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hacking began well before Trump made his throw away line in the debate or his tweets .Cyber attacks that successfully penetrated the DNC computing system began in 2015.The indictment claims they began in March 2016. I know that Trump is a ham fisted type of guy ; but to believe that he would publicly request that Russia hack emails ,and they would comply stretched credibility to the level of a 'Mel Brooks 'Get Smart ' episode .
I'll explain that when you can explain why Mueller's indictment doesn't mention the Comey revelation that the RNC was also the subject of a hack.Quote:
Have you forgotten that state and local officials discovered hacking from outside sources during the 2016 campaign? The Dufus has NEVER acknowledged any of this or done a darn thing about it since he became Prez! Explain that to me Tom?
Even before then Tom just ask Sony, or Target to name a few. Wouldn't put it past Vlad to take the opportunity to make the Dufus seem like he is onboard with hacking the Clinton office. Is it his ego, or what that keeps him from publicly denying the foreign cyber capability and doing something about it?
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b02b5f858baeacQuote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
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While Russian hackers gained “limited penetration of old RNC” computer systems “that were no longer in use,” the FBI found no evidence that the Trump campaign or current RNC servers were hacked, Comey said.
Comey’s assertion comes after several months of confusion about whether the hackers who stole and leaked thousands of emails from the Democratic National Committee also targeted its Republican counterpart and Trump, who was then the Republican presidential nominee.
If this was what you meant then I can only submit what Rosenstein said about having evidence to actually indict someone, but that doesn't mean that they are not looking into that too, but we won't know that until they actually have something.
Your Turn!
That isn't evidence of anything
Just an article ON the evidence. Easy enough to verify yourself.
Why should I verify a witch hunt, it is plain to see Mueller released indictment of Russians to embarrass Trump. He is playing a political game. The way this should have been handled is Trump appraised of the evidence, used it in meeting with Putin, then an announcement, but no, Mueller wanted to cut the feet from under Trump. He should be fired immediately even if the probe continues.
There used to be definition of treason which was specific disloyalty to the leader, should apply today. Hold one of your congressional kangaroo courts and get rid of him
You should at least TRY to get FACTS before you repeat the words of blithering idiots, and be mistaken for one. We have NEVER had a law here about disloyalty to a leader being the basis of a charge of treason, so add that to the blithering since our foundation is free speech, among other freedoms. A fact you can verify for yourself should you choose.
yes and Trump made it work .His presser with Puty was self serving , pathetic, and sad .Quote:
it is plain to see Mueller released indictment of Russians to embarrass Trump.
Reporter: Do you hold Russia accountable for anything?
Trump: We’re all to blame
GROAN !!!
No, it was to give powerful information for Trump to confront Putin with. But no one believed Trump would turn out to be such a coward and flunkie for Putin as he proved to be in Monday's meeting.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
Trump was apprised (not appraised) of the evidence beforehand but elected not to use it. Instead he agreed with Putin that the Russians did nothing wrong.Quote:
The way this should have been handled is Trump appraised of the evidence, used it in meeting with Putin, then an announcement, but no,
Get a grip. Your abject fear of Trump's right-supporting BS being shown to be lies and more lies terrifies you.Quote:
Mueller .... should be fired immediately even if the probe continues.
Yeah, like Genghis Khan. I'm glad you post these absurdities. It helps the viewers to understand what a nutcase you are.Quote:
There used to be definition of treason which was specific disloyalty to the leader, should apply today.
[QUOTE]But no one believed Trump would turn out to be such a coward and flunkie for Putin as he proved to be in Monday's meeting.[/QUOTE}
can't disagree . What happened is what I feared would happen. The stuff in England was a prelude to the looming disaster todays meeting turned out to be .In the words of John McCain "The damage inflicted by President Trump’s naiveté, egotism, false equivalence, and sympathy for autocrats is difficult to calculate."
This what happens when you allow an unskilled person into a diplomatic arena where no one will cheer. You "might" be a big man at home but on the world stage he is a mouse
I am finally convinced there was no collusion. The Dufus is doing as he is told. Vlad is the MAN in this relationship.
When you loose empire it is hard to define your place for a while, stop kicking against the goad
So Tal will you get off his case. Trump has done no worse with Putin than anyone else. Trump met another person who has absolute power, that is three now, Xi, Kim and Putin and maybe he realises he doesn't. You wanted Putin to grovel like Kim but it was never going to happen
We have lost NOTHING. The lying cheating Dufus is giving it away. A disgusting performance even by YOUR standards. Maybe the Dufus is mad he doesn't have absolute power, and he never will whatever he does. However Kim did NOT grovel, Neither did Xi, and no one expected Putin to either so where you got that from is befuddling.
