The Lord has provided we have had RAIN!
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The Lord has provided we have had RAIN!
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Thank God for that. Happy for you guys.
Yes but it is short lived so we will see where we go from now. I was reviewing some statistics and while these fires are up there have been others even a massive 117 million hectares, so let's hope we don't get to that, in 1851 the fire season was as large so let us not hear about climate changeQuote:
Originally Posted by jlisenbe
Just seen where 24 Australian citizens were arrested for STARTING FIRES! This mess is man inspired.
These 24 should receive some due punishment.
You can be assured they will, however we no longer lynch arsonists, pity, i would have thought a slow roasting was what they deservedQuote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
I second that emotion: These people are really, really sick!
Yes but they didn't start the many hundreds of other firesQuote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
Fires can spread grow, and start other fires quite well just on it's own. Just saw fire and wind create a firenado right before my eyes, as well as firestorms complete with thunder and lightning. Fascinating and dangerous.
Been there, dont want to go there
Me either, but that's not always our choice. Even if we could do a lot more we still face the possibility that it's not enough.
Tal, our puny efforts are never enough. we have this great hysteria about climate change and emissions and our efforts can never be enough because the goal posts keep moving. Once it was 25% abatement, now it is 100%, which means we move back to the stone age. You see this month many people in Australia found out what it is like to be without electricity, without telephones, without sufficient transport, with water supply at risk and what it taught us is we are not going to go quietly into the dark, we will use our full resources to preserve our civilisation. This means we will build more dams, cut back vegetation, reduce our specific risks whether the rest of the world, or even our indigenous peoples, think it is a good idea or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Paraclete: If you are going to have to go back to the mid-1800's, you need your firearms back, too! YOU HAVE TO DO WHAT IS REQUIRED THAT YOU DO! The WORLD doesn't live in AUSTRALIA, YOU DO!
A man without a gun is a victim.....eventually!
Vac, even in the 1800's we didn't need every man with a gun to control this country, this isn't america and a different ethos operates here. So you can take your guns and shove them where it hurts the most. No gun ever prevents nor fights a fireQuote:
Originally Posted by Vacuum7
Now Clete, we all know that when this is finally over things go back to business as usual. No lessons learned and it may takea few more disasters to get people thinking and acting.
I'm not as cynical as you are Tal, already the move is to consensus to solve our problems, you see our ethos is rooted in concensus, not the division that the left injects into society. There is no class struggle here, our billionairres have stepped up and I expect more to come. We are not the capitalist society you are, business only thinks it rules here. It is interesting to note that our economy was flagging but now we will have a fire led recovery, I expect a time of growth, and at the end of it, our approaches will be differentQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Just read that the Australian fires killed well over a billion animals: I expect that the Dingos weren't among those numbers and their population will probably benefit from the fires in a weird "Unnatural" balance.
What comes after fire season Clete? No doubt the bulldozers and planes and helicopters get parked, and volunteers go home and everybody breathes a sigh of relief and get distracted by reality and the next big season. Is that cynical or just reality?
Totally cynical, the bulldozers will go back to building roads and dams, and volunteers will go home if they still have one. The reality is we will have an enquiry to find how we might have done better. This has devasted a large area and destroyed not only property but livelihoods. Regions which rely on tourism will have a season of little income. What might have been a bumper season will bring the reality of bankruptcy and PTSDQuote:
Originally Posted by talaniman
Thunberg is back sticking knives in Donald's back
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...davos/11888208
her brilliant response to climate policy, planting trees is not enough. problem is; people like her don't think any effort is enough, but if we plant trees and stop cutting down the ones we have, there will be abatement. What we don't want is complete shutdown of electricity generation. instead of saying something positive, what she contributed is negativity
In the United States, which contains 8 percent of the world's forests, there are more trees than there were 100 years ago
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