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  • Jan 4, 2013, 10:43 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    it does invalidate any notion of objective journalism .
    I know, so we apply that same conclusion to Fox News.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 10:44 AM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    It's an anti-anxiety drug, very addictive.
    Thanks. Not sure why he recommends I take that. I don't have any anxiety. Oh well.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 10:48 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I know, so we apply that same conclusion to Fox News.

    Try the Xanax.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 10:53 AM
    NeedKarma
    I assume it's because you are familiar with it. How does it help you?
  • Jan 4, 2013, 11:09 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    I assume it's because you are familiar with it. How does it help you?

    OK, try the Prozac.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 11:31 AM
    NeedKarma
    I don't take anything and I like it that way. :)
    Rolling around with the kids in the snow after work and a few glasses of wine tonight does me fine. Maybe the wife will be randy tonight... :D
  • Jan 4, 2013, 12:19 PM
    speechlesstx
    Not only are they a hazard to clean up and not that eco-friendly, those CFL bulbs can cause skin cancer.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 12:19 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Maybe the wife will be randy tonight... :D

    Hmmm, my brother in law is named Randy too.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 12:24 PM
    NeedKarma
    Oh dear... now I have to get that image out of my head. LOL

    Well played. :)
  • Jan 4, 2013, 12:27 PM
    NeedKarma
    Quote:

    CFL bulbs can cause skin cancer.
    More exaggeration and hyperbole and FUD. Try reading the article.
    BTW the sun can cause cancer too. Better never leave the indoors, you're safer there.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 12:39 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    More exaggeration and hyperbole and FUD. Try reading the article.
    BTW the sun can cause cancer too. Better never leave the indoors, you're safer there.

    Nope, just science. I thought you liked science.

    Quote:

    At Stony Brook’s Advanced Energy Research and Technology Center (AERTC), the team took the same bulbs and studied the effects of exposure on healthy human skin tissue cells, including: fibroblasts, a type of cell found in connective tissue that produces collagen; and keratinocytes, an epidermal cell that produces keratin, the key structural material in the outer layer of human skin. Tests were repeated with incandescent light bulbs of the same intensity and with the introduction of Titanium Dioxide (TiO2) nanoparticles, which are found in personal care products normally used for UV absorption.

    “Our study revealed that the response of healthy skin cells to UV emitted from CFL bulbs is consistent with damage from ultraviolet radiation,” said Professor Rafailovich. “Skin cell damage was further enhanced when low dosages of TiO2 nanoparticles were introduced to the skin cells prior to exposure.” Rafailovich added that incandescent light of the same intensity had no effect on healthy skin cells, with or without the presence of TiO2.

    “Despite their large energy savings, consumers should be careful when using compact fluorescent light bulbs,” said Professor Rafailovich. “Our research shows that it is best to avoid using them at close distances and that they are safest when placed behind an additional glass cover.”
    But hey, we're saving the planet from incandescents.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 12:47 PM
    NeedKarma
    Yea I love science and I'm smart enough to read the articles without knee-jerking. Apparently a glass cover (which most bulb use situations use) kills the risk. Wow, that's pretty intense stuff. It's the same as saying put on sunscreen on bare skin when in the bright sunlight... except in this case they don't mention any damaging results.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 12:53 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Yea I love science and I'm smart enough to read the articles without knee-jerking. Apparently a glass cover (which most bulb use situations use) kills the risk. Wow, that's pretty intense stuff. It's the same as saying put on sunscreen on bare skin when in the bright sunlight...except in this case they don't mention any damaging results.

    The only one who's knee is jerking today is yours in response to nearly every post I make. Find another obsession, something less creepy.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 01:28 PM
    talaniman
    I just checked and all my lamps have shades. They always did so I hope that can save me.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 01:45 PM
    NeedKarma
    But the sun doesn't have a shade!!
  • Jan 4, 2013, 02:09 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    I just checked and all my lamps have shades. They always did so I hope that can save me.

    Just don't break one.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 03:01 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Just don't break one.

    And if you do I hope you know some good hazmat teams .


    Here Is a simple Do it yourself clean up of a broken bulb :

    How should I clean up a broken fluorescent bulb?
    Because CFLs contain a small amount of mercury, EPA recommends the following clean-up and
    Disposal guidelines:

    1. Before Clean-up: Air Out the Room

    • Have people and pets leave the room, and don't let anyone walk through the breakage
    Area on their way out.
    • Open a window and leave the room for 15 minutes or more.
    • Shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning system, if you have one.

    2. Clean-Up Steps for Hard Surfaces

    • Carefully scoop up glass fragments and powder using stiff paper or cardboard and place
    Them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
    • Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass pieces and
    Powder.
    • Wipe the area clean with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place towels in the
    Glass jar or plastic bag.
    • Do not use a vacuum or broom to clean up the broken bulb on hard surfaces.

