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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again, NK:

Careful, dude... You're talking about the right wing god creature, here.

excon

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Not quite . I agree with most of her philosophical views ;except perhaps her atheism.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Ok.

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Purely accidental was your point wasn't it? Which is more logical, from big bang to people or an intelligent author foreseeing the direction of things through her observations and life experience?

Whatever you want to believe and makes you happy, I'm OK with.

Hello again:

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Observe that by ascribing rights to the unborn, i.e. the nonliving, the anti-abortionists obliterate the rights of the living. - Ayn Rand

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Hmmm... Ayn Rand is PRO choice... Whoda thunk that?

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

Whatever you want to believe and makes you happy, I'm ok with.

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In other words, you don't much care for it when someone makes your point look silly.

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Originally Posted by speechlesstx

In other words, you don't much care for it when someone makes your point look silly.

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If you did but you didn't. You did your usual bit of putting words in my mouth. It's tiresome.
Everything needs to have some weird religious undertones with you, it's creepy.

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Originally Posted by NeedKarma

If you did but you didn't. You did your usual bit of putting words in my mouth. It's tiresome.
Everything needs to have some weird religious undertones with you, it's creepy.

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And I'm sure you think you're God's gift to AMHD. Oh look, an actual religious undertone as opposed to an imagined one.

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Originally Posted by excon

Hello again:



Hmmm... Ayn Rand is PRO choice... Whoda thunk that?

excon

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Warming up to her are you ? I would think her Objectivism would be right up your alley.. If only you would dump your socialistic tendencies.

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You did your usual bit of putting words in my mouth. It's tiresome.

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And I'm sure you think you're God's gift to AMHD.

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And there you go again.

Sorry dude, but correcting you is tiresome. You mean there I go finally.

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I would think her Objectivism would be right up your alley ..

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Hello tom:

I AM an objectivist.. I just approach it from the OPPOSITE side of the spectrum than YOU do. That's why you don't recognize me. Furthermore, I submit that you're no more an objectivist than I am... Oh, you TALK a good story about individual rights and smaller government, but when push comes to shove, you're OK with BIG government as long as it meets YOUR objectives... That's ANYTHING but Ayn Rand.

You believe that if it wasn't for those pesky anti Americans, and dope smokers, we COULD have an objectivist society.. And, just as soon as we wipe them out, we'll HAVE one, too.

I'm not so different... If it wasn't for those crony capitalists and moralizing religionists, we COULD have an objectivist society... As soon as we bring them in line, we'll HAVE one, too.

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You believe that if it wasn't for those pesky anti Americans, and dope smokers, we COULD have an objectivist society.. And, just as soon as we wipe them out, we'll HAVE one, too.

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Lol clearly you have not read a thing I've written about pot.

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you're OK with BIG government as long as it meets YOUR objectives...

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I'm for a government no bigger or smaller than what was the intent written into the Constitution. The government has been granted the power to secure the nation . Anything short of that is anarchy and the government would cease to exist ,which would do us no good as a nation.

But you want Plutocrats and elites to make laws and policy to govern the money, and the masses, and that was the original intent too!

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But you want Plutocrats and elites to make laws and policy to govern the money, and the masses

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Tal ,prove where I've ever written such a thing .You guys are real good at putting words in my mouth.

Let me make it clear;the problem with America isn't the monopoly the governments has on force ,or elites running the show;it is the collectivist culture of the voters .

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let me make it clear;the problem with America isn't the monopoly the governments has on force ,or elites running the show;it is the collectivist culture of the voters .

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Nope, the problem with America is that the politicians vote for their donors not for the people that elected them. Your corporations have taken over your government.

BS . I gave an example of the NRA on the other thred. There is nothing a special interest could do without the backing of the people. It is the people who have allowed this to become a Leviathan . It is the people who have allowed themselves to be bought with ever expanding entitlement .

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There is nothing a special interest could do without the backing of the people.

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Not at all. What corporate board needs to hear from the people before it "donates" millions to a candidate/senator/governor/congressman in return for a favorable vote?

You have written many times about unfettering big business by relieving them of cumbersome regulations, without being specific, so while they buy influence of elected leaders, they also write their own rules that favors them with no or little enforcement or consequence. Except to the many who suffer the actions of the few. Legally the can extract all the resources, and control the circulation that the economy needs to grow and function.

I mean you oppose fixing bridges and job creators paying for it. But you would cut the safety net to give them even more loot. That sounds to me like supporting the plutocarts and elites to me.

Peeing on my head and calling it rain is not going to work here. I mean why else would you refer to rich guys as job creators and then say the president is not doing his job by creating jobs? Make the job creators do their job! Or at least strip them of the title and call 'em greedy b@stards like they are.

You want them to have even more and NOT have to do their job, like the elites and plutocrats know better than any one what's best for the country. You support the Ryan plan and Romney, a plutocrat and an elitest. Take from the poor and give to the rich.

Your words and actions make my assertions TRUE, and those ARE your ideas even if you deny the words.

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It is the people who have allowed themselves to be bought with ever expanding entitlement .

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What does that mean in relations to what I wrote??