That says it all, you are befuddled Tal. When Trump called off the Kim meeting the press were saying the was grovelling for the meeting to be back on. Meeting with Xi didn't stop Trump later imposing tariffs and directly confronting China, a tactic that wouldn't work with Russia, but it might be time to undo the freeze with VladQuote:
befuddling.
Screw Vlad! At least do your homework and see what kind of fellow you are siding with. You obviously have no clue whatsoever!
Huh????Quote:
When Trump called off the Kim meeting
You remember the on, off, and on again Singapore meeting
Just Googled it. You're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by paraclete
I wouldn't call it groveling seeing as how the Dufus agreed when Kim promised to denuclearize, which hasn't happened and is a LONG LONG way off don't you think?
Kim has weapons, but his ability to develop more is degraded for the time being. It is doubtful anything significant came from the meeting except a better understanding and a reduction of ridiculous rhetoric. I think the dialogue between NK and SK is the more important development
And of course you have verified his ability to make new weapons has degraded right? >SNICKER<
What I mean is test sites have been destroyed, which may be a ploy, but there haven't been more nuclear tests or rocket tests. Kim may be making more weapons or he has been told by Xi to cool it. The best outcome would be a peace treaty and an opening of trade between NK and SK. We can be sure Kim wants to participate in the China initiative and there would be a price for doing so. Small steps but positive ones are what we can hope for, and if they happen then step again. NK represents an untapped resource
An intapped source of what? Condos on the beach for rich tourists? I doubt he has destroyed anything but a cave entrance, but I do agree the rhetorical level has gone down considerably, as has the military display levels. A good backdrop for quiet talks among the N & SK's. Actually exposing Russia on the world stage is not a bad thing either, maybe a baby step that leads to other steps?
Talking about lifting sanctions is better than aiming Nukes, and conventional weapons, but in Kim's case we still are in the dark on his arms and sales(?), or Vlad's adventurism in the middle east and Baltics, and his cyber incursions into many nations. We will see what more is revealed into every ones motives, behavior, and actions, and the global reactions.
As events unfold more will be revealed and my personal opinion the lying cheating loudmouth bully will also be exposed in MANY very important areas, of which he may have to answer for, and his presidency may not survive the scandal. The only REAL adult in the room who has quietly done his job and let his actions be his words. In the last few days even The Dufus sycophants have been very careful about blasting him or the investigation.
Adult? Sycophant of a different order you mean. You have fallen for the bread and circuses act and wound up with the circus.
One who serves his nation is hardly a sycophant, as it's his job to follow the EVIDENCE, and get to the truth, where ever that leads. LOL, interesting you see him as just another sycophant for the Dufus or whomever you meant, since he is respected by both of our political parties even if the Dufus and HIS sycophants rally together to holler foul.
Maybe lumping people together under one blanket is a personal problem for you. I truly wish I could help you with that, but opening a closed mind may be beyond just my good intentions. I'll just stick with the facts as they present themselves and leave you with your own conclusions and opinions.
Recent revelations certainly have the Dufus and his sycophants scrambling about in amusing ways though, and that circus is entertaining to us so called lefties.
Mueller has given Tony Podesta immunity to testify against Paul Manafort. The fact that it is not the other way around is more evidence that this is a VERY partisan investigation.
That would make 6 witnesses given immunity to testify against Manafort.
Podesta also failed to register as a foreign agent . The defense is going to have a field day with this guy .
The defense will have a field day with all the witnesses that have immunity. You think that will get Manafort off?
Mueller is still trying to turn Manafort. I'm guessing the trial gets delayed ;just like Flynn's sentencing . All Mueller has to hear is "discovery " and he'll delay .
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I think its too late for Manafort, but maybe that will work for her.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
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yeah another one of these sophisticated spies that infiltrated the country and convinced millions of would-be Evita voters to pencil in the wrong block on the ballot .
No more ridicules than the sham Russians right to bear arms. Vlad is rolling over holding his sides from laughing so hard at the fools who fell for it.
What do you care whether the Russians have the right to bear arms? People knew what they saw and they knew that words weren't enough, fool me once, sham on me, fool me twice, not going to happen, you forgot the people in NEW YORK and CALIFORNIA don't rule the country
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