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  • Jul 11, 2013, 05:31 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    No one should read the article other than for the purposes of political spin.

    A lot of percentages figures lace the article but there are no references to be found in relation to these percentages.

    It is certainly an opinion column, as I've said many times that's easily deduced by the 'op/ed' or 'opinion' designation at the top of the page. Not every news site links to sources by the way (and it doesn't work well in actual print), but that doesn't mean the author's facts are wrong. I've linked to the Staffordshire scandal here on more than one occasion.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 05:47 AM
    Tuttyd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    It is certainly an opinion column, as I've said many times that's easily deduced by the 'op/ed' or 'opinion' designation at the top of the page.

    No problem. Just in case someone missed it.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlessx View Post

    Not every news site links to sources by the way (and it doesn't work well in actual print), but that doesn't mean the author's facts are wrong.

    Yes, that can be the case.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlessx View Post

    I've linked to the Staffordshire scandal here on more than one occasion.

    Yes, and I believe I commented on those articles.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 06:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    There is nothing that I can see thus far whereby abortion is touted as being banned.

    Exactly right.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 07:27 AM
    excon
    Hello again,

    This Texan got it right. I'm sure Perry will call her a mob.

    excon
  • Jul 11, 2013, 07:31 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    This Texan got it right. I'm sure Perry will call her a mob.
    Holy crap- that damning stuff right there. I guess good ol' Rick can retire and his sis can funnel some money back to him.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 08:06 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Holy crap- that damning stuff right there. I guess good ol' Rick can retire and his sis can funnel some money back to him.

    One moment you're claiming that documents that do exist don't, the next you're claiming a coincidental link is "damning stuff."

    Quote:

    The Texas legislation is a carbon copy of several antiabortion measures adopted in other states; and so, as the Chronicle notes, the surgical center restriction did not originate in the governor's office.
    P.S. If you want to be heard in a legislative hearing there is a proper decorum. You can't just come in and be an a$$ and expect to not get removed.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 08:11 AM
    NeedKarma
    Hi Steve,

    Here's the link: Texas' proposed abortion restrictions could be a financial boon for Rick Perry's sister - Salon.com
  • Jul 11, 2013, 08:25 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    Quote:

    You can't just come in and be an a$$ and expect to not get removed.
    What? You're not free to make an a$$ out of yourself?? Maybe in the Republic of Texas, but in America, we're FREE.

    Excon
  • Jul 11, 2013, 08:35 AM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    What? You're not free to make an a$$ out of yourself??? Maybe in the Republic of Texas, but in America, we're FREE.

    excon

    Actually that depends on where your standing. And it seems Sarah has been a bust girl for some time now. This is from 2011.

    "A member of our peaceful protest attempted to protect his equipment from the rain, you know, like a humane thing to do," said Sarah Slaman with Occupy Houston.


    6 Occupy Houston Protesters Arrested In Park | News - Home
  • Jul 11, 2013, 08:35 AM
    speechlesstx
    Um, I sourced that link in this quote showing the coincidence:

    Quote:

    The Texas legislation is a carbon copy of several antiabortion measures adopted in other states; and so, as the Chronicle notes, the surgical center restriction did not originate in the governor’s office.
    And if Perry's sister is anything like him I don't foresee her pushing for more abortions at her clinics.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 08:38 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    What? You're not free to make an a$$ out of yourself??? Maybe in the Republic of Texas, but in America, we're FREE.

    excon

    Ok sir, feel free to rail on some judge in court and let me know how that works out for you.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 09:06 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    feel free to rail on some judge in court
    But it wasn't a judge in a court was it. Why change the discussion? Try to stay on topic.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 09:18 AM
    excon
    Hello dad:

    Quote:

    "A member of our peaceful protest attempted to protect his equipment from the rain, you know, like a humane thing to do," said Sarah Slaman with Occupy Houston.
    I told you she had it together... Occupy the Senate!

    Excon
  • Jul 11, 2013, 09:27 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    But it wasn't a judge in a court was it. Why change the discussion? Try to stay on topic.

