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  • Jan 4, 2011, 08:09 AM
    ITstudent2006

    Lions 6-10, 4gm win streak (no longer active streak in the NFL besides the Pats) we're hungry, determined and angry. We've learned to win and not give it away in the 4th. Too bad the seasons done!

    It should be an interesting draft!
  • Jan 4, 2011, 08:18 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ITstudent2006 View Post
    Lions 6-10, 4gm win streak (no longer active streak in the NFL besides the Pats) we're hungry, determined and angry. We've learned to win and not give it away in the 4th. Too bad the seasons done!

    It should be an interesting draft!

    Megatron was a big part of one or two of my fantasy championships this year. Didn't matter who was throwing to him, he was solid.
  • Jan 4, 2011, 08:22 AM
    ITstudent2006

    That is true. I am eager to see what Detroit does with Shaun Hill, he had a huge role in the late success of the Lions and to just dump him when Stafford gets back would be horrible.

    Even as a backup he is worth more then ever letting go. Especially with Stanton being #2 if Hill leaves. Ewww... (I'm a huge State boy but Stanton just isn't performing like Hill)

    The draft will be exciting that's no doubt. Hill is a free agent now and I'm concerned they're just going to dump him. What a mistake.
  • Jan 4, 2011, 08:32 AM
    speechlesstx

    I didn't understand why SF let Hill go, his play helped Singletary get the head coaching job.
  • Apr 6, 2011, 10:36 AM
    speechlesstx
    Time for a nanny state update. No surprise here, the latest city to seek a ban on Happy Meals instead of dealing with real issues is... New York City.
  • Apr 6, 2011, 11:45 AM
    tomder55

    We aren't happy people . I wonder when Comrie will propose banning dirty water hot dog stands ?
  • Apr 6, 2011, 12:04 PM
    smoothy

    Want to see how long it takes for NY to ban being rude?

    I don't suggest holding your breath,
  • Apr 11, 2011, 06:45 AM
    speechlesstx
    Boston Mayor Thomas Menino just banned sugary drinks from city property.

    “I want to create a civic environment that makes the healthier choice the easier choice in people’s lives, whether it’s schools, work sites, or other places in the community," said Menino in the press release issued last week about the soda ban.

    Menino announced the ban to force people into healthier choices the day after reaching an agreement to allow the sale of mixed drinks at Fenway Park, as Coke is obviously the healthier choice when mixed with Jack Daniels.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 07:51 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Boston Mayor Thomas Menino just banned sugary drinks from city property.

    “I want to create a civic environment that makes the healthier choice the easier choice in people’s lives, whether it’s schools, work sites, or other places in the community," said Menino in the press release issued last week about the soda ban.

    Menino announced the ban to force people into healthier choices the day after reaching an agreement to allow the sale of mixed drinks at Fenway Park, as Coke is obviously the healthier choice when mixed with Jack Daniels.

    Obviously something that would happen in Leftychusetts,
  • Apr 11, 2011, 07:55 AM
    speechlesstx

    I think they should ban wealthy Senators from parking yachts elsewhere to avoid paying taxes to the state they represent.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 08:09 AM
    smoothy

    Or prevent them from Harping on alternative energy like wind power then like the hypocrites they are... work to ban them in their own back yard.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 08:23 AM
    startover22

    Speech, or at least living in the state he is a Senator for:)
    Check out Oregon, politicians are elected but don't even reside here! Is that crazy? Ohhh I have not been up to date on all the issues of late, been out of commission, I can't wait to go read a good year of CRAP you guys write about! LMAO
  • Apr 11, 2011, 08:25 AM
    speechlesstx

    Start, or showing up for work instead of being "fleebaggers" in another state.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 08:26 AM
    startover22

    I just need to get back into the swing of things and see what the hell is happening around this world. I will get back with you... LOL
  • Apr 11, 2011, 09:07 AM
    speechlesstx

    Nice to see you back. :)
  • Apr 11, 2011, 01:52 PM
    speechlesstx

    Some Chicago schools are now banning lunches packed from home. No word yet on whether they'll allow the sale of mixed drinks.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 02:03 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Some Chicago schools are now banning lunches packed from home.

    I read that in this morning's paper. The kids who packed their own lunches brought chips and soda and cookies. The school principal hoped the school would give them a better variety and more nutritious food. The kids are throwing it away.

    Go back to chips and sodas and cookies?

