As opposed to using what you have to glorify God.
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As opposed to using what you have to glorify God.
As you always do....Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
She obviously hadn't gone through complete transitioning with HRT and surgery et al., which can take as long as seven years.
I'm afraid I most certainly do not, but it does not prevent me from making that a great goal of my life, and it does not grant me permission to excuse my failings.
My comment was actually not directed at this deceived person but rather at your comment. "You use what you've got in order to achieve ecstasy and satisfaction." It seemed a strange comment to make about such a tragic and sickening occurrence, and almost seemed to say you had no real issue with what had taken place. Perhaps I mistook your intent.
I have no clue why you're upset with me.
Her prison sentence interrupted her transitioning. (She obviously hadn't gone through complete transitioning with HRT and surgery et al., which can take as long as seven years.)
The prison was very derelict in putting her into a women's section if she still had working male genitalia. In her brain she's female but her body operates as male. She wanted sexual satisfaction, so she used the body parts available to her.
I have no clue why you think I'm upset with you.
I think your reply was good except for your confusion in thinking that a person you refer to as a "she" is capable of getting women pregnant and plainly desires to do so. I'll just file it away under the heading of, "The Great Current Deception".
"She " couldn't keep her penis in "her" pants . You would think if "she " identified as a woman "she" would not act like a perverted man . If it's any comfort to "her" I would consider castration as a suitable punishment for rape .
If I was a betting man, I would bet that "she" would vigorously oppose the idea of losing "her" male genitalia.
Who would ever have thought that federal judges would become the reasonable ones? It's certainly the case here with a fed judge denying the Biden admin a bid to tell the rest of us what to believe.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/jud...hroom-athletesQuote:
A federal judge has blocked a directive from President Joe Biden’s administration that allowed transgender workers and students to use school restrooms matching their gender identities.
It also allowed transgender athletes to join sports teams corresponding with their chosen genders.
The directive was blocked by Judge Charles Atchley Jr. of the Eastern District of Tennessee, a Trump appointee, after a coalition of 20 Republican attorneys general sued last year, Reuters reported.
The link includes an interview with a girl named Chloe Cole. She "transitioned" when she was 13, but now at 17 greatly regrets that decision and is living her life as the female she is.
And as a trans female, that's exactly where she is headed, what she wants to have done. If that very expensive procedure can be done at the state's expense, with all protocols followed, she'd be thrilled!Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
I read up on her. Little or no psychological counseling with family and individually with her, little or no gender testing and therapy. Just because a kid says he or she wants to be a kangaroo doesn't mean parents should knock themselves out to make that wish come true.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
In what way is a boy declaring himself to be a girl less outrageous than a boy declaring he is a kangaroo?Quote:
Just because a kid says he or she wants to be a kangaroo doesn't mean parents should knock themselves out to make that wish come true.
Should a white student be able to declare himself to be black in order to get a scholarship reserved for minority students?
Things happen to the fetal brain and body during pregnancy. Some of those things involve estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone. Since God's perfect binary system was changed and rewritten by Adam and Eve, gender identification is no longer what was originally intended. Humans, animals, insects, and even plants are now subject to non-binary possibilities.
We've been through all of that before. It's just pure conjecture on your part. All of it from hormonal influences, Adam and Eve, gender identification, and so forth. No evidence at all. It could just as well be said that species are now subject to non-binary possibilities so that a human can actually be a horse. It's just pure Polly-Anna fantasies from someone who wants it to be so but cannot demonstrate it is at all.
Binary has nothing to do with humans becoming horses. Read the first three chapters of Genesis.
Then read this:
***Unfortunately for those who believe in a gender binary, it is not scientifically or medically correct. Gender can’t be binary, because it is a personal identity and is socially constructed.
Sex, which refers to one’s biological characteristics, also exists as a spectrum, because intersex people exist. A person’s sex can be female, male, or intersex—which can present as an infinite number of biological combinations.
Today, numerous scientific fields, including biology, endocrinology, physiology, genetics, neuroscience, and reproductive science, have confirmed that both sex and gender exist as a spectrum.***
https://cadehildreth.com/gender-spectrum/
I'm not playing this silly game again with you. There is NOTHING in the first three chapters of Genesis, or anywhere in the Bible for that matter, that suggests that this non-binary nonsense is something even approaching normal or good. If you think there is, then post the passage. Otherwise, I will leave you with your fantasy world.
Now if you want to argue that we humans are broken creatures given over to sin, then you have an ally, but that is not what you're saying, or at least it doesn't seem to be so. It is, however, clearly the message of Gen. 3.
Adam and Eve used their God-given free will to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. And then the universe became subject to endless possibilities, including the fact that both sex and gender are now on a spectrum.