    Why not try to follow a discussion? Ex said "but in America, we're FREE" (to make an a$$ of oneself) and obviously that's not always the case - call the judge a "liar" and see what happens. It's no different in a state assembly, there are rules and etiquette and if you choose to be an a$$ you just might get removed and have to finish your temper tantrum elsewhere.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 09:35 AM
    NeedKarma
    Well if you have to change the situation that means there's no rebuttal for the original situation. She should have been free to speak since she wasn't calling any judge a liar, those officials saw some unflattering "outings" about to happen and wanted to protect themselves.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 09:37 AM
    excon
    Hello again, Steve:

    When it's time for citizen feedback, a citizen should be FREE to give them feedback.. That's NOT the same as a courthouse... NK nailed you on this one.

    excon
  • Jul 11, 2013, 09:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello dad:

    I told you she had it together... Occupy the Senate!

    excon

    Yeah, the left has another new hero. MSNBC has already got her scheduled for tonight. They haven't gotten over their last hero yet, maybe they an get the two together and talk about how women in Texas "literally" have no control over their bodies.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BO1sCt0CQAI6qUu.jpg:large
  • Jul 11, 2013, 10:02 AM
    NeedKarma
    Dear god, you use BING? LOL.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 10:06 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again, Steve:

    When it's time for citizen feedback, a citizen should be FREE to give them feedback.. That's NOT the same as a courthouse... NK nailed you on this one.

    Excon

    I'm a free speech guy but unlike you I'm not going to pretend I can walk in anywhere and be a disruptive a$$ and expect no response. There are rules in and you know that.

    Quote:

    The speaker shall preserve order and decorum. In case of disturbance or disorderly conduct in the galleries or in the lobby, the speaker may order that these areas be cleared. No signs, placards, or other objects of similar nature shall be permitted in the rooms, lobby, gallery, and hall of the house. The speaker shall see that the members of the house conduct themselves in a civil manner in accordance with accepted standards of parliamentary conduct and may, when necessary, order the sergeant-at-arms to clear the aisles and seat the members of the house so that business may be conducted in an orderly manner.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 10:11 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Dear god, you use BING? LOL.

    Right, the guy responsible for making sure links are in the right place but can't see them right under his nose is mocking me for the occasional use of Bing, which unlike Google is still supported in my browser's search bar. You really should give up trying to get the best of me, you suck at it.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 10:19 AM
    tomder55
    What exactly is wrong with Bing ? I get the same info from that search engine that I get from Google.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 10:32 AM
    NeedKarma
    More sponsored results thrown in: How Could Bing Blending Paid Search Ads into Their Organic Results Effect SEO?
  • Jul 11, 2013, 10:43 AM
    speechlesstx
    Yeah, so?
  • Jul 11, 2013, 10:46 AM
    NeedKarma
    Ah, never mind. Keep using it.
  • Jul 11, 2013, 12:52 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Ah, never mind. Keep using it.

    Are we pretending Google doesn't also use sponsored ads or something? I happen to use an Android phone and an Android tablet, is that enough Google to satisfy you?
  • Jul 11, 2013, 02:09 PM
    NeedKarma
    Yep, sure.
  • Jul 12, 2013, 04:17 PM
    speechlesstx
    It's come to this (actually it's typical of the peaceful, tolerant, civil left)...

    KETK NBC: Jars of urine, feces confiscated at TX capitol as abortion bill voting takes place
  • Jul 16, 2013, 12:00 PM
    excon
    Hello again,

    Tea Partier Scottie Hughes, says,
    Quote:

    Women Aborting Rapist’s Baby Should Serve Same Time As Rapist!
    But I thought a woman's body had a way shutting these things down..

    As my friend Steve would say, you can't make this stuff up.

    Excon
  • Jul 17, 2013, 07:51 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello again,

    Tea Partier Scottie Hughes, says,But I thought a woman's body had a way shutting these things down..

    As my friend Steve would say, you can't make this stuff up.

    excon

    Personally I think the question is nothing more than a trap because Roe is not ever going to be overturned. I mean heck, you people can't even acknowledge if there's ever a time too late to abort and have an aneurysm over any restriction at all, do you honestly thin it will be overturned and women will go to jail for having an abortion?