    I'm thinking the school should involve the kids in making up the menu. Both should compromise.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 02:10 PM
    tomder55

    I can't imagine the ruckus my mom would've made if they prevented us from bringing in the lunches she made for her 5 children.
    Actually... yes I can imagine it. She stormed the gates of the schools more than once.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 02:18 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    I can't imagine the ruckus my mom would've made if they prevented us from bringing in the lunches she made for her 5 children.
    Actually ...yes I can imagine it. She stormed the gates of the schools more than once.

    She sent you to school with a lunch of chips, soda, and cookies? I think not! That is exactly why the principal is doing this -- the kids are packing their own lunches -- and badly. What would you have put in your lunch bag?
  • Apr 11, 2011, 03:19 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    She sent you to school with a lunch of chips, soda, and cookies? I think not! That is exactly why the principal is doing this -- the kids are packing their own lunches -- and badly. What would you have put in your lunch bag?

    I used to get chips and a sandwich, Soda was available in the machine at school and I got an allowance so I could get cinnamon rolls that they baked fresh daily and smothered in butter. So why should the state control the foods people eat?
  • Apr 11, 2011, 03:25 PM
    excon
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    So why should the state control the foods people eat?

    Hello dad:

    Or the herbs they smoke?

    excon
  • Apr 11, 2011, 03:31 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by excon View Post
    Hello dad:

    Or the herbs they smoke?

    excon

    Lets not even go there. They won't even consider hemp as a renewable source for bio fuel and its cheaper to grow and process then corn (food).


    Yet they want control of everything so long as they are exempt from it.

    Go figure.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 03:50 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    So why should the state control the foods people eat?

    So they don't become obese monstrosities and run up the cost of health insurance?

    And the state isn't doing this. It's only one little woman, the principal -- and maybe the board of ed. (i.e. parents). She believes in recess too.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 04:06 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    So they don't become obese monstrosities and run up the cost of health insurance?

    And the state isn't doing this. It's only one little woman, the principal -- and maybe the board of ed. (i.e., parents). She believes in recess too.

    I believe it was stated in the article that other schools are also participating in the ban. Its not stated as to which ones. So far as obese goes what's to stop them from eting more then one meal or when at home doing nothing outside and only playing video games? What studies are now showing is that the more active the children the worse off the diet is because of quick easy choices being made by the parents.

    This is just another infringement upon peoples rights.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 04:16 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by califdadof3 View Post
    I believe it was stated in the article that other schools are also participating in the ban.

    Ban? If the parents refuse to feed their kids correctly, SOMEone has to.

    From the article, "A Chicago Public Schools spokeswoman said she could not say how many schools prohibit packed lunches and that decision is left to the judgment of the principals."

    It's not a state "ban."
    Quote:

    So far as obese goes what's to stop them from eting more then one meal or when at home doing nothing outside and only playing video games?
    Then, whose responsibility is it?
    Quote:

    What studies are now showing is that the more active
    The children the worse off the diet is because of quick easy choices being made by the parents.
    That makes no sense.
    Quote:

    infringement on people's rights
    Then the parents need to talk with the principals.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 04:21 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Ban? If the parents refuse to feed their kids correctly, SOMEone has to.

    From the article, "A Chicago Public Schools spokeswoman said she could not say how many schools prohibit packed lunches and that decision is left to the judgment of the principals."

    It's not a state "ban."

    Then, whose responsibility is it?

    That makes no sense.

    Then the parents need to talk with the principals.



    It's the responsibility of the parents and the doctors treating the children to consult on eating habits if it has become a problem. If its not a problem then there is no reason to butt into it. Unless you believe the goobermint will save us all from what we do.

    Do you really believe in one size fits all type of programs?
  • Apr 11, 2011, 04:29 PM
    tomder55
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    She sent you to school with a lunch of chips, soda, and cookies? I think not! That is exactly why the principal is doing this -- the kids are packing their own lunches -- and badly. What would you have put in your lunch bag?

    Sometimes cookies... sometimes chips too . Usually the sandwich was some brand of bologna conconction or peanut butter (would the school even permit me to bring that into school these days ?),on some soggy bleached white bread .It's the best my parents could do at that time .

    When I got lunch money it was usually purchase ice cream from the school ,and save the balance for candy from 7-11 on the way home. On days the school served hot dogs or some chef boyardee concoction I usually got the hot lunch.

    What you are saying is that the principle is assuming the parents will act irresponsibly and has decided to assume the role of parent. This is all nanny statism . Yeah there are always good intentions . But bottom line ,it is not their place to decide what parents feed their kids.

