoho ho ho ho........

    excon

    Not at all what I said. Which part of the lamestream media beyond Jake Tapper has actually held Obama and the Dems accountable?
  • Dec 29, 2012, 09:16 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    Which part of the lamestream media beyond Jake Tapper has actually held Obama and the Dems accountable?
    Glenn Greenwald does. He appears on "lamestream media" regularly. Others do too. Maybe if you turned the dial OFF Fox News once in a while, you'd KNOW that.

    Excon
  • Dec 29, 2012, 09:22 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Glenn Greenwald does. He appears on "lamestream media" regularly. Others do too. Maybe if you turned the dial OFF Fox News once in a while, you'd KNOW that.

    excon

    So you had to go to a British paper to find someone, eh?

    Of course you know the vast majority of the sources I cite are anyone but Fox so you can dispense with the straw man.
  • Dec 29, 2012, 09:34 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Couple things... You asked about lamestream media, and I showed one amongst many. I read him regularly. He's American and used to write for Salon. Maybe they're paying him more money. I don't know and I don't care.. He WRITES from the same office CRITICIZING the president and the Democrats. Kind of like I do.. You've heard of the interweb, haven't you?

    excon
  • Dec 29, 2012, 09:42 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    Couple things... You asked about lamestream media, and I showed one amongst many. I read him regularly. He's American and used to write for Salon. Maybe they're paying him more money. I dunno and I don't care.. He WRITES from the same office CRITICIZING the president and the Democrats. Kinda like I do.. You've heard of the interweb, haven't you?

    excon

    And how many average Americans get their news via The Guardian and not ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNN, HNN, NY Times, etc. I think he and Fox are way outnumbered.
  • Dec 29, 2012, 09:44 AM
    talaniman
    The whole idea of a lamestream media is a straw man argument that the right pushes to decry those they disagree with. Its an excuse not to believe there are other sides of the story. I think conservatives are greatly outnumbered and the farther right the less the numbers.
  • Dec 29, 2012, 12:35 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    The whole idea of a lamestream media is a straw man argument that the right pushes to decry those they disagree with. Its an excuse not to believe there are other sides of the story. I think conservatives are greatly outnumbered and the farther right the less the numbers.

    Speaking of staw men...

    I look at facts and they are on my side.
  • Dec 29, 2012, 01:36 PM
    paraclete
    I think I'm falling
  • Dec 30, 2012, 07:01 PM
    earl237
    Is there anything that Obama can do without congress if they can't reach a deal? There should be some provision for the president to act alone in an emergency when congress is being totally unreasonable.

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