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Strange that you always consider yourself to be the noble exception. Well, you won’t sell me on that nonsense. Not buying today.

I think you read too much fiction.

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Church youth group I belonged to went on all-day hikes at Letchworth State Park, Watkins Glen State Park, Niagara Falls. Also played volleyball, miniature golf, bowling, cared for our garden, learned how to make simple meals, of course Bible study, and so on. No time or opportunity to be deceitful. Similar for my sons' age groups.

P.S. I'm a fiction writer as well as reader. And published nonfic writer.

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No time or opportunity to be deceitful. Similar for my sons' age groups.

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Sorry but just don't believe that. I was a principal for far too many years. You think that because you went on hikes and played volleyball that you weren't devious? You're the very person on this site who claimed Ruth and Naomi were lesbian lovers and Jesus and John were homosexual lovers, and yet you think you weren't devious???

You obviously have NO idea what devious means.

I know precisely what it means.

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I know precisely what it means.

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Going on hikes etc. does not make one devious. Having an opinion different from yours does not make me devious.

No one said any of that. I certainly didn't.

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No one said any of that. I certainly didn't.

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Yes, and you were very devious when you said it. :-)

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You're the very person on this site who claimed Ruth and Naomi were lesbian lovers and Jesus and John were homosexual lovers, and yet you think you weren't devious???

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I didn't "claim it"; I suggested it as a possibility. That's not being devious.

I never said that.

You did claim it. It's a devious strategy to make the Bible appear to condone what it very plainly disallows.

Good night. Been a good yet tiring day.

I did NOT claim it! I threw it out as a possibility.

And where does the Bible disallow it?

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I did NOT claim it! I threw it out as a possibility.

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Even more devious. "I merely suggested it might be true!" It's trying to take both sides of the issue at the same time.

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And where does the Bible disallow it?

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I just posted it two or three days ago. Remember where you said Paul was wrong? And that is just one of a half dozen or so places.

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Even more devious. "I merely suggested it might be true!" It's trying to take both sides of the issue at the same time.

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That is NOT being devious!

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I just posted it two or three days ago. Remember where you said Paul was wrong? And that is just one of a half dozen or so places.

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You're no longer making sense and are misremembering, twisting my words and their meanings just like you do the Bible's.

Yep. Devious you are.

Post 234 under Transgender Women. Read it and weep.

“Paul was wrong,” is tha actual quote. Ready to correct yourself?

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Post 234 under Transgender Women. Read it and weep.

“Paul was wrong,” is tha actual quote. Ready to correct yourself?

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Nope. Our loving and forgiving God knows that the universe He created isn't ABC123 any longer. Jesus said, "Love one another" and show love to His Father's creation.

He didn't say, "Accept anything, and ignore Paul if he doesn't agree with WG's preconceived ideas." You are sadly deceived.

This is what I meant for you to correct yourself on. "You're no longer making sense and are misremembering, twisting my words and their meanings..." I twisted nothing. You said exactly what I posted. In all honesty, you should admit you were wrong in your allegation. I know you won't, but you really should.

"...twisting my words...just like you do the Bible's."

I post two dozen passages that clearly say the same message. You don't like the message, so you lash out and claim words are being twisted. We both know that is not true.

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"...twisting my words...just like you do the Bible's."

I post two dozen passages that clearly say the same message. You don't like the message, so you lash out and claim words are being twisted. We both know that is not true.

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You are the devious one who is "losing" so then changes the subject and makes the discussion a personal diatribe.

My goodness. You'd rather get mad than simply admit you were wrong. Sad.

I recall thousands of peaceful protesters on both sides of the abortion issue in the 1970s . Somehow I don't think the protests we are seeing will end as peacefully .

Pro-Choice Protesters Stormed Brett Kavanaugh's House (businessinsider.com)

I’m afraid that is true. It seems to be the volatile issue of our day. Who would have thought that defending the lives of the unborn would prove to be so enraging?