    Maybe they should concentrate instead on what they are paid to do. Teach the kids!!
  • Apr 11, 2011, 04:42 PM
    cdad

    And here is the rest of the story. Seems its being pushed by the Federal Goobermint.

    Nachos for lunch? Yes, every day - Chicago Tribune



    So today's menu is...

    Chartwells Schools
  • Apr 11, 2011, 04:57 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    I read that in this morning's paper. The kids who packed their own lunches brought chips and soda and cookies. The school principal hoped the school would give them a better variety and more nutritious food. The kids are throwing it away.

    Go back to chips and sodas and cookies?

    I'm thinking the school should involve the kids in making up the menu. Both should compromise.

    I maybe ate lunch at school a half dozen times through sixth grade. I walked home the 5 blocks for lunch 99 percent of the time. In Jr High and High School I got an allowance for lunch, more often than not I ate anywhere but the school cafeteria. Face it, the food sucked and I would never force kids to eat school food or more importantly, say parents can't send their kids to school with a lunch.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 05:01 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Ban? If the parents refuse to feed their kids correctly, SOMEone has to.

    Bullsh*t. The state should mind its own business unless the kids are abused and/or neglected. If I want to feed my kids fish sticks and cookies the state has no say in it.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 05:12 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Bullsh*t. The state should mind its own business unless the kids are abused and/or neglected. If I want to feed my kids fish sticks and cookies the state has no say in it.

    It's not the state. It's the principal of your school. Then you talk with him or her, if you're not happy.

    principal = in loco parentis

    Would you scream if they took recess away from your kid? Or handwriting? Or sentence diagramming?
  • Apr 11, 2011, 05:18 PM
    cdad
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    It's not the state. It's the principal of your school. Then you talk with him or her, if you're not happy.

    principal = in loco parentis

    Would you scream if they took recess away from your kid? or handwriting? or sentence diagramming?

    Those issues would motivate me to speak up. When mine were in school they knew me by first name. I wasn't knitpicky but I did stand up against the system a few times. I also had a principle tell me that my son had surpassed the capacity in a subject for the private school he was in and they were surprised when I pulled him out of it the next day. Go figure.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 05:21 PM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    It's not the state. It's the principal of your school. Then you talk with him or her, if you're not happy.

    Who pays the principal? The people. He is "the state," of, provided by, or concerned with the civil government of a country. I'm still the parent, not him.

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    Would you scream if they took recess away from your kid? Or handwriting? Or sentence diagramming?
    Yes. The end of cursive?
  • Apr 11, 2011, 05:25 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by speechlesstx View Post
    Who pays the principal? The people. He is "the state," of, provided by, or concerned with the civil government of a country. I'm still the parent, not him.

    So then parents will attend PTA meetings, parent-teacher conferences, and be comfortable in the principal's office talking about school policies and procedures -- and reaching compromises.
    Quote:
    Well, recess is gone, as is handwriting and diagramming. Someone didn't speak up.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 07:04 PM
    smoothy

    Michelle Obama probably has her big fat behind involved in this.

    After all, Bertha Butt herself has a lot to say about big bums.
  • Apr 11, 2011, 07:06 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    Michelle Obama probably has her big fat behind involved in this.

    Nope. It's just common sense.
  • Apr 12, 2011, 02:20 AM
    tomder55

    Quote:

    Yes. The end of cursive?
    Yeah they probably dropped calligraphy and the use of the abacus too.
  • Apr 12, 2011, 04:40 AM
    smoothy
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Wondergirl View Post
    Nope. It's just common sense.

    You missed my point on that... ever see her butt? I'm serious... its HUGE same with her legs.

    Now plenty of people are big, and some can't help it... but "people who live in glass houses......"
  • Apr 12, 2011, 05:00 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tomder55 View Post
    yeah they probably dropped calligraphy and the use of the abacus too.

    The abacus was gone when I was in school but we hadn't switched to calculators either, we had to think. You know, the next generation won't even be able to read the Declaration of Independence.
  • Apr 12, 2011, 05:07 AM
    speechlesstx
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by smoothy View Post
    You missed my point on that.....ever see her butt? I'm serious...its HUGE same with her legs.

    Now plenty of people are big, and some can't help it....but "people who live in glass houses......"

    I've never paid any attention to any First Lady's butt, especially Hillary's - though I bet excon did.

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