    Anyway, the relevant point she made was missed, "to us it's a child." Haven't we murdered enough children?
  • Jul 17, 2013, 08:42 AM
    talaniman
    Obviously NOT, since you can kill a kid if you lose a fight and walk away with a bloody nose, and scraps and bumps.
  • Jul 17, 2013, 08:51 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Obviously NOT, since you can kill a kid if you lose a fight and walk away with a bloody nose, and scraps and bumps.

    He was 17 (old enough to be charged as an adult in Texas), he was no angel and that's another thread. A child in the womb is defenseless.
  • Jul 17, 2013, 08:55 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    A child in the womb is defenseless.

    Let's do something to ensure that "child in the womb" doesn't even exist in the first place.
  • Jul 17, 2013, 09:00 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Let's do something to ensure that "child in the womb" doesn't even exist in the first place.

    OK, how about abstinence?
  • Jul 17, 2013, 09:02 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    OK, how about abstinence?

    Yup, that's what most of us used to believe in. Now let's get the word out.
  • Jul 17, 2013, 09:05 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Yup, that's what most of us used to believe in. Now let's get the word out.

    Um, I think we've been trying - too much resistance from the usual suspects.
  • Jul 17, 2013, 09:06 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Um, I think we've been trying - to much resistance from the usual suspects.

    Resistance where? Sounds like an excuse. Go grassroots.
  • Jul 17, 2013, 09:16 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    He was 17 (old enough to be charged as an adult in Texas), he was no angel and that's another thread. A child in the womb is defenseless.

    Doesn't matter if a 17 year old kid was old enough to be charged as an adult, or was an angel or not, because he is dead and cannot answer to his "crime", nor defend himself because of the lousy judgment by an adult. This adult was no angel either.

    We have already been over the helpless defenseless children in the womb, a very small number who are aborted beyond 12 weeks. But the methods to achieve the goal of NO abortions is vastly different.

    On many subject I agree with the goal, but again your methods suck. But you guys are really lousy listeners when it comes to your own agendas. But I think soon now you will figure out listening and cooperating to achieve a better outcome is NOT pandering.

    Until then, the people you piss off will push back in their own interest. They will stand their ground against conservative aggression.
  • Jul 17, 2013, 09:24 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Resistance where? Sounds like an excuse. Go grassroots.

    Why should we have to go grassroots (which we do) while Planned Parenthood gets all manner of taxpayer funding to go mainstream and even set up shop in schools?
  • Jul 17, 2013, 09:26 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Why should we have to go grassroots (which we do)

    Where? Every stable Republican family should mentor an at-risk family.
  • Jul 17, 2013, 09:41 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Doesn't matter if a 17 year old kid was old enough to be charged as an adult, or was an angel or not, because he is dead and cannot answer to his "crime", nor defend himself because of the lousy judgment by an adult. This adult was no angel either.

    Never said Zimmerman was an angel or did the right thing, but it does matter because that was part of the media concocted narrative, that big 'ol "white" guy Zimmerman went after an innocent kid for wearing a hoody, not a 17 year old big enough to do some damage going after that "creepy a$$ cracka" - complete with this image:

    http://l.yimg.com/os/152/2012/03/28/...jpg_175605.jpg

    That was NOT the Trayvon he encountered, but again that's another thread.

    Quote:

    We have already been over the helpless defenseless children in the womb, a very small number who are aborted beyond 12 weeks. But the methods to achieve the goal of NO abortions is vastly different.

    On many subject I agree with the goal, but again your methods suck. But you guys are really lousy listeners when it comes to your own agendas. But I think soon now you will figure out listening and cooperating to achieve a better outcome is NOT pandering.
    Yep, we both want fewer abortions, fewer hungry people, fewer poor people but your side thinks that should be accomplished by enabling them to continue the behaviors that put them at risk, encourage dependence and excuse bad choices. Sorry, that's no road map to achieving a better outcome but you're right, people don't want to hear how to better themselves and take responsibility. They want their free contraceptives and Obama money.

    Quote:

    Until then, the people you piss off will push back in their own interest. They will stand their ground against conservative aggression.
    Hey, I don't blame people for resisting taking responsibility for themselves when they've got you to nanny and coddle them in your 'wussified' America.

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