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  • Jul 17, 2023, 04:29 AM
    tomder55
    A Federal Judge has denied parents their rights again.


    Quote:

    Senior United States District Judge John A. Mendez dismissed a lawsuit Tuesday in which a Chico woman claimed the Chico Unified School District socially transitioned her child without her informed consent, therefore violating her constitutional rights.


    Federal judge dismisses gender transition lawsuit against CUSD – Chico Enterprise-Record (chicoer.com)


    This is in line with the Dems thesis explained by Evita
    It Takes a Village | Book by Hillary Rodham Clinton | Official Publisher Page | Simon & Schuster (simonandschuster.com)

    And more recently by Clueless Joe .
    “There's no such thing as someone else's child.” “Our nation's children are all our children.”

    Daily Wire on Twitter: "Biden: "There's no such thing as someone else's child. Our nation's children are all our children!" https://t.co/0jaCY8MeMx" / Twitter
  • Jul 17, 2023, 04:35 AM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    “The issue before this Court is not whether it is a good idea for school districts to notify parents of a minor’s gender identity and receive consent before using alternative names and pronouns, but whether the United States Constitution mandates such parental authority,” the order reads. “This Court holds that it does not.”
    Might be time for a constitutional amendment. In the meantime, parents must realize that, in many states, sending your kids to government schools is not a good idea.
  • Jul 22, 2023, 07:00 PM
    tomder55
    https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ng&oe=64C097D3
  • Jul 23, 2023, 05:18 AM
    jlisenbe
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  • Jul 31, 2023, 03:57 AM
    tomder55
    https://scontent-atl3-2.xx.fbcdn.net...BQ&oe=64CB8BF2
  • Jul 31, 2023, 08:49 AM
    Wondergirl
    Do you shun the LGBTQ+ members of your family?
  • Jul 31, 2023, 10:49 AM
    jlisenbe
    The really terrible thing about that movie is that it is Hollywood directing its propaganda efforts at children. Men are bad, gender is fluid, race is a big deal, and only women are strong. Sigh. It's sad that people will waste their money to see Snow White, and yet make no effort to see Sound of Freedom.

    I don't shun anyone in my family, but neither do I encourage their immoral behavior. Come to think of it, I don't encourage my OWN immoral behavior either.
  • Jul 31, 2023, 11:50 AM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    I don't shun anyone in my family, but neither do I encourage their immoral behavior.

    It isn't immoral. If it is, then being lefthanded is immoral. Wearing glasses or contacts is immoral. Being divorced is immoral. Shall I go on???
  • Jul 31, 2023, 12:25 PM
    jlisenbe
    Depends. What standard of morality are you appealing to?
  • Jul 31, 2023, 12:48 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Depends. What standard of morality are you appealing to?

    Mother Nature is in charge right now. That will end soon, I hope.
  • Jul 31, 2023, 01:07 PM
    jlisenbe
    Appealing to Mother Nature is not an appeal to a moral code. It is basically saying, "I have no idea". The only code for Mother Nature is the survival of the fittest.
  • Jul 31, 2023, 01:22 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    Appealing to Mother Nature is not an appeal to a moral code. It is basically saying, "I have no idea". The only code for Mother Nature is the survival of the fittest.

    Mother Nature destroyed the moral code. Read Genesis.
  • Jul 31, 2023, 01:40 PM
    jlisenbe
    That idea is found nowhere in Genesis or any other place in the Bible.
  • Jul 31, 2023, 02:21 PM
    Wondergirl
    Free will. "I can do whatever my body tells me to do, whatever I want to do, whatever I feel like doing."

    Genesis

    Then the Ten Commandments were given in an attempt to rein in personal desires. They didn't solve the problem.

    Hmm, what was the next solution that was tried?
  • Jul 31, 2023, 04:10 PM
    jlisenbe
    Quote:

    "I can do whatever my body tells me to do, whatever I want to do, whatever I feel like doing."
    A made up quote found nowhere in the Bible does nothing to help your case.

    Quote:

    Then the Ten Commandments were given in an attempt to rein in personal desires. They didn't solve the problem.
    I thought you said MN did away with a moral code. If that is so, then how do you explain the Ten Commandments? They are certainly a moral code.

    So again, what moral code are you appealing to in your effort to make practically anything and everything sexually OK? It sounds like you are simply putting forward your own personal beliefs. Correct?
  • Jul 31, 2023, 04:33 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    A made up quote found nowhere in the Bible does nothing to help your case.

    Free will. No moral code.

    Quote:

    I thought you said MN did away with a moral code. If that is so, then how do you explain the Ten Commandments? They are certainly a moral code.
    I said MN has no moral code. "Then the Ten Commandments were given in an attempt to rein in personal desires."

    Quote:

    So again, what moral code are you appealing to in your effort to make practically anything and everything sexually OK? It sounds like you are simply putting forward your own personal beliefs. Correct?
    Mother Nature is in charge right now.
  • Jul 31, 2023, 04:53 PM
    jlisenbe
    So it's exactly as I said. You have no moral code to appeal to other than "Mother Nature", which of course is no code at all. I have learned to always ask moralizers what moral code they are appealing to. There is scarcely ever a sensible answer, and that is what has happened here. It's just your own personal views masquerading as morality.
  • Jul 31, 2023, 05:11 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    So it's exactly as I said. You have no moral code to appeal to other than "Mother Nature", which of course is no code at all. I have learned to always ask moralizers what moral code they are appealing to. There is scarcely ever a sensible answer, and that is what has happened here. It's just your own personal views masquerading as morality.

    Apparently, you can't read and comprehend.

    In early Genesis, mankind was given free will. There was no moral code at the time. Time passed. God, Who saw humanity taking advantage of others because of free will, gave Moses the Ten Commandments, a moral code of "do"s and "don't"s. That still didn't end the abuses done because of free will. God had yet another solution up His sleeve.
  • Jul 31, 2023, 05:24 PM
    jlisenbe
    And still you have no moral code to appeal to. Hmm. It’s as I have said repeatedly.

    Your vague appeal to Genesis helps you none at all. Your personal insult of me also helps you none at all. So you have nothing.
  • Jul 31, 2023, 06:25 PM
    Wondergirl
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jlisenbe View Post
    And still you have no moral code to appeal to. Hmm. It’s as I have said repeatedly.

    Did you actually read my response??? I said the TEN COMMANDMENTS was the moral code.

    Quote:

    Your vague appeal to Genesis helps you none at all. Your personal insult of me also helps you none at all. So you have nothing.
    VAGUE APPEAL TO GENSIS??? Are you suffering from Alzheimer's?

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