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Some of the more brilliant military commanders have been home grown, not fettered by their training and someone else's world view and stormin Norman is thought brilliant because he beat a group of no hopers by leading a chargeQuote:
Originally Posted by ETWolverine
Wolverine, that's too easy!
You state, What make you so sure we are not unbeatable?
Simple, The brits are their, and we don't loose! :)
Hello:
Has anybody noticed that the terrorists don't seem to BE in Afghanistan any more? I think they're hiding in their safe haven, Pakistan. They've got friends there - just like the Taliban was their friend in Afghanistan.
Isn't that where the fight is? Isn't that the place that we MUST defend because of the nukes?
We're in really deep trouble, aren't we? The dufus broke it soooooo badly, that we might not be able to fix it..
excon
Salvo Excon,
Hope all is well?
There is one sure thing that nobody wants, a war in Pakistan!
This would then force the conflict between India and Pakistan to go to a full blown war
This in turn would then bring Iran into play as they would side with Pakistan against India and particular the US and UK
Which in turn would then bring the rest of the middle east into the playing field and then yes our worst nightmares would be closer to reality than Regan in the 80s every came to it
There is one thing that pakistan needs and wants though - recognition at the table
Their people are spread far and wide across the world and as such can influence domestic policy in their new countries as much as they can in the old and as such, Pakistan has to and is trying to stop their own country being ripped apart
I just hope they haven't left it too late for it to happen, because if they don't then yes we will have to, and who knows what the outcome of that one will be
I commented the other day that there were only 100 Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and the current effort is overkill for eliminating Al Qaeda.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Ex It is highly likely that Pakistan has been the base all along, at least for most of the past eight years. Pakistan has a long history of fostering the groups we now call terrorist and the Taliban grew out of Pakistan and was supported by Pakistan. The present President of Pakistan is a supporter of the Taliban. Attempts to reign them in is being met with stiff opposition and remember you have both an ethnic and a religious component here. These guys have tasted the power of having their own country and it looks attractive to them, not only that but their country is now overrun by infidels in their eyes. They take a very narrow view of who is a Muslim so they won't get support from Iran. The way this should be played is for foreign troops to get out of Afghanistan and the government of Pakistan and Afghanistan be supported by military aid. Surely there are enough mercenaries in the world if they are needed (Blackwater and others).
Yes Bush broke it because he took his eye off the ball and played pattie cake with Saddam to avenge his daddy
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