Did earthquakes and volcanoes exist in Genesis 1 and 2? Did fruit spoil in Genesis 1 and 2? Did Adam and Eve always get a satistying night's rest in Genesis 1 and 2? Were there weeds in the Garden in Genesis 1 and 2?
Na he she was going to jail anyway so he she found an easy way to get some booty .Quote:
And as a trans female, that's exactly where she is headed, what she wants to have done. If that very expensive procedure can be done at the state's expense, with all protocols followed, she'd be thrilled!
Idle speculation which is nowhere stated in the Bible. And even in your own statement it is not presented as something that is normal, good, or desirable, but rather that which is the result of man's sin. So it is at least rewarding to see you acknowledge that much. I commend you for at last heading in the right direction!Quote:
And then the universe became subject to endless possibilities, including the fact that both sex and gender are now on a spectrum.
That would seem to be right, and the foolish court system helped him out in that regard.Quote:
Na he she was going to jail anyway so he she found an easy way to get some booty .
Why are there volcanoes and earthquakes? Why can't you always get a good night's sleep? Why are there weeds in your garden and flowerbed? Why do the bananas you bought turn brown?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
That's all because of man's sin? MY sin? YOUR sin?
There is nothing to argue. You have laid it out that the events of Gen. 3 were sinful and produced negative consequences which are not good, pleasing to God, or normal. I certainly think we can agree on that. Now there is nothing in the Bible about your "non-binary" ideas, so you need to keep working on that, but at least we can agree that the whole TG deal is abnormal and out of the will of God.
Non-binary is definitely a shift from the original binary. How does non-binary come to exist?
Is this why men love guns and want to carry them? proof to the world they are binary males? Guns = large penises?
Are your tossings and turnings at night sinful? Are your rotting bananas sinful? Are those invasive poison ivy plants and buckthorn trees sinful? Is a drought or flood sinful?
How did non-binary come to exist? In my view it hasn't. There is certainly no mention of it in the Bible and no endorsement at all.
As to the rest of the silliness, we have already agreed that the fall was sinful and produced negative results which are neither desirable nor normal. There's not much to say past that.
I do like it when we agree.
The Bible leaves a lot (too much) to human interpretation and understanding.
The only Bible words I live my life by is "love one another".
How do you know that one is not affected by your "human interpretation and understanding"??? Are you the one who gets to decide that?Quote:
The only Bible words I live my life by is "love one another".
How would you twist those words to mean something other than what they say?
The same thing can be said of many scriptures, but you don't accept them. You said that you only accept that one. I just wonder how you know that your understanding of the text is right. For instance, how do you know that the "love" called for in that passage fits your current understanding of "love"?
I did NOT say that's the only one I accept!Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
That's a quote from Jesus. What did He mean when He said it?
Of course you did. Here's what you said.Quote:
I did NOT say that's the only one I accept!
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The only Bible words I live my life by is "love one another".
There are many, many other quotes from Jesus that you do not live your life by. Why did you pick that one and that one only? How do you know your understanding of "love" fits HIS understanding of "love"?Quote:
That's a quote from Jesus. What did He mean when He said it?
I'm just parroting what you have said. You said there is too much left to, "human interpretation and understanding." You would have to be included in those faults since you are human. And since that is the case, then why do you trust your interpretation and understanding of that verse?
Cherry picking and misinterpreting again, are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
What was Jesus' meaning when He said "love one another"?Quote:
There are many, many other quotes from Jesus that you do not live your life by. Why did you pick that one and that one only? How do you know your understanding of "love" fits HIS understanding of "love"?
You're the one who said there was ONE VERSE you accepted. I have posted no verses at all, so to accuse me of cherry-picking is just being stupid. The same is true of accusing me of "misinterpreting" when I haven't interpreted anything.
Enough is enough. I'm done. Tell someone else about how you do (and then don't) only accept one verse that, unlike everyone else, you are sure you understand correctly since, after all, you are WONDERGIRL.
Good grief.
No, I did not say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
"The only Bible words I live my life by is 'love one another.'"
The operant words are -- I live my life by.Quote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
That doesn't mean they're the only words I accept.
Lia Thomas the tranformer swimmer has been nominated by the University of Pennsylvania to receive the NCAA’s Woman of the Year award.
Prior to his competing in woman's swimming he was a mediocre competitor in men's swimming .Now he sets all types of woman swimming records and the school and the NCAA let him get away with it .
This is misogyny and utter contempt for woman's athletics . It is a travesty .
The dems have evidently found a cause they value higher than women's equality. It seems that the more nonsensical it is, the better.
No, Mother Nature stepped in and tweaked the pregnancy process.
Yet another contention found nowhere in the Bible.
Genesis 3.
Babies are born with cleft palates, missing body parts, blind, deaf, etc. etc. etc. -- not part of God's original plan.
Mother Nature and pregnancy tweaking are nowhere to be found there. You are just making it up as you go along to suit your own desires.
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