    3. Clean-up Steps for Carpeting or Rug:

    • Carefully pick up glass fragments and place them in a glass jar with metal lid (such as a
    Canning jar) or in a sealed plastic bag.
    • Use sticky tape, such as duct tape, to pick up any remaining small glass fragments and
    Powder.
    • If vacuuming is needed after all visible materials are removed, vacuum the area where
    The bulb was broken.
    • Remove the vacuum bag (or empty and wipe the canister), and put the bag or vacuum
    Debris in a sealed plastic bag.

    4. Clean-up Steps for Clothing, Bedding, etc.:

    • If clothing or bedding materials come in direct contact with broken glass or mercury-
    Containing powder from inside the bulb that may stick to the fabric, the clothing or
    Bedding should be thrown away. Do not wash such clothing or bedding because mercury
    Fragments in the clothing may contaminate the machine and/or pollute sewage.
    • You can, however, wash clothing or other materials that have been exposed to the
    Mercury vapor from a broken CFL, such as the clothing you are wearing when you
    Cleaned up the broken CFL, as long as that clothing has not come into direct contact with
    The materials from the broken bulb.
    • If shoes come into direct contact with broken glass or mercury-containing powder from
    The bulb, wipe them off with damp paper towels or disposable wet wipes. Place the
    Towels or wipes in a glass jar or plastic bag for disposal.

    5. Disposal of Clean-up Materials

    • Immediately place all clean-up materials outdoors in a trash container or protected area
    For the next normal trash pickup.
    • Wash your hands after disposing of the jars or plastic bags containing clean-up materials.
    • Check with your local or state government about disposal requirements in your specific
    Area. Some states do not allow such trash disposal. Instead, they require that broken
    And unbroken mercury-containing bulbs be taken to a local recycling center.

    6. Future Cleaning of Carpeting or Rug: Air Out the Room During and After Vacuuming

    • The next several times you vacuum, shut off the central forced-air heating/air conditioning
    System and open a window before vacuuming.
    • Keep the central heating/air conditioning system shut off and the window open for at least
    15 minutes after vacuuming is completed
  • Jan 4, 2013, 03:29 PM
    paraclete
    My flouros have just fizzled without breaking, how should I dispose of these environmentally dangerous products?
  • Jan 4, 2013, 03:51 PM
    speechlesstx
    No problem.


    Recycling and Disposal After a CFL Burns Out

    EPA recommends that consumers take advantage of available local options for recycling CFLs, fluorescent bulbs and other bulbs that contain mercury, and all other household hazardous wastes, rather than disposing of them in regular household trash.

    Why is Recycling CFLs Important?

    Recycling prevents the release of mercury into the environment. CFLs and other fluorescent bulbs often break when thrown into a dumpster, trash can or compactor, or when they end up in a landfill or incinerator. Learn more about CFLs and mercury.

    Other materials in the bulbs get reused. Recycling CFLs and other fluorescent bulbs allows the reuse of the glass, metals and other materials that make up fluorescent lights. Virtually all components of a fluorescent bulb can be recycled.

    Your area may require recycling. Some states and local jurisdictions have more stringent regulations than U.S. EPA does, and may require that you recycle CFLs and other mercury-containing light bulbs. California, Maine, New Hampshire (PDF), Minnesota, Vermont and Massachusetts Exit EPA Disclaimer , for example, all prohibit mercury-containing lamps from being discarded into landfills. Visit Earth911.com Exit EPA Disclaimer to contact your local waste collection agency, which can tell you if such requirement exists in your state or locality.

    How and Where Can I Recycle CFLs?

    Waste collection agencies
    Local retailers
    Mail-back services

    ► Contact your local waste collection agency

    Visit Earth911.com Exit EPA Disclaimer to find collection schedules in your area or drop-off locations if curbside collections are not available. Note that waste collection agencies:

    provide services that are usually free, though some may charge a small fee.
    sometimes collect household hazardous wastes only once or twice a year, so residents will have to hold on to their light bulbs until the collection takes place. Other collection agencies provide collection services throughout the year.

    may also collect paints, pesticides, cleaning supplies or batteries.
    usually accept waste only from residents, although some collection programs include small businesses as well.

    ► Visit your local retailers

    Many hardware supply stores and other retailers offer in-store recycling. Visit Earth911.com Exit EPA Disclaimer to find stores in your area or check the list below. Make sure you check directly with the store before you go; not all stores in regional or nationwide chains may be equipped to recycle.


    Ace Hardware store locator
    Aubuchon Hardware store locations
    Bartell Drugs
    Home Depot’s CFL recycling program
    IKEA store locations
    Lowe's recycling program and store locator
    Menards store locator
    Orchard Supply store locator
    TrueValue store locator
    Retail and other locations in certain counties and states:
    Dane County, Wisconsin
    Massachusetts
    Minnesota (PDF)
    City of Napa and southern Napa County, California
    San Francisco, California
    San Mateo County, California
    Vermont

    ► Find out about mail-back services

    Some bulb manufacturers and other organizations sell pre-labeled recycling kits that allow you to mail used bulbs to recycling centers. The cost of each kit includes shipping charges to the recycling center. You fill up a kit with old bulbs, seal it, and bring it to the post office or leave for your postal carrier. Websites that provide more information about mail-back services



    BakPak Mail-Back Recycling (NLR, Inc.)
    EasyPak from Lamprecycling.com (AirCycle)
    EcoLights
    EverLights, Inc.
    Heritage Lifecycle Mailback Services
    Lampmaster
    Osram Sylvania
    RecycleKits from AERC Recycling Solutions
    RecyclePak from Veolia Environmental Services
    Simple Cycle (Lamp Environment Industries, Inc.)
    Think Green From Home (Waste Management Inc.)
    WasteSecure (Universal Recycling Technologies, LLC)


    What If I Can't Recycle?

    If your state or local environmental regulatory agency permits you to put used or broken CFLs in the regular household trash, seal the bulb in a plastic bag and put it into the outside trash for the next normal trash collection.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 05:25 PM
    Tuttyd
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Try the Xanax.


    NK. You can take that as a, yes. You can make the same conclusion about Fox News.
  • Jan 4, 2013, 06:12 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Your area may require recycling.
    You nailed it in one, all we have are these compactor trucks that scrunch up all the recycables and a local tip where you can sort your waste and pay for the privilege of dumping it but I have never seen a receptacle for flouro's
  • Jan 4, 2013, 06:18 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tuttyd View Post
    NK. You can take that as a, yes. You can make the same conclusion about Fox News.

    I would have expected a more rational answer from you.
  • Jan 5, 2013, 07:59 AM
    talaniman
    LOL, you can pay for the privilege of bagging your own groceries too, but the prices for those groceries is going UP. You tell me where the savings is in not having a minimum wage bagger.
  • Jan 5, 2013, 02:30 PM
    paraclete
    You have people to bag your groceries?
  • Jan 5, 2013, 02:45 PM
    NeedKarma
    Only in the quick (15 items or less) checkouts in Canada. And in the U-Scan areas too of course.
  • Jan 5, 2013, 02:48 PM
    paraclete
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NeedKarma View Post
    Only in the quick (15 items or less) checkouts in Canada. And in the U-Scan areas too of course.

    That is certainly the reverse of the trend here
  • Jan 8, 2013, 11:01 AM
    speechlesstx
    Welcome back to the old birtherism... Ted Cruz, born in Canada to an American mother has been in Congress for a week and his eligibility to run for president is already being questioned.

    Quote:

    Ted Cruz may have the aura of a future presidential contender, but is he even eligible to run?

    The newly sworn-in Texas senator and rising Republican star was born in Canada, to a mother who was born in Delaware and Cuban father. That’s triggered a debate about whether he’s eligible for the nation’s highest office — never mind that he’s been in Congress less than a week.

    While there’s no legal precedent for Cruz’s situation, most constitutional scholars surveyed by POLITICO believe the 42-year-old tea party sensation would be OK. But there’s just enough gray area to stoke controversy, as Cruz learned during his campaign for Senate last year.

    The U.S. Constitution states: “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President…”

    “The question ultimately is, What do we mean by a natural born citizen?” asked Yale law professor Bruce Ackerman.

    “The problem is, no one knows what a natural born citizen is,” agreed University of Arizona professor Gabriel Chin, who argued in 2008 that Sen. John McCain was not eligible to be president.
    I didn't know he was running, but I guess it's never too early for a preemptive strike. Better watch out though, he strikes back.
  • Jan 8, 2013, 11:11 AM
    tomder55
    Good thing I have this info archived . I thought I would not need to bring it up anymore.

    Oh well :

    Title 8 of the U.S. CodeSec 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth":

    Anyone born inside the United States

    Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. Does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe

    Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S. as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.

    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. For at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. National

    Any one born in a U.S. Possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. For at least one year

    Any one found in the U.S. Under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21

    Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. Who lived in the U.S. For at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
  • Jan 8, 2013, 11:16 AM
    talaniman
    Boy you righties are really reaching for candidates for 2016 aren't you?
  • Jan 8, 2013, 11:22 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Boy you righties are really reaching for candidates for 2016 aren't you?

    So far the buzz is about Jeb I hear, but that's not the point. Suddenly birtherism is cool again.
  • Jan 8, 2013, 11:27 AM
    tomder55
    I've liked Cruz since he said he'd be willing to have a gvt shut down on the Sunday shows this week. I also like the idea that the Repubics won't raise the debt ceiling if Reid's do nothing Senate doesn't pass a budget. Hope it's not all idle threats .
  • Jan 8, 2013, 11:37 AM
    talaniman
    Third Bush is a charm right? I like him better than Romney, but he does have baggage and birtherism is never cool, never has been. I don't care who does it.

    Not my cup of TEA!

    (couldn't resist)
  • Jan 8, 2013, 11:52 AM
    talaniman
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I've liked Cruz since he said he'd be willing to have a gvt shut down on the Sunday shows this week. I also like the idea that the Repubics won't raise the debt ceiling if Reid's do nothing Senate doesn't pass a budget. Hope it's not all idle threats .

    Republican Senator Calls For Repeat Of 1995 Government Shutdown: 'If We Hold Strong We Can Do That Again' | ThinkProgress

    Quote:

    In addition, a debt ceiling negotiation itself is costly; last time Republicans held it hostage in 2011, the debacle cost taxpayers $19 billion.
    And a downgrade in credit rating AND the set up for the fiscal cliff. That was just with talk of a shutdown.

    Quote:

    In his first week in Congress, Cruz is already earning a reputation as an unwavering firebrand. As he explained on Fox News Sunday this past weekend, “I don’t think what Washington needs is more compromise.”
    You don't compromise on paying the bills you already have incurred. You pay them. More hostaging taking by the right wing loonies... on FOX(?).
  • Jan 8, 2013, 11:53 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by talaniman View Post
    Third Bush is a charm right? I like him better than Romney, but he does have baggage and birtherism is never cool, never has been. I don't care who does it.

    Not my cup of TEA!

    (couldn't resist)

    I refuse to speculate on candidates, although it's always fun imagining a Biden campaign.
  • Jan 8, 2013, 12:37 PM
    talaniman
    Yeah!!
  • Jan 8, 2013, 12:49 PM
    tomder55
    Just think about the money saved when 'non-essential ' personnel get furloughed . You don't compromise on paying the bills you already have incurred why not ? I did that when I negotiated a short sale on my home .
    The problem is that so long as Reid doesn't pass a budget ;the past budget becomes the phoney base line that keeps on getting added to. This BS has to end . Maybe put Reid in jail if he doesn't do his job . The law mandates that a budget gets passed .
  • Jan 8, 2013, 12:57 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    just think about the money saved when 'non-essential ' personnel get furloughed . You don't compromise on paying the bills you already have incurred why not ? I did that when I negotiated a short sale on my home .
    The problem is that so long as Reid doesn't pass a budget ;the past budget becomes the phoney base line that keeps on getting added to. This BS has to end . Maybe put Reid in jail if he doesn't do his job . The law mandates that a budget gets passed .

    Oddly, the Dems are floating the idea of forcing Republicans to take them to court over the debt ceiling while ignoring their lawful duty to pass a budget.
  • Jan 28, 2013, 02:39 PM
    speechlesstx
    Thanks to a decree by the Librarian of Congress it is now illegal to unlock your smartphone. Who cares if you paid for it, you can't take it with you. The cost if you do? A $2500 civil penalty for individuals, a half million if you look to make money doing plus possible jail time.

    Since when did we allow the Library of Congress to decree such things?
  • Jan 28, 2013, 03:16 PM
    talaniman
    Unlocking your new smartphone is now illegal: What you need to know | Digital Trends

    Quote:

    Every three years, the Librarian reviews the specific rules of the DMCA, and makes exemptions allowed under the law. In 2006, the Librarian decided that phone unlocking should be exempted under DMCA. But that changed in 2012.

    Why did the rule change?

    Because the Librarian was convinced, for a number of reasons, that allowing unlocking was no longer a necessary exemption.

    The primary reason cited by the Librarian is, there are an increasing number of phones you can buy that come unlocked. Apple and its carrier partners sell the iPhone 5 unlocked, for example. Google's Nexus 4 also comes unlocked. T-Mobile has plans to offer more of its phones unlocked. And retailers like Best Buy offer all sorts of unlocked phones. In short, the Librarian decided that there's no reason to alter the DMCA to allow people to unlock any phone since people can easily buy an unlocked phone nowadays, if they choose to do so.

    Furthermore, new court decisions have changed the interpretation of the law. In 2010, the Ninth Circuit court decided in Vernor v. Autodesk, Inc that we cell phone owners do not actually “own” the software running our phones. Instead, we are only “licensing” this software – a key difference – which means that we don't have a right to alter that software. This also played a role in the Librarian's decision.


    Read more: Unlocking your new smartphone is now illegal: What you need to know | Digital Trends
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  • Jan 28, 2013, 03:26 PM
    NeedKarma
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    Apple and its carrier partners sell the iPhone 5 unlocked
    And you will pay a premium for that "benefit":
    Attachment 42575

    The vast majority of phones are sold subsidized and locked, with a term plan.

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