Yaaaawn is right. I have yet to approach this as a witch hunt on Obama, it's about our rights no matter how far up the ladder it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
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Yaaaawn is right. I have yet to approach this as a witch hunt on Obama, it's about our rights no matter how far up the ladder it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
That's not what your fellow conservatives are saying.
Answer to what I say.
Its about our rights if indeed they were violated. That has yet to be confirmed. Issa will let you know when he has the proof. An admission to a glitch in the process is not admission of intentionally violating anyone's rights given the ambiguity of the law.
Targeted, I ain't ready for that one yet, not without more than allegations. If indeed the TParty was targeted unfairly without proper cause, I will join your outrage but excuse me if I don't just give knee jerk reaction to the allegations.
Still in denial. From the get-go the admission was inappropriate targeting of conservative groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
But for now, I leave you with this:
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Top IRS Official For Obamacare Implementation Placed On Administrative Leave
Sources say a key official in charge of overseeing health reform implementation, as well as another staffer, have been put on leave for accepting more than $1,000 in free meals and other items at a 2010 conference.
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IRS “Can’t Find Receipts’ For $4 Million Conference
The IRS was apparently guilty of some sketchy recordkeeping in determining the complete cost of a $4 million employee conference held in Anaheim, Calif.
Evidently no one had a shoebox to keep all the paperwork.
This infamous conference paid for by the American people, which included a lame Star Trek parody video and a line-dancing video, was the subject of a Treasury Department Inspector General audit into excessive government spending that was released this week.
The IRS spent $50 million on conferences over a couple of years, but it turns out that the price tag for this one may have been higher than reported.
The Inspector General’s 63-page report explained in part, “While IRS management provided documentation showing the total final costs at $4.1 million, we could not obtain reasonable assurance that this amount represents a full and accurate accounting of the conference costs. The IRS was unable to provide documentation to support all costs associated with the conference … As a result, we cannot validate that the ‘final’ conference cost of $4.1 million reported by the IRS.”
Hello again, Steve:
Yeah, the IRS sucks... But, you didn't spend 30 pages whining about them. You want the big guy, and you can't get him.
excon
How come nobody calls congress men on the Agriculture committee a scandal?
EWG Farm Subsidy Database
This is the guy who voted against feeding kids while he votes himself government money for his farms. And the right hollers about the nanny state but they think its okay tosuck off the public teat.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/tea-p...4#.Ua_-66Io6M8
Okay Speech where is your outrage?
You know my position on subsidies.
And the new farm bill is a trillion dollar protection racket, start a thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
MSNBC's Martin Bashir has skillfully identified the latest Republican dog whistle, IRS.
Apparently it goes even farther than just trying to get Obama it's a racist thing, got to get the "black man in the White House."
Just because you are not a nasty ol' racist doesn't mean they don't exist and are highly offended by the black guy in the white house. And will do and say anything to get him out.
And they vote for those that feed them and whose agenda aligns with theirs. A sad fact for sure but race baiting is done on both sides. You have to feed your base or you don't get elected.
Come on Tal, don't you have anything left but the same ol' nonsense? No one has ever said racists don't exist, but you guys just keep validating my point that you either don't care about reality or are in complete denial about it, and you fully intend to perpetuate racial tension.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
I guarantee that the vast majority of Americans of any political persuasion do not have some light bulb that goes off in their head saying "that damn n*****" when someone says "IRS."
That you would agree with Bashir at least tells me where you get your "news." If you want to be seen as in lockstep with such looney birds that's your call, he makes Michelle Bachmann look like an Einstein.
Simple fact is the repubs NEED the racist vote because the won't get the minority one, or the youth or most females. My gosh man, what's left?
Just do the math. And keep hollering about voter fraud, abortion bans and denying gay rights and how lazy and immoral everyone else is but you and you are a victim that's everyone else is trying to take your rights. Do you really think it looks good when old white guys talk so disrespectfully to black men and women in government?
Like I said, your brethren in your party make it very hard to trust them with the interests of America when they treat everyone but their own as second class immoral false citizens. I don't need a poll, or talking head to tell me that.
Enough flapping your gums, get me some hard data on this racist constituency because I just can't seem to find any way to calculate how that puts us over the top on anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
And funny thing, but making women pole dance for jobs and tweeting ones privates is not a Republican thing, and no one treats blacks with less respect than liberals.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GUhZQDJypW...on+on+Rice.jpg
If it takes bribing people and treating them as helpless fools as Dems do I'll be happy to lose elections rather than condescend and lie to people. I'll keep my integrity thank you very much, you can compromise yours for a political agenda if you want but stop taking us down with you. .
Like all those crazy liberal celebrities that go to Africa to try to make a difference?Quote:
no one treats blacks with less respect than liberals.
Uh no, I gave my example already. Our side does things, we don't just pay lip service.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
Bushes honored for AIDS efforts - Houston Chronicle
Hello again,
Being an OUTRAGED taxpaying citizen, I want to KNOW who did WHAT? Why can't Issa subpoena the actual workers or their bosses and make them testify under oath? What is he waiting for? Don't tell me he can't find out who they are. This is an INVESTIGATIVE committee by the US Congress, and they're NOT investigating some PRIVATE company. They've got to know just who the workers are, and there's a REASON why they're not called.
I think Issa is corrupt!
excon
No, you get the elites together for photoshoots:Quote:
we don't just pay lip service
and then a listing of celebrities in attendance. LOL.Quote:
A well-connected coterie of more than 200 guests... After a cocktail reception and the awards presentation, guests adjourned to a seated dinner by Tony’s in a lavish party tent.
If he ain't corrupt he sure is slow. Seems like the people who did what he thinks they did would know who told them to do it.
Or maybe he isn't ready to let the air out of the right wing glee fest and make himself look stupid. It's all drama to distract us from something repubs are up to. Maybe its another robbery of the American people. I thought the bankers got it all last time.
Hello again, tal:
Issa can give them "use immunity", meaning that anything they say can't be used against them. That COMPELS them to testify or go to jail. Issa HAS that power. Why isn't he using it?Quote:
Seems like the people who did what he thinks they did would know who told them to do it.
More importantly, why aren't the right wingers demanding the same thing?
Excon
There is already committee pre-interviews that have been leaked . Pre-interviews are typical for this process. The leaks suggest that more than one IRS employee is going to reveal the truth since they indicate that they are rather peeved at being thrown under the bus and being called 'low level employees' etc.
IRS Staff Cite Washington Link - WSJ.comQuote:
Two Internal Revenue Service employees in the agency's Cincinnati office told congressional investigators that IRS officials in Washington helped direct the probe of tea-party groups that began in 2010.
Transcripts of the interviews, viewed Wednesday by The Wall Street Journal, appear to contradict earlier statements by top IRS officials, who have blamed lower-level workers in Cincinnati.
Elizabeth Hofacre said her office in Cincinnati sought help from IRS officials in the Washington unit that oversees tax-exempt organizations after she started getting the tea-party cases in April 2010. Ms. Hofacre said Carter Hull, an IRS lawyer in Washington, closely oversaw her work and suggested some of the questions asked applicants.
“I was essentially a front person, because I had no autonomy or no authority to act on [applications] without Carter Hull's influence or input,” she said, according to the transcripts.
Mr. Hull could not be reached for comment.
This isn't going away no matter how hard the Obots try to blame shift.
I hope it highlights the stupidity of such tax exemptions and wipes them out, and all those groups have to pay back all the taxes they have already been exempt from, and a hefty fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by tomder55
Don't drink their Kool Aid Ex, but you already know that. Enjoy your Cheerios.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Im not sure what was posted as comments but you have to realize that the schools are out for the summer and the trolls are invading. I watched it and didn't feel offended in any way and I got the message. I thought it was cute.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
And obviously you're assuming those comments were posted by us.Quote:
Originally Posted by excon
Honestly - and if you've actually ever paid attention to my comments (not to mention my signature) you'd find this consistent - I had already been watching the ad and didn't notice anyone's skin color.
Now, back to the actual IRS scandal. Oops, I just blew the dog whistle.
There are trolls everywhere ;especially on YouTube . I've seen many a vile comment on some of the videos. I don't think it makes any kind of statement at all about our society except that every opinion is expressed in an anonymous internet environment .
Smart marketing by General Mills... 1st by creating the clever ad... and then humping the comments all over the MSM .
They turned the comments off.
Not before they let ABC and others know so they could dutifully report it.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeedKarma
AdWeek reported it - they follow these things.
I guess if you want to see conspiracies everywhere you will always find a way to rationalize it.
Whatever... it's working out for them Google has 21 pages of links for this one topic.
It's simply a trend. Here's more info for you: Google Trends - Hot Searches
Well there you go... Cheerios is hot.. good for General Mills .
Google Trends
Yep, marketing works sometimes.
Well that was juvenile.
As was the Star Trek video that the IRS produced with $50,000 tax payer bucks
Cummings calls Issa's IRS bluff: 'I'll release' transcripts clearing White House if he doesn't | The Raw Story
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...se-then-prove/
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Cummings also sent a five-page letter to committee Chairman Darrell Issa, accusing the California Republican of withholding information in the IRS probe and criticizing how he has investigated the Justice Department's flawed gun-tracking program Operation Fast and Furious, the fatal Benghazi terror attacks last year, and now the IRS.
“Your actions over the past three years do not reflect a responsible, bipartisan approach to investigations,” Cummings wrote. “And the committee's credibility has been damaged as a result. Your approach in all of these cases has been to accuse first, and then go in search of evidence to back up your claims. … You have selectively leaked excerpts of interview transcripts, documents and other information, and you have withheld evidence that directly contradicts your claims.”
Issa responded to Cummings' allegations and his comment Sunday on CNN's “State of Union” that the IRS case is “solved” and that he would “wrap this case up” and move on.
LOL, this is priceless:Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Uh no, it is not solved and everyone who's paid any attention knows this has been the game plan for every admin scandal, the "nothing to see here" defense while waiting for it to fade into a mere memory.Quote:
“Based upon everything I’ve seen, the case is solved. And if it were me, I would wrap this case up and move on.”
So why did Issa withhold some facts that were contrary to his theories? I guess the conservative republican IRS worker was lying and he was taking orders from the White House?
I dare Cummings to release the full trascripts .I'm begging him ! But he won't because he is all hot air bluster . He told this line of bovine excrement to Candy Crowley; last seen giving cover to the Emperor's bold face lie about Benghazi during the debate against Romney.
Let's just assume his claim that a 'conservative Republican' worker in the IRS didn't see evidence of problems... what exactly does that prove ? Answer NOTHING .
Hate to break his balloon ;but this is only the opening phase of the investigation. Remember ;Watergate happened June 17, 1972 .It took until August 1974 to link the smoking gun to the President.
IRS agents are beginning to finger their superiors, including one IRS lawyer in Washington DC.It won't take long to peel back this stinkin